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post #1471 of 1518
9/20/12 at 5:31pm
His latest 35 ftL movie setting from April.
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post #1472 of 1518
9/21/12 at 4:03pm
Here are the ones that are working best for me....it's a copy / paste from an earlier post of mine...


I found these settings on another site and seem to work the best for me....I input them with USER setting, but the author suggests STANDARD....anyways, hockey looked really good with this setting, as well as regular sitcoms etc....I have to say that this tv might haver the WORST factory settings ever...lol...anyways, give it a try and let me know if it improves anything for anyone...especially the hockey fans!....................................................... ................




Before Calibration - The TV LOOKED AWFUL!!!!! skin tones were way off and so on .

Settings Starting from top to bottom top written here Left to Right or Red first
wich for Hue would be +6 and work your way down

TINT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO LEAVE AT 0
HuE +6 0 -16 0 0 0 Skin tone fix
Saturation 0 -18 -4 -30 -13 -30 Rgb ballance
Value +10 0 -7 0 +20 0 Color Depth and Accuracy.
Each one of these changes affect 2 colors at a time thats why its hard to get them just right.Value affects
how strong Hue looks and so on .Saturation also affects how strong you set tint and Value .This is the closest
you will get without paying best buy 200bucks for calibration and you might not even notice any difference.

Color temp
You can use Med or Low Med user preference but set
0 0 0 +8 0 -10

Gama -1 / 0 looks better on shows like Icarly bc theres no shadow detail. Infact use 0 on those bright shows.
Backlight +2(turning backup up to high makes cablebox look to noisy) you need really high end HD to turn up to 16
Contrast 31 (32 makes faces wash out on sunlight eventhough calibration paterns say 32 is fine but its not)
Color +7 or your preference
brightness +1
sharpness +2
All you guys know to turn smooth motion off ,
noise reduction off, BUT you can set noise
reduction to low on your cable box or BluRays that have noticible noise. You can use Dynamic contrast as you wish bc it does help nexflix shows like 30rock wich tend to be on the greyish side .
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post #1473 of 1518
9/24/12 at 2:14am
Thanks!

Really appreciate it.

By the way, does anyone know if the settings, between view options, can essentially be set the same for the same result?

That is, if I adjusted DYNAMIC and GAME to the exact same settings, would I get the exact same PQ between the two?

Just wondering...

--Tom
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post #1474 of 1518
9/25/12 at 1:09am
No you would not, each preset is different.

Jason
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post #1475 of 1518
9/25/12 at 1:55am
It is interesting to TRY and make the various settings the same.
I've found that User needs more backlighting to achieve the same brightness than Standard, for instance.
Getting a consistent white temperature is the first step, of course. Brightness is sacrificed for linearity...
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post #1476 of 1518
9/26/12 at 1:11am
Had the set since black Friday sale, so far so happy.
Only issue I have is audio lag on some blue-rays I assume is coming from hdmi input or my old receiver.
One movie that seems to exaggerate it is batman the dark knight.
I run ps3 hdmi straight to the tv and fiber optic from the ps3 to the receiver.

Has anyone found a way to alleviate the lip sync problem on some BR movies?
I noticed issue is worse if my ps3 uses any input than hdmi 1.
Could the receiver be a determining factor? It's a Sony STR DG-1000 http://store.sony.com/p/STR-DG1000/en/p/STRDG1000#specifications
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post #1477 of 1518
9/26/12 at 4:04am
The only solution is to buy a new receiver that has lip sync adjustments. I ended up buying a Denon 1612 for less than $200. It works great.
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post #1478 of 1518
9/26/12 at 11:38am
I've been using Jason's latest movie setting and have been very satisfied. However, when watching football, white jerseys on my set appear very bright, have little detail, and can often look iridescent - ish. Also, the grass/turf of some fields (various channels) looks unnaturally bright green (unless watching Boise St playing at home - yuk) while it looks normal when watching other games. Otherwise, the colors/tones for everything else during the game are very good. I don't seem to notice either of these things when watching other programming. Has anyone else noticed either of these variations?
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post #1479 of 1518
9/26/12 at 2:02pm
does anyone have an issue where if you fiddle in the tv menu it will force change the channel to a sub 99 channel. its a pia if your adjusting things while watching cable and you get kicked to a sd channel. All hd and pseudo hd channels for xfinity in my area are 8xx.

Ill tell you this once you get used to 70in theres no going back. Go to the store and those tvs I used to think were large are now tiny.
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post #1480 of 1518
9/26/12 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by Peter_in_PA View Post

I've been using Jason's latest movie setting and have been very satisfied. However, when watching football, white jerseys on my set appear very bright, have little detail, and can often look iridescent - ish. Also, the grass/turf of some fields (various channels) looks unnaturally bright green (unless watching Boise St playing at home - yuk) while it looks normal when watching other games. Otherwise, the colors/tones for everything else during the game are very good. I don't seem to notice either of these things when watching other programming. Has anyone else noticed either of these variations?

