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post #31 of 137
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Originally Posted by vandevantersh1 View Post

Enough with the 0s and 1s :>) How does the BDP sound with you system??

Steve

I just ordered the BDP-1 late Friday, so the order went in yesterday. Bryston is scheduled to drop ship mine about Dec. 6th!

So please continue discussing 0s and 1s!
post #32 of 137
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Damn, so now I have to reconvert and retag the 10,000 Wav files I converted to Flac using Media Monkey! I better check if I am hearing the same differences. First will be a wav / flac comparison (which I never did).

edorr, I think my particular conversion was a bad one. The difference was so pronounced that when I put the WAV drive back in the system it was like a $50K upgrade in gear. If you haven't noticed a severe degrading of your SQ, I'm sure your conversion is OK. This, in my case, was not subtle. Norm
post #33 of 137
I have since done a new conversion FLAC drive using dB Poweramp, and it sounds very good. Norm
post #34 of 137
Are you going to rip your Cd's at 44.1/16 or use a higher Rez? Maybe 88.2/24 or 96/24.

Does dbpower amp allow to rip at higher rez? If not what software does?

post #35 of 137
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edorr, I think my particular conversion was a bad one. The difference was so pronounced that when I put the WAV drive back in the system it was like a $50K upgrade in gear. If you haven't noticed a severe degrading of your SQ, I'm sure your conversion is OK. This, in my case, was not subtle. Norm

I put some Flac and Wav files of the same audio tracks into the same playlist, allowing me to switch with a few seconds delay, and noticed no discernable difference in sound quality. Your conversion must indeed have gone awry.
post #36 of 137
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I put some Flac and Wav files of the same audio tracks into the same playlist, allowing me to switch with a few seconds delay, and noticed no discernable difference in sound quality. Your conversion must indeed have gone awry.

I figured this would be your result. YEA!

Hey, are there any PC CD changers/burners in which you can load a few hundred CDs and just let them rip using dB Poweramp. That would sure make CD ripping easier!
post #37 of 137
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I figured this would be your result. YEA!

Hey, are there any PC CD changers/burners in which you can load a few hundred CDs and just let them rip using dB Poweramp. That would sure make CD ripping easier!

Find a local college kid / high schooler and pay him $10/hour. I estimate you can do 20 CDs an hour so that is 50c / CD - not too bad. He can also lookup cover art while ripping.
post #38 of 137
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Originally Posted by Steve Bruzonsky View Post

I figured this would be your result. YEA!

Hey, are there any PC CD changers/burners in which you can load a few hundred CDs and just let them rip using dB Poweramp. That would sure make CD ripping easier!

I think it comes down to just "sucking it up" and doing it. The optical drive in my MacBook Pro was too slow, so I bought an external drive that reads >40x. Made a big difference. So I just rip while I'm doing other things on the computer, or reading, etc.

Steve
post #39 of 137
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Originally Posted by Steve Bruzonsky View Post

I figured this would be your result. YEA!

Hey, are there any PC CD changers/burners in which you can load a few hundred CDs and just let them rip using dB Poweramp. That would sure make CD ripping easier!

Steve, buck up. We have 27,000 files, all done on our HP Win Media or Shuttle PC. Once you get this done, you'll wonder why you would ever get a silver disc out. You'll dig it. Norm
post #40 of 137
Anyone compare the BDP-1 to Oppo 95 USB?
post #41 of 137
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Originally Posted by tyree91 View Post

Steve, buck up. We have 27,000 files, all done on our HP Win Media or Shuttle PC. Once you get this done, you'll wonder why you would ever get a silver disc out. You'll dig it. Norm

I am bucking up. My laptop internal drive is 24 X. However, I have an "extra" Buffalo external drive 40 X that I just hooked up. Its is a lot faster.
HA!
post #42 of 137
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I am bucking up. My laptop internal drive is 24 X. However, I have an "extra" Buffalo external drive 40 X that I just hooked up. Its is a lot faster.
HA!

Football, Skiing, NASCAR, or Ripping, it's all about speed.
post #43 of 137
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Originally Posted by tyree91 View Post

Football, Skiing, NASCAR, or Ripping, it's all about speed.

