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post #61 of 391
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Originally Posted by BrettStah View Post

So, my brain is confused a bit about screen sizes and anamorphic lenses.

If I make a DIY screen in a 2.35:1 shape (or is that supposed to be 2.4:1?), AND the optional lens is attached to the 6010, then when I would play back a 2.35:1 movie, the entire screen would be filled. Then if I watched an HDTV 16:9 source, I would have pillar box columns. And some folks come up with ways of masking the sides of the screen with black velvet or other material. Is that right? Both the HDTV And widescreen movie would have the same screen height? Is that the CIH that I've seen mentioned around these parts?

Or, do you need to remove the optional lens to be able to correctly watch 16:9 material (and still deal with possiy masking the left and right sides of the screen)?

We are working on a set up now like this on a 6010, 235. There are a bunch of things to know so feel free to PM me. But basically 235 on the 6010 because of the brightness is great. There are several panamorphic kits avaiable but to go to 16:9 you need to remove the 235 lens to maintain constant height. Some kits are power some are manual. I stock the epson kit it is fully electric and runs off of triggers.
post #62 of 391
I thought l would update my problem with pink cast during b&W movies. I finally spoke to someone at Epson who was familiar with the problem. He said it was a faulty LCD paneland that there was nothing l could do to correct it, and lt had to be exchanged. BUT..THERE ARE NO 6010 PROJECTORS AVAILABLE!! THEY ARE WAITING FOR STOCK TO COME IN AND HE SUGGESTED L CALL BACK IN A WEEK! So much for quality control!
post #63 of 391
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Originally Posted by multicat View Post

I thought l would update my problem with pink cast during b&W movies. I finally spoke to someone at Epson who was familiar with the problem. He said it was a faulty LCD paneland that there was nothing l could do to correct it, and lt had to be exchanged. BUT..THERE ARE NO 6010 PROJECTORS AVAILABLE!! THEY ARE WAITING FOR STOCK TO COME IN AND HE SUGGESTED L CALL BACK IN A WEEK! So much for quality control!

Epson is famous for hit-or-miss quality control. All depends how tolerant the purchaser is. But Epson is one of the best companies for customer service. They have great warranties and and are usually very responsive when a problem arises (which, unfortunately, happens more than it should). The Pro Lines - such as the 6010 have even better warranties and, I believe, a 24 hour swap program (if the projectors are in stock).
post #64 of 391
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Originally Posted by ricwhite View Post


Epson is famous for hit-or-miss quality control. All depends how tolerant the purchaser is. But Epson is one of the best companies for customer service. They have great warranties and and are usually very responsive when a problem arises (which, unfortunately, happens more than it should). The Pro Lines - such as the 6010 have even better warranties and, I believe, a 24 hour swap program (if the projectors are in stock).

I agree from everything I read Epson warranty looks awesome
For me Its either the 6010 or 61000
I just don't know when we will see that model
But I definetly am going with a pro model
post #65 of 391
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Originally Posted by mrburrito View Post

I agree from everything I read Epson warranty looks awesome
For me Its either the 6010 or 61000
I just don't know when we will see that model
But I definetly am going with a pro model

The 61000 has HALF the LUMENS of the 6010
post #66 of 391
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

The 61000 has HALF the LUMENS of the 6010

But FIVE TIMES the contrast ratio.
post #67 of 391
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Originally Posted by ricwhite View Post

But FIVE TIMES the contrast ratio.

ENJOY the DARK picture
post #68 of 391
Does the Epson have a bold toggle in its service menu? Can it be set to off?

Twice as bright is a little over 40% brighter to ones eyes. The benefits to ones eyes of improving the on off by a factor of 5 depends on the on off one starts with under set up and operating conditions. If one can get say 40,000 or 50,000 to one under actual set up and operating conditions, A gamma of 2.5 should be able to be used without blackl crush and jumping it to 250,000 to one will make the blacks darker (bars and black screens) but won't appear to be drastically different to ones eyes and still will be shown up on a hanp puppet test.
post #69 of 391
IF i have a 2.35.1 screen does the 6010 allow me to vertically and horizontally stretch the picture to fit the whole screen?