I thought that it was perhaps my set... I could get it "almost there", but do experience the whiter that white, and washed out darker backgrounds eometimes...

I'm now on Dynamic, the PQ is all over the place with DTV, but it's about the best I can get it.

--Tom
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post #1481 of 1518
10/1/12 at 5:37pm
I still marvel on how great this TV looks when you can get the settings right.
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post #1482 of 1518
10/5/12 at 2:36am
Dynamic didn't work out... I'm now back on Standard.

--Tom
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post #1483 of 1518
10/6/12 at 10:27pm
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Originally Posted by ellover009 View Post

Had the set since black Friday sale, so far so happy.
Only issue I have is audio lag on some blue-rays I assume is coming from hdmi input or my old receiver.
One movie that seems to exaggerate it is batman the dark knight.
I run ps3 hdmi straight to the tv and fiber optic from the ps3 to the receiver.
Has anyone found a way to alleviate the lip sync problem on some BR movies?
I noticed issue is worse if my ps3 uses any input than hdmi 1.
Could the receiver be a determining factor? It's a Sony STR DG-1000 http://store.sony.com/p/STR-DG1000/en/p/STRDG1000#specifications

This older Sony does have audio delay settings, but yes, you are getting to the point where an update may be in order. Still it is a really nice receiver and may still have some life left.

Try connecting the PS3 to the sony receiver via HDMI only. Set the PS3 to send audio through HDMI. They should handshake well, and you should get great sound. My DG910 was connected this way for years and i never had an issue once I got the sound delay right. But remember the Sharp TV has different lag depending on the pic mode selected. I use my PS3 mostly for media, so my delay is set to match dynamic av mode.
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post #1484 of 1518
10/25/12 at 2:39am
Does anyone know what "Active Contrast" does?

My DTV feed (standard mode with active contrast on) is all over the place.

I was thinking that perhaps, on this set, active contrast may exacerbate the normal contrast from standard PQ to washed out and light/dark areas?

--Tom
Edited by vdoefx - 10/25/12 at 8:05am
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post #1485 of 1518
12/10/12 at 12:29pm
Hey guys

I'm currenlty having a dispute with SHARP trying to get my TV replaced before the warranty is up. I'm still dealing with the DSE issue and it's getting more annoying as time goes by.

They say this happens to ALL TVs not just Sharp. And that it's normal. I asked for a disclaimer showing this and they linked me to some random Blog. LOL!

Anyone have any success in getting their TV switched out?

Also, they keep claiming it's this is an Edge lit TV. Didn't I read this is a Full Array?
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post #1486 of 1518
12/10/12 at 1:50pm
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Originally Posted by deathstar1000 View Post

Hey guys
I'm currenlty having a dispute with SHARP trying to get my TV replaced before the warranty is up. I'm still dealing with the DSE issue and it's getting more annoying as time goes by.
They say this happens to ALL TVs not just Sharp. And that it's normal. I asked for a disclaimer showing this and they linked me to some random Blog. LOL!
Anyone have any success in getting their TV switched out?
Also, they keep claiming it's this is an Edge lit TV. Didn't I read this is a Full Array?

Sorry to hear that you are having issues. I've had 3 sets replaced by Sharp, after opening up cases and sending pictures as directed by the agent(s) at Sharp. No problems in working with them. The 632 series is full array. The 640 is edge led.
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post #1487 of 1518
12/10/12 at 9:16pm
Myoda, do you still have the pics that you sent them? Apparently the ones I sent them, including vids, were not good enough. It's a pain getting the effect on still images when you mainly notice it when the image is panning.
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post #1488 of 1518
12/11/12 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by deathstar1000 View Post

Myoda, do you still have the pics that you sent them? Apparently the ones I sent them, including vids, were not good enough. It's a pain getting the effect on still images when you mainly notice it when the image is panning.

I'm not sure if I understand what your issue is - is it clouding or DSE?

Don't have pics of the 632, but here's a link to a previous post:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1415453/stay-with-a-640-to-upgrade-to-an-847
lc70le640u images:
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=c929f6af0b155736&Bsrc=Share&Bpub=SDX.SkyDrive&sc=Photos&resid=C929F6AF0B155736!335&id=C929F6AF0B155736!335

I now have a lc70847u - it has minimal clouding, but no dirty screen effect that is noticeable.
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post #1489 of 1518
12/11/12 at 11:19am
I have both, the the clouding is minimal. The DSE is what's killing me.