Except for sex of course!@@@
post #44 of 137
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Originally Posted by Steve Bruzonsky View Post

Except for sex of course!@@@

Going Tantric???
post #45 of 137
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Originally Posted by Steve Bruzonsky View Post

I am bucking up. My laptop internal drive is 24 X. However, I have an "extra" Buffalo external drive 40 X that I just hooked up. Its is a lot faster.
HA!

Well worth the effort Steve. Get yourself something to backup your efforts/files. I use a solid state drive in a small enclosure with and powered by the BDP-1. Works great but I haven't had the best of luck with SSDs; burned up 3 in the past year. Apparently, Intel SSDs are quite reliable so I'm going to try those next.

Now if I could just find a good way (or high school kid) to get my 1,000 plus LPs to FLAC I'd be all set.
post #46 of 137
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Now if I could just find a good way (or high school kid) to get my 1,000 plus LPs to FLAC I'd be all set.

There are a few companies that will do it but they charge A LOT. Better get the high school kid.
post #47 of 137
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To my knowledge, the Korg lets you record in DSD, most common application would be archiving records. It will not rip SACD. The only way to do this is on a playstation 3, with old firmware. See this link.

You then need a separate program to convert DSD to WAV or Flac.

http://code.google.com/p/sacd-ripper/


The above website program lets you rip the DSD files from the SACD disc to your PC or external drive in DSD format, using a Playstation 3 with firmware 3.55 or below, right? What other program would I use to convert the DSD file to the highest resolution FLAC file?
post #48 of 137
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Originally Posted by Steve Bruzonsky View Post

The above website program lets you rip the DSD files from the SACD disc to your PC or external drive in DSD format, using a Playstation 3 with firmware 3.55 or below, right? What other program would I use to convert the DSD file to the highest resolution FLAC file?

Converting the DSD files to high rez PCM should be the easy part. Ripping the SACD is the issue. You need not only the right firmware, but also the right PS3 version. I was toying with the idea of doing this myself, even looked on ebay for the right hardware (can be bought for around $200), but then reading these instructions (http://code.google.com/p/sacd-ripper...e/trunk/readme) scared the hell out of me and I decided to pass. This is not for the faint of heart in my estimation.
post #49 of 137
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Originally Posted by edorr View Post

Converting the DSD files to high rez PCM should be the easy part. Ripping the SACD is the issue. You need not only the right firmware, but also the right PS3 version. I was toying with the idea of doing this myself, even looked on ebay for the right hardware (can be bought for around $200), but then reading these instructions (http://code.google.com/p/sacd-ripper...e/trunk/readme) scared the hell out of me and I decided to pass. This is not for the faint of heart in my estimation.

I am waiting to see if Oppo releases a player that converts SACD at 24/176 at CES. Some players already do it. Shawn Fogg's board will work at 24/192 and in those players now,Yamaha Aventage BD-A1000,. Then just get this, http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_u...ophile192.html in your PC. You get the added benefit that you can just play SACD in the player and use your high-end dac. It's a bit easier and more practical. Steve already owns an older Oppo but it would be limited to SACD conversion at 24/88 http://www.jvbdigital.nl/jvb.asp?cur...itle&title=777 , if he does not want to risk the Compli.
post #50 of 137
I see that Yamaha has new players. One for only 329.00. It looks to have the same capabilities. Oppo is certain to follow.
post #51 of 137
Another online BDP-1 review:

http://www.soundstagehifi.com/index....article&id=339

The bottom line:

"The BDP-1’s purpose wasn’t clear to me before it arrived, but it’s very clear now: the high-quality transfer of music data from an attached USB drive. That’s all it does, but it does it startlingly well and very easily."

