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post #31 of 187
T&A quotient for the second episode: zero. But that's Showtime.

The ridiculous encounter with the ex (Bangin' sex on a public restroom countertop? Seriously?) was soooo lame. The equally ridiculous encounter with Cat Deeley was so awkward I had to look away. The resolution to the "crisis" was predictably cliché and illustrates the only guy besides Marty who really has any value to the team is Doug. Can't figure out what the other two actually do (well, besides looking gorgeous in Bell's case). Nobody loves seeing the rich & foolish get what's comin' to 'em more than me, but I'm not buying any of this and it's not funny.

Cheedle and Bell deserve better. But I can see the synergy with 'Californication' on Showtime's schedule, so it will probably meet expectations and stick around. Don't think I will though.
post #32 of 187
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

T&A quotient for the second episode: zero. But that's Showtime.

The ridiculous encounter with the ex (Bangin' sex on a public restroom countertop? Seriously?) was soooo lame.

Yup, I agree. It just wastes time that they don't seem to use wisely otherwise.
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The equally ridiculous encounter with Cat Deeley was so awkward I had to look away.

That's when I stopped watching and deleted my season pass on my Tivo. Done. They must have paid Cheadle a lot of money.

larry
post #33 of 187
I need to find the music from this show.
post #34 of 187
I was middling on the premiere, but this 2nd episode really was pretty bad. Cheadle and Bell are usually so good, but this is not well done. The scenes of them walking in a line together always come off as staged and the actors tossing lines to each other on queue. The 'stepping out of the action' scenes are also pointless after a while. Sorry about this one, I was hoping for so much more.
post #35 of 187
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Yup, I agree. It just wastes time that they don't seem to use wisely otherwise.
That's when I stopped watching and deleted my season pass on my Tivo. Done. They must have paid Cheadle a lot of money.

larry

I'm done also. Going to cancel showtime until Nurse Jackie comes back.
post #36 of 187
Just watched the 2nd episode this morning and it was terrible. Big step down from the premier. They need to pick it up again soon or I'm out.
post #37 of 187
I thought the second episode was much better than the first. The first episode had no laugh out loud moments for me while the second had two or three.
post #38 of 187
Too little Kristen Bell IMO...

Like she's going on a date, great, there will be action!.. NO, not happenning....

There was way more action with that guy and Cat.. LOL
post #39 of 187
Just saw the third episode. Because of the talent involved, I really want to give it a chance. All I can say is "wow".

As in, this show is profoundly, spectacularly bad. I honestly feel sorry for Kristen Bell and Don Cheadle, two of our brightest acting talents, which is kind of stupid considering they're grown-ups who read these scripts and made a conscious decision to get involved with this project. They don't need my sympathy. Nonetheless, I have to ask, what were they thinking?

I see Claire Danes in 'Homeland' and wonder why Bell isn't getting those kinds of roles...? She does voiceover work for CW tripe and guest stars on 'Heroes' in a throwaway role and can't seem to get a feature films career off the ground. Yet, 'Veronica Mars' and a stunning guest-starring role on 'Deadwood' show she has rare and impressive acting chops, not to mention the fact that she's drop-dead gorgeous. She really doesn't have to settle for this, one presumes, yet here she is - slumming in an embarrassing role on a forgettable show.

And don't get me started on Cheadle. He knows better. There's not a single character on this show I care about. Wow, indeed.
post #40 of 187
Wow, lots of critics. I haven't seen ep 3 yet, but enjoyed the first 2. It's light and cynical. I might bow out later, but I still catch up with Californication after it airs for many of the same reasons...a few laughs and the dark humor.
post #41 of 187
I think this week's episode gave a glimpse into the darker side of Cheadle's character. There's room for some good stuff if it goes that direction. But I agree that there aren't really any characters to like here.
post #42 of 187
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I think this week's episode gave a glimpse into the darker side of Cheadle's character. There's room for some good stuff if it goes that direction. But I agree that there aren't really any characters to like here.

No kidding...
post #43 of 187
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Just saw the third episode. Because of the talent involved, I really want to give it a chance. All I can say is "wow".

As in, this show is profoundly, spectacularly bad. I honestly feel sorry for Kristen Bell and Don Cheadle, two of our brightest acting talents, which is kind of stupid considering they're grown-ups who read these scripts and made a conscious decision to get involved with this project. They don't need my sympathy. Nonetheless, I have to ask, what were they thinking?

I see Claire Danes in 'Homeland' and wonder why Bell isn't getting those kinds of roles...? She does voiceover work for CW tripe and guest stars on 'Heroes' in a throwaway role and can't seem to get a feature films career off the ground. Yet, 'Veronica Mars' and a stunning guest-starring role on 'Deadwood' show she has rare and impressive acting chops, not to mention the fact that she's drop-dead gorgeous. She really doesn't have to settle for this, one presumes, yet here she is - slumming in an embarrassing role on a forgettable show.

And don't get me started on Cheadle. He knows better. There's not a single character on this show I care about. Wow, indeed.

Perhaps, but next week she's in her undies!
post #44 of 187
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Perhaps, but next week she's in her undies!

What was that? Kristen Bell in her undies you say? Who cares if the show is any good or not.
post #45 of 187
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Perhaps, but next week she's in her undies!