Tried clicking on the links you provided but it says "This item might have been deleted, expired, or you might not have permission to access it. Contact the owner of this item for more information".
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post #1490 of 1518
12/11/12 at 11:56am
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Originally Posted by deathstar1000 View Post

I have both, the the clouding is minimal. The DSE is what's killing me.
Tried clicking on the links you provided but it says "This item might have been deleted, expired, or you might not have permission to access it. Contact the owner of this item for more information".
Try this link:
http://sdrv.ms/Vycnhp
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post #1491 of 1518
12/11/12 at 12:07pm
That worked! Were those some of the pics that you sent them?

Would you mind if I use some of your pics to send them?

What's crazy is that they had me turn down the backlight on the set. I'm almost at the full -16 and can still notice it. Yet, this is "normal" to them.
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post #1492 of 1518
12/11/12 at 12:36pm
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Originally Posted by deathstar1000 View Post

That worked! Were those some of the pics that you sent them?
Would you mind if I use some of your pics to send them?
What's crazy is that they had me turn down the backlight on the set. I'm almost at the full -16 and can still notice it. Yet, this is "normal" to them.
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Originally Posted by deathstar1000 View Post

That worked! Were those some of the pics that you sent them?
Would you mind if I use some of your pics to send them?
What's crazy is that they had me turn down the backlight on the set. I'm almost at the full -16 and can still notice it. Yet, this is "normal" to them.

Has Sharp offered to send out a tech to assess your problem? Using my pictures would not be an accurate assessment of your problem as those were from a 640 series set. I had the issue of seeing a diamond lattice structure in back of the picture, similar to your experience. That anamoly does not exist in the pictures on skydrive for the 640. In looking at your earlier posts, it seems like this problem has existed since you bought the set just about a year ago. I would pressure Sharp to send someone out to verify that your are having a problem with this panel.
Edited by myoda - 12/11/12 at 12:42pm
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post #1493 of 1518
12/11/12 at 2:42pm
No offer at all to send out a tech.

All I get is:

"I apologize that this issue has not been resolved to your satisfaction. While the unit is considered as operating within specifications"
"We do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you"
"I do understand your frustration you are experiencing but based off the photos provided, what you are experiencing is considered with in normal operation for a flatscreen TV."

This was the original "resolution" email I received:
"The diagnostic shows that the unit is deemed to be working within specifications based on the pictures received. A perfect screen background is not guaranteed. Due to the edge lighting technology used on certain models including this one, a perfect uniform background is not guaranteed accordingly. Based on the received pictures, the TV works within its technology expectations/specifications and in this case deemed to be normal.


The shadow is normal. The backlight on flat screen TVs can't always produce even lighting and is what causes the shadowing the customer sees. you can lower brightness (try Movie mode) to make less noticeable but this is not a warranty related issue and does not need to be re-evaluated."

I feel like I'm getting the run around. Now in the last e-mail I received, they said to call them so they can walk me through a process called INIT, to make it less noticeable. Every hear of it?
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post #1494 of 1518
12/11/12 at 3:23pm
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Originally Posted by deathstar1000 View Post

No offer at all to send out a tech.
All I get is:

"I apologize that this issue has not been resolved to your satisfaction. While the unit is considered as operating within specifications"
"We do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you"
"I do understand your frustration you are experiencing but based off the photos provided, what you are experiencing is considered with in normal operation for a flatscreen TV."
This was the original "resolution" email I received:
"The diagnostic shows that the unit is deemed to be working within specifications based on the pictures received. A perfect screen background is not guaranteed. Due to the edge lighting technology used on certain models including this one, a perfect uniform background is not guaranteed accordingly. Based on the received pictures, the TV works within its technology expectations/specifications and in this case deemed to be normal.
The shadow is normal. The backlight on flat screen TVs can't always produce even lighting and is what causes the shadowing the customer sees. you can lower brightness (try Movie mode) to make less noticeable but this is not a warranty related issue and does not need to be re-evaluated."
I feel like I'm getting the run around. Now in the last e-mail I received, they said to call them so they can walk me through a process called INIT, to make it less noticeable. Every hear of it?

Your panel is a full array unit. Ask to talk to a supervisor. Press them to send out a tech. INIT is a process to reset the TV. How long has this been an open case with Sharp? Usually, these issues(clouding, flashlighting, screen uniformity) are present on some LCD panels right out of the box. Could you repost your pics or a link to them?

edit...