One error, the reviewer says the BDP-1 doesn't operate wireless, it does. A WiFi router can be connected to the ether net port for wireless control. Example:

trendnet tew-654tr

Steve



TRENDnet TEW-654TR
post #52 of 137
Steve, the thread on ripping SACDs has converged to a very nice place on WBF so if you still have interest there, check the post from Bill near the bottom: http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showth...ight-way/page6
post #53 of 137
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Steve, the thread on ripping SACDs has converged to a very nice place on WBF so if you still have interest there, check the post from Bill near the bottom: http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showth...ight-way/page6

Thanks. Great info.
post #54 of 137
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Steve, the thread on ripping SACDs has converged to a very nice place on WBF so if you still have interest there, check the post from Bill near the bottom: http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showth...ight-way/page6

The post at the end is about the DSD to PCM conversion, which as I mentioned is the easy part. If you go back to the beginning of this thread you will read about the SACD ripping process itself. While it can certainly be done, it has hours of frustrating messing with hardware and software configurations / setting written all over it ....
post #55 of 137
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Originally Posted by amirm View Post

Steve, the thread on ripping SACDs has converged to a very nice place on WBF so if you still have interest there, check the post from Bill near the bottom: http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showth...ight-way/page6

Downloaded Audiogate but the activation process for non-Korg owners seems very invasive. It appears that they want nearly total access to Twitter account. Is this a problem?

Steve
post #56 of 137
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Originally Posted by vandevantersh1 View Post

Downloaded Audiogate but the activation process for non-Korg owners seems very invasive. It appears that they want nearly total access to Twitter account. Is this a problem?

Steve

I am just a messenger Steve . Please ask the people in that thread. My library of SACDs is collecting dust so I have no personal experience to share .

That said, you can just create a random new twitter account and let it have it (i.e. not your personal one). I wrote an app that uses twitter for messages (http://tvwbb.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/...03/m/784107513) and created a phony twitter account for it. My program then logs the temps from my smoker to it. Imagine my surprise when a couple of people started to follow it!
post #57 of 137
Thanks for the advice...The "throw away" account sounds like a good idea.

Steve
post #58 of 137
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During the past week, I have somehow managed to use dBPoweramp to rip many hundreds of redbook and HDCDs, and also the redbook track of SACDs, to my laptop hard hard drive, which I will shortly be copying to a Seagate GoFlex 1TB USB drive, and also backing up (2nd copy) to a Seagate GoFlex 2TB network drive.

Still have some DVD-Audio discs to rip using another PC program.

Still need to determine if I want to rip SACDs - probably not, for as Edorr points out, seems like lotsa lotsa work and a difficult process that I don't have time or inclination to do. I can still play the SACD tracks via my Theta Compli Blu. Though I anticipate what Tyree (Norm) will tell me, in his experience, that the ripped redbook sounds as good or better than SACD via a player, so why bother?
post #59 of 137
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Originally Posted by Steve Bruzonsky View Post

During the past week, I have somehow managed to use dBPoweramp to rip many hundreds of redbook and HDCDs, and also the redbook track of SACDs, to my laptop hard hard drive, which I will shortly be copying to a Seagate GoFlex 1TB USB drive, and also backing up (2nd copy) to a Seagate GoFlex 2TB network drive.

Still have some DVD-Audio discs to rip using another PC program.

Still need to determine if I want to rip SACDs - probably not, for as Edorr points out, seems like lotsa lotsa work and a difficult process that I don't have time or inclination to do. I can still play the SACD tracks via my Theta Compli Blu. Though I anticipate what Tyree (Norm) will tell me, in his experience, that the ripped redbook sounds as good or better than SACD via a player, so why bother?

I am hoping some of the stuff I own on 2 channel SACD will eventually be released as 96/24 flacs on HDTracks.com (e.g. the Patricia Barber catalogue), in which case I'll just rebuy them.

So far, all the SACD's that have been released as high rez HDTracks are multi channel SACD's (e.g. Chesky has released quite a few). In this case I stick with the SACD, because I always prefer a good native multi channel mix over 2 channel 96/24.
post #60 of 137
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My BDP-1 arrived this morning. WOW! My dealer had been told it was scheduled to ship from Bryston on Dec 6th. An early Hanukkah present!!!@@@

I've ripped my entire CD collection and CD tracks from redbook CDs already! About 600 CDs ripped! Got a Seagate GoFlex 1TB USB drive which will connect to the BDP-1. Got a Seagate GoFlex 2TB network drive, on which I will back up not only all of the ripped music (FLAC), but also photos and VHS and HD videos that I already have on a 1TB Western Digital USB drive.

This is tantalating!!!@@@
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