Yep, the trajectory is clear. Gratuitous nudity is clearly the next step. Pretty soon you're cleaning toilets with Lindsey Lohan and telling everybody you just killed it in Scream 4.
post #46 of 187
For me, it continues downhill. This 3rd episode really pushed me to the edge of not even watching it at all anymore, except it leads in to Californication and has no other competition right now. Cheadle and Bell are being wasted, especially Bell - though I do look forward to the 'undies dance' next week. They have continued to vastly overplay the 'step out of scene' moments to the point of stopping the show in its tracks. That whole scene with Cheadle drawing circles around the characters to explain the plot...yuck. And worst of all, for a comedy with some added sex, it's boring. That's the death knell.
post #47 of 187
Have to agree with everyone here. There's nothing going on in this series. It's hard to accept that everyone on both sides would be in this fantasy trash talk mode 24/7. As to skewering the big 1% in some manner, perhaps they will, but I doubt any of us will care by the time they do it. I'd rather listed to NFL player interviews than this BS.
post #48 of 187
I tried again, and got half-way thru the 2nd episode.
Same thing....no characters to care about or have empathy for.
All the major characters are scumbags, to some extent.
This show is a cynical (although fairly accurate) representation of all that is wrong with American capitalism.
I get enough of it from REAL LIFE....thank you very much.
post #49 of 187
I'm enjoying the show right now. However, I don't know how they can keep it fresh unless they start focusing more on the characters lives, and less on the "consulting" side of things. It's only a half hour, so I'll give it a full season. It's kind of a dead spot for Sunday programming right now, so I'm not missing anything else by watching this.

Art
post #50 of 187
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I'm enjoying the show right now. However, I don't know how they can keep it fresh unless they start focusing more on the characters lives, and less on the "consulting" side of things. It's only a half hour, so I'll give it a full season. It's kind of a dead spot for Sunday programming right now, so I'm not missing anything else by watching this.

Art

My feeling is just the opposite. I think what the show needs is a greater emphasis on the consulting business. Show 'em sticking it to the Man - that's what the show is supposed to be about, after all - but make the plotlines a little more creative and inventive. I mean, who didn't see how Marty was going to resolve his dilemma from a mile away this week, or last? Maybe they need to hire either different marketing consultants to mine for better plot ideas, or simply better writers.

As for concentrating even more on the characters' lives, that would be a mistake, IMO. They've made them all so thoroughly unlikable that I really don't want to spend more time with them or watch more of their little one-upsmanship, belittling games they feel compelled to constantly play. I even find myself hating the kid, and he's telegenic, a gamer, and a pretty good little thespian. Even he deserves better.

I'm close to bowing out anyway, so it's probably moot. They ain't changing the show to suit me, that's for sure.
post #51 of 187
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

My feeling is just the opposite. I think what the show needs is a greater emphasis on the consulting business. Show 'em sticking it to the Man - that's what the show is supposed to be about, after all - but make the plotlines a little more creative and inventive. I mean, who didn't see how Marty was going to resolve his dilemma from a mile away this week, or last? Maybe they need to hire either different marketing consultants to mine for better plot ideas, or simply better writers.

As for concentrating even more on the characters' lives, that would be a mistake, IMO. They've made them all so thoroughly unlikable that I really don't want to spend more time with them or watch more of their little one-upsmanship, belittling games they feel compelled to constantly play. I even find myself hating the kid, and he's telegenic, a gamer, and a pretty good little thespian. Even he deserves better.

I'm close to bowing out anyway, so it's probably moot. They ain't changing the show to suit me, that's for sure.

Valid points, but how many different ways can they "stick it to the Man" without becoming completely repetitive? All successful shows are more about the characters, not their professions, etc. Marty has some deep seated reasons for being the way he is, and it seems they are delving a little more into that every episode.

I'm enjoying the show now because it is different, and it makes me laugh. Of course, that is subject to change.

Art
post #52 of 187
Watched episode 3 last night. I actually thought it was better then the 2nd one, but that's not saying a whole lot.

It's just not funny.
post #53 of 187
Bit sad that the only naked part of Bell we have seen is her foot.. LOL, can't wait for next week.. that's the most she's gonna show according to TMZ.. no nudity clause sucks..
post #54 of 187
Just saw ep 3. Great stuff, pretty hilarious. Gotta watch 4 soon.
post #55 of 187
Thread Starter 
Kirsten Bell dancing in her undies while she was stoned (or about to smoke) was hot

Good episode last night.
post #56 of 187
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Kirsten Bell dancing in her undies while she was stoned (or about to smoke) was hot

Pics or it didn't happen.
post #57 of 187
Thread Starter 
haha.

I've never done a professional screen capture before. My version, is a digital camera shot of my TV screen

I can search google for a screen cap, but it might be off-limits for avsforum.

Edit: I just searched google, Kristen Bell House of Lies. There's many screen caps!
I'm at work, so I don't want to do it.
post #58 of 187
OK, here ya go....

post #59 of 187
So the ratings took a significant jump this week...wonder why??
post #60 of 187
Just saw on Showtime's Twitter feed that 2nd season starts production in LA later this year so it has been picked up.
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