After looking at your previous posts, your original set was purchased in December of 2011, and was replaced in January, 2012. And it had the same problem. I would have either exchanged it for something else or asked for a refund at that time. I'm just fussy that way. Did you happen to register your original and replacement units with Aquos Advantage? If so, you would have an extra three months added to your standard warranty.
Edited by myoda - 12/11/12 at 3:38pm
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post #1495 of 1518
12/11/12 at 9:02pm
They have confirmed with me that the warranty expires in February 2013. You know, I thought the issue would get better over time or I would get used to it and notice it less.

These are the pics I sent them. The 1st, 2nd & 7th pic show the DSE. You can also notice the darkened corners on the 7th pic too. The others show the cloudiness:

1st is unedited. The following 3 I just adjusted the brightness/contrast little by little so they could easily see it the problem.









2nd pic. 1st unedited.




3rd-6th pic unedited.









7th pic. 1st unedited.





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post #1496 of 1518
12/13/12 at 6:31am
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They have confirmed with me that the warranty expires in February 2013. You know, I thought the issue would get better over time or I would get used to it and notice it less.
These are the pics I sent them. The 1st, 2nd & 7th pic show the DSE. You can also notice the darkened corners on the 7th pic too. The others show the cloudiness:
1st is unedited. The following 3 I just adjusted the brightness/contrast little by little so they could easily see it the problem.

Looking at these pictures, it looks like the set might be working within spec. Did you ever get a letter via email from Sharp, describing in detail the pictures that were needed?


In an effort to properly diagnose the issue you are experiencing with your television, please send photos (as attachments) to us at aquosadvantage@sharpusa.com. Ensure the total email size is no more than 10 MB. (If the total size of the email message exceeds 10 MB, divide the photos into multiple smaller-sized emails in order to send them to us.) Below are some guidelines to be used when taking photos:

* Send at least three (3) to five (5) photos as described below.
* All of the photos should be taken with active TV video on the screen rather than PC / Game system video or a plain black / grey screen. It is more helpful in diagnosing the issue.
* Take the photos directly in front of the TV (rather than at an angle).
* Turn off the camera flash to avoid reflections that can make the issue difficult to see.
* Be sure to use the highest resolution possible on your camera.

Please take at least three (3) full screen photos (showing the entire television screen and frame) with active TV video:
1. Press the MENU button on the remote control, and take a full screen photo with the TV Menu displayed.
2. Press the DISPLAY button, and take a full screen photo showing the on-screen display for every input available.
o On-screen display includes the input number, type of signal, resolution, audio type, etc.
3. Take a full screen photo without the TV Menu or on-screen display
4. Take any additional close-up photos that will help us identify the issue.
5. Take a photo of the model number and serial number sticker on either the rear or side of the unit.

Once we receive the photos, we will complete the evaluation and provide a response as soon as possible.

Thank you very much for your cooperation.

Edited by myoda - 12/13/12 at 6:48am
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post #1497 of 1518
12/13/12 at 11:15am
Never got that e-mail explaining what pics they were looking for exactly. They just told me to take pics.

I really don't know how to capture the right picture since I notice it when the image is panning. For example, that 7th pic that is unedited I can barely see any problem since it's still. But I took that image since when I was watching the actual program, you could easily see the issue as the image was panning.

You think I'm out of luck?
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post #1498 of 1518
12/13/12 at 4:36pm
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Never got that e-mail explaining what pics they were looking for exactly. They just told me to take pics.
I really don't know how to capture the right picture since I notice it when the image is panning. For example, that 7th pic that is unedited I can barely see any problem since it's still. But I took that image since when I was watching the actual program, you could easily see the issue as the image was panning.
You think I'm out of luck?

Standard operating procedure with Sharp, per my experiences, were to:
1: Create a case
2: Generate a case number
3: Sharp generates a letter, like the one I posted with an email address for you to send the pictures to.
4: Send your pictures, taken as detailed in the letter to Sharp referencing your case id number in the subject line of your email to Sharp.
5. If you don't do the above, you will be SOL by February, 2013

Really, I don't understand why you waited until your warranty was just about up to suddenly notice that there is an issue with your set. Good luck.
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post #1499 of 1518
12/18/12 at 11:33am
Yeah, that was one of my duh moments. Guess I thought the exchange would have been easy, without hassle, so waiting closer to the end of the warranty, maybe the issues with the set would have been resolved.

I should hopefully have time to give them a call on Friday. I'll see if I can convince them to send out a tech.

And before I forget, just want to thank you Myoda for answering my questions here.
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post #1500 of 1518
12/18/12 at 4:21pm
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Yeah, that was one of my duh moments. Guess I thought the exchange would have been easy, without hassle, so waiting closer to the end of the warranty, maybe the issues with the set would have been resolved.
I should hopefully have time to give them a call on Friday. I'll see if I can convince them to send out a tech.
And before I forget, just want to thank you Myoda for answering my questions here.

Keep us posted on your progress.
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