Cheaper alternative to Optoma 3DXL for HD66 and other DLP projectors - Page 4

Originally Posted by canuck

Exactly, CHOICE is key. I have no need for the more expensive 3d-XL because I really have no intention of buying a 3D blueray player. Which is clearly the intended usage in this setup. I really can't see me watching much 3D material at all.

What I want is something that will breathe new life into a handfull of animated 2D titles that my kids watch via DVD or the odd HD mkv file that I play directly from my wdtv. For this purpose, the monoprice unit is clearly the better option because of feature set ( 2d to 3d conversion, conversion of various 3D formats to one playable on the hd66) and price (wife factor, cheapo index) .

Originally Posted by lewis3845


This does not work because I cannot select 3d at all in the menu I think my hd66 must get the 120hz signal first so they crippled these projectors with the latest firware only to work with their box because that's what optoma tech told me 120hz first then 3d menu is selectable.

Originally Posted by perfectdark

Don't listen to all these people

I have the 3D-XL and HD66 and I'm using the WDTV Live with Half SBS MKV's 720p and they look great on my 110" screen[/QUOTE/]

I was referring to the monoprice conversion of 2D to 3D sbs output. There is some stair stepping in resolution...too many artifacts for my liking but I am picky. 720p on Directv sbs looks fine via my VIP theatre. Still not as sharp as bluray frame packed. The monoprice converter may look better with a direct connection to the projector. I just didn't have dlp link glasses to try it and I didn't need it to convert sbs to 3D. The theatre unit does that.

Originally Posted by perfectdark

Don't listen to all these people

I have the 3D-XL and HD66 and I'm using the WDTV Live with Half SBS MKV's 720p and they look great on my 110" screen

Originally Posted by perfectdark

And yes the HD66 needs a 120hz input before you can turn on the 3D option

Originally Posted by Rodney538

Hopefully this will help everyone out:

I received my Optoma HD-66 yesterday (it is used so I don't know exactly how old it is). I attached to to my cheap Dell laptop using the VGA port. Initially the laptop was setup to display 1280 x 800. My HD-66 would not allow me to activate the 3D since it was greyed out. I went into the display settings on the laptop and noticed that it was 60hz. There wasn't an option for 120hz. I then changed the laptop resolution to 1280 x 720. At this resolution it allowed me to changed the frequency to 120hz. I then went into my projector settings and sure enough the 3D menu was now active. I noticed that 2 other laptop resolutions allowed me to select 120hz. They are 1024 x 768 and 800 x 600. I couldn't actually test the 3D though since I don't have the 3d creator box. I am guessing that the 3D wouldn't work though since based on all of the research that I have been doing, that box only outputs 60hz to the projector. There is a similiar box to the 3D creator here on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3D-Converter...item3cc0b26b99

It shows that it outputs 60hz in the specs and in the FAQ's (question 8), it says that it does not support 120hz projectors. Also, 3dtvcorp sells the same box: http://www.ebay.com/itm/150707399639...84.m1438.l2649 (make sure you read the excellent description). I have the complete specs of this box in an email attachment and it shows 60hz output. I am not sure how the OP got it to work along with a few others (maybe they had older HD-66 firmware)

Then I tried this: I hooked up my 10 year old DVD player to the projector. I played an older 3D DVD called 'Encounters in the 3rd Dimension' DVD (not Bluray). The output of the DVD player was initially set to 16:9 Progressive. The 3D menu on the HD-66 was greyed out. I changed the output of the DVD player to Interlaced and then the 3D menu on the HD-66 became active. I selected DLP-Link and watched the movie in 3D with my DLP link glasses. At first I was shocked that the Projector could play 60Hz Interlaced but then I remembered that this projector supports, '60Hz Field Sequential 3D for Resolutions Up to 480i'.

I was thinking about buying the 3D creator box but based on my testing and knowledge, I don't think that it will work with this projector. My choices are to either buy a new projector (HD-65?) or the 3D-XL. I decided to buy the 3DXL since I will be able to play 3D Blurays besides SBS and it supports Over/Under which Time Warner Cable displays its 3D in.

I am thinking about buying a 3D Panasonic BDT110 Bluray Player or a WD TV Live. I have read that they can play 720p HALF SBS Mkv files but may have problems playing 720p FULL and possibly 1080p FULL/HALF. I am not sure if the file size also affects playback. Can anyone tell me if either of these boxes can play these without a problem? Currently I can play all of them without stuttering on my laptop but not in 3D yet. Also, what software can easily convert 1080p 'FULL' SBS to HALF SBS or even 720p?

Thanks.

Originally Posted by mkoss

the 3D creator will output dlp Link 120 Hz under 2 conditions. Viewing sbs half 3D and 2D to 3D. I use it this way with my acer H5360. It DOES NOT output 60HZ in dlp mode.

Originally Posted by whythis

You just hook up your wdtv live to your 3d-xl and the 3d settings will come up on the hd66? I want to play sbs mkv tried switching the output the mp4 to play on the ps3 by flash drive the sbs 3d will not work because it is not 120hz. So if I put the movie on the wd tv live it will sense 120hz? I have the viewsonic converter box (vp3d1) basically the same I was just wondering thanks.

Originally Posted by lewis3845

I just got my 3d-xl and it works great with my hd66. The 3d menu is available and I'm using the monoprice to send sbs to the 3d-xl with no problems I have the optoma glasses and my cinema eagle 501 or 502 I can't remember,but the 3d is grteat and I actually prefer the $40 eagle cinema glasses over the big bulky ugly optoma's.

Originally Posted by lewis3845

So optoma has stopped the ability of other 3d converters in newer firmware. You must buy the 3d-xl if you have a newer hd66 with the newer firmware if you want 3d.

Originally Posted by paperchaser

optoma glasses are pretty horrible LoLz!

are you using the 2d - 3d conversion to get your signal?
any quick sources for SBS content to test out??

Originally Posted by paperchaser

oh, ok.... I think im going to return my 3d bluray to recover sum of the cash spent. Ive got The PS3 that will also play AVI files....so I should be good.

Optima glasses=comical....and reserved for that "special houseguest" LoL!!

quick question before I head back downstairs...am I missing sumthing or does the 3dxl not have a pass thru mode?

Originally Posted by Kingcarcas

Well that's a relief, i had pretty much abandoned the idea of 3D with my H5360.

So glasses, monoprice, ps3 and i'm set?

Originally Posted by canuck

So, I'm still left wondering if I can get by attaching the monoprice directly to my hd66.

My firmware allows me to toggle the 3D settings without any converter attached. It allows me to do this with my wdtv as the active input over HDMI at 50 or 60hz.

Originally Posted by lewis3845

So optoma has stopped the ability of other 3d converters in newer firmware. You must buy the 3d-xl if you have a newer hd66 with the newer firmware if you want 3d.

Originally Posted by canuck

So if my unit lets me toggle the 3D menus all the time, I'm wondering if I can use one of the cheaper Chinese units that output 60hz?

Originally Posted by canuck

So if my unit lets me toggle the 3D menus all the time, I'm wondering if I can use one of the cheaper Chinese units that output 60hz?

Originally Posted by canuck

So if my unit lets me toggle the 3D menus all the time, I'm wondering if I can use one of the cheaper Chinese units that output 60hz?