If not then what does the two modes of anamorphic support allow me to do?
post #70 of 391
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Originally Posted by Htdude3420 View Post

IF i have a 2.35.1 screen does the 6010 allow me to vertically and horizontally stretch the picture to fit the whole screen?

If not then what does the two modes of anamorphic support allow me to do?

The 6010 has two anamorphic modes, one to stretch the picture horizontally and one to stretch the picture vertically when using an animorphic lens. You do not want to use these modes if you do not have an anamorphic lens, and if you don't have one you will have to use the zoom on your projector to fill up the screen.
post #71 of 391
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Originally Posted by studlygoorite View Post

The 6010 has two anamorphic modes, one to stretch the picture horizontally and one to stretch the picture vertically when using an animorphic lens. You do not want to use these modes if you do not have an anamorphic lens, and if you don't have one you will have to use the zoom on your projector to fill up the screen.


Thanks. I was confused because on the specs it says "enables 2.35:1 anamorphic viewing without an external processor" so I assumed it meant it can do it without a anamorphic lens. That sucks, I was hoping not to spend a bunch of extra cash on one
post #72 of 391
The key words it doesn't say are without an anamorphic lens to strech the image horizontally. The vertical stretch is electronic and that can be done in some Bluray players, many video processors, and in some but not all projectors. Thus with the 6010, there would be no need to do it externally in the Bluray player or with an external processor. The problem here is the cost difference between the 5010 and 6010 to get this function. I look at the included mount as being worth about $149, the ISF function as not really adding anything, the additional year of warranty say $300, so the stretch function costs you about $350. I would spend that plus a little more on a Bluray player that did it such as the Oppo or, if it were me on, on a processor such as the Lumagen Mini 3D which did that and a lot more and that could travel from one projector to another over the years. Of course the outlay of cash would be considerably higher but the processor would elevate the performance of Epson or any other projector considerably.
post #73 of 391
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 4 View Post

... the stretch function costs you about $350.

Mark, I was told the 6010 includes

1) mount
2) extra year warranty
3) spare bulb
4) "THX" mode
6) anamorphic support
7) 2 pairs of glasses

So it seems like a pretty good deal, IMHO. I'd think the bulb and the 2 glasses make up the $350. Of course, that's if it really comes with all that stuff. Perhaps some of that was just a dealer's package?

... Altan
post #74 of 391
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Originally Posted by MadMyers View Post

Mark, I was told the 6010 includes

1) mount
2) extra year warranty
3) spare bulb
4) "THX" mode
6) anamorphic support
7) 2 pairs of glasses



... Altan

And don't forget the black case.
post #75 of 391
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Originally Posted by MadMyers View Post

Mark, I was told the 6010 includes

1) mount
2) extra year warranty
3) spare bulb
4) "THX" mode
6) anamorphic support
7) 2 pairs of glasses

So it seems like a pretty good deal, IMHO. I'd think the bulb and the 2 glasses make up the $350. Of course, that's if it really comes with all that stuff. Perhaps some of that was just a dealer's package?

... Altan

Yes it does include all of those items from the factory
so the Anamorphic support and Isf ability basically are free.
post #76 of 391
What kind of pricing are you guys finding on this projector? and where is best place to buy from?
post #77 of 391
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Originally Posted by dasoccerbomb View Post

What kind of pricing are you guys finding on this projector? and where is best place to buy from?

My understanding is 6010s can only be sold by brick and mortar store not over internet but 5010 can be sold over internet. If interested in 5010 call one of the AvsForum salespeople for a quote.
post #78 of 391
I'm looking at possibly getting an Epson 6010. Has anyone had any experience using the Epson with a Onkyo TX-NR709 or 809 receiver and an Oppo BDP-93 BR player? I'm just wondering how that combination of components works together and whether there are any issues or problems - especially on the 3D end. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.
post #79 of 391
Well it's been fun reading the thread this morning.

I'm wondering if anyone else is running an HTPC with PDVD?

I have upadated all my video drivers - Radeon 4350 and the newest cyberlink build but I'm getting a fail for the EPSON PJ in cyberlink advisor.

No problems running Blu Ray, I also have a HR24 and the 3D is WOW!!!

For some reason I can't get the software to recogognize that the Proj is 3D.

Any suggestions?

Love the unit, I was an Optoma Guy until I saw this unit in Indy at CEDIA and was blown away with the Yogi Bear 3D demo.

If anyone can help that would be great. TYIA!
post #80 of 391
My 3D capable Samsung BD player would not recognize that the 6010 projector was 3D capable but that was fixed after I downloaded a firmware update from Samsung's web site for the BD player.
post #81 of 391
I have updated the software and the video card firmware.

Is anyone running an HTPC with the 6010 using 3D?
post #82 of 391
I use a HTPC for 3d through an intel second gen i5 using its inboard 3d capabilities with no problems. I have the tw9000w
post #83 of 391
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Originally Posted by psgolfer View Post

I have updated the software and the video card firmware.

Is anyone running an HTPC with the 6010 using 3D?

I have no problem with htpc/5010 in 3D.

-Window 7/64b.
-Ati5770 video card
-hdmi 1.4 (don't forget to use newer hdmi 1.4 cable)
-PowerDvd 11
-Anydvd

I do notice sometimes 3d don't work until you click the "3D" icon to enable it in PowerDVD. This 3d icon is to the right of the "play" icon at bottom of screen.

I don't remember having to click the 2D/3D button on the Epson projector.

Good luck.
post #84 of 391
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Originally Posted by curiousmurf View Post

I have no problem with htpc/5010 in 3D.

-Window 7/64b.
-Ati5770 video card
-hdmi 1.4 (don't forget to use newer hdmi 1.4 cable)
-PowerDvd 11
-Anydvd

I do notice sometimes 3d don't work until you click the "3D" icon to enable it in PowerDVD. This 3d icon is to the right of the "play" icon at bottom of screen.

I don't remember having to click the 2D/3D button on the Epson projector.

Good luck.

Thanks for the reply.

I'm running:

Windows XP
Radeon 4350 video card
Powerdvd 11 Ultra
Anydvd HD

If you run the cyberlink advisor for 3D, I get a red error for the 3d projector. Says: EPSON PJ (all red)

When I play my movies (no problem with blu ray), but with 3D, I don't even get the icon, just an error message that says my display is not compatible.

I just got a PS3 today and my next plan is to try and stream my backed up ISO's to the PS3.
post #85 of 391
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Originally Posted by ricwhite View Post

I'm looking at possibly getting an Epson 6010. Has anyone had any experience using the Epson with a Onkyo TX-NR709 or 809 receiver and an Oppo BDP-93 BR player? I'm just wondering how that combination of components works together and whether there are any issues or problems - especially on the 3D end. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.

There is a thread in the under $3000 area that has a little more activity, epson 5010/6010, that someone there might have some thoughts.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1377321

Researching the those projectors myself I don't recall coming across any handshake or 3D issues mentioned with the Oppo's and the new Epsons. Right now I'm just feeding my 6010 with a Panasonic BluRay until I get my new Panasonic 3D bluray hooked up.
post #86 of 391
Has anyone had there 6010 ISF calibrated? Looking to get some setting to optimize my projector, maybe a best night and best day mode?
post #87 of 391
I thinking about buying one of these, but the "ghosting" photos give me pause. What are the 6010 owner's seeing with respect to ghosting. I'm going to demo a unit late next week -- what should I expect?

See post #1028.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...382091&page=35
post #88 of 391
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Originally Posted by Deja Vu View Post

I thinking about buying one of these, but the "ghosting" photos give me pause. What are the 6010 owner's seeing with respect to ghosting. I'm going to demo a unit late next week -- what should I expect?

See post #1028.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...382091&page=35

I have the 6010, I own 7 3d movies and I have only noticed ghosting on one of the movies and it was only once during the movie for a few seconds , so pretty well ghost free for me so far but I take some select movies will show it
post #89 of 391
Does AVS sell the 6010?
post #90 of 391
No. The 6______ series stuff is not allowed by Epson to be sold over the internet or outside a dealer's territory. Reportedly, if Epson catches a dealer doing this they would lose the ability to sell any Epson series. AV Science does not sell the 6____ seies. We sell the 5____ series.
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