Official JVC RS55/X70 owners thread. - Page 100

Funny you mentioning this because my hiatus from this thread (I'm sure for some that was a good thing ), was because of a new project where I'm converting my theater URC hard button remote to an iPad app from iRule (not for the faint of heart on the learning curve scale though because you need a fairly good sense of application logic... and a background in Photoshop cetainly helps too!).

I am now all but done and thanks to Gary's well written doc on IP/RS232 I was able to get full IP control over the RS55 going and it is a thing of beauty (allbeit a bit cludgy because it shuts down the IP connection every 5 seconds without a keep alive command)! The best feature to this application for this PJ and my other IP devices (DirecTV HR24, Tivo, but especially my Denon 5308ci!), is the ability to send the direct Hex commands from one button! For instance I have the lens shifts I saved into aspect ratio buttons so one simple push and I have a quick masking of the movie (well that and when I get off my ars and pull down my shade from the top... yeah... poor mans masking system as I'm one of the few here that don't believe in a ani-lens!). It even has direct Hex commands for the aspect ratio lens as well as direct feedback of input and surround modes on the screen!

I'll be making more additions as time goes on (like for direct gamma control etc...), but for now I'm happy to get this going in something other than straight IR (NO MORE WORRY about the room being flooded with IR because the iPad sends ALL the commands over your home WiFi to a Global Cache device hooked up to your router in the theater!).

For anyone looking for this type approach and who has an iPad (or Android device!), I highly recommend this application as the support provided by iRule is second to none (not too shabby for $50 . . . ($100 for the Pro version)).

Here's a few of my screenshots to give you a sense of the app . . . (BTW ... the cool factor on this is off the hook! especially now that I bought a stand for it called "the Perch" which looks fantastic by my HT chairs!)

That's pretty cool krichter1. Looks great.

I have to do some re-programming of my remote for the RS55. Did you happen to find direct commands for the MPC settings? Right now it's a pain having to go through the menus to get there.

Thanks Rich.

That's the one's I was looking for too but even the updated 2012 doc Gary put together doesn't have them and when I asked about it I was told JVC doesn't publish Service Menu Hex commands.

Here's the direct IR Hex commands for what you need:



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Sorry, to be clear I wasn't talking about the service menu MPC command, which turns the E-shift on/off.

I was inquiring about the normal user-accessible menus, in which you find the MPC 1-3 settings, which increase image detail. Those are the ones I'd like direct access to.

Ah yes... those are not SM items but sadly they are not included in the updated doc from Gary:

JVC IP/RS232 Protocol Doc

Jonathan - Would you be so kind as to inquire to Gary on what the MPC 1-3 settings would be in Hex? I would love to add those to my iRule JVC page.

Thanks Mate!

Lowered my JVC price to the lowest I'm willing to go at $4500 plus shipping and PayPal fees. If not sold by wednesday I will post to eBay.

Link...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/vbcla...do=ad&id=17396

Made contact w/ Gary and he was able to provide me with the direct Hex command string for MPC control!   


Level 0 - 21 89 01 50 4D 4A 4C 30 30 30 30 0A
Level 1 - 21 89 01 50 4D 4A 4C 30 30 30 31 0A
Level 2 - 21 89 01 50 4D 4A 4C 30 30 30 32 0A
Level 3 - 21 89 01 50 4D 4A 4C 30 30 30 33 0A

Thanks to GaryB from JVC!!!

Edited by krichter1 - 6/27/12 at 6:18am

Hey Kevin,

Do you know if these are 232 Hex commands or IR Hex commands? If they are IR Hex commands did Gary mention the ASCII codes?


EDIT: It looks like these are 232 commands and not IR commands.....

They are RS232/IP strings and I was going to ask Gary on the UK thread for IR but I see you've already done that my brutha!

It is still on even at level 0.

I asked him way back when about IR but none existed then (December timeframe IIRC). He was going to ask Japan but I never heard back. A quick glance at his Remote Control Document tho does not show the commands you posted so with a lot of luck there are IR commands as well that aren't in his document.

EDIT: Gary Posted back already....there are no IR equivalents. Anyone know of an inexpensive IR to 232 (or Lan) converter? Someday I may do what Kevin did with iRule which looks ultra cool.....nice job with that buddy...

Thanks Geof! I emailed my contact at iRule to see if he has a way to convert to IR hex strings so I'll let you know.

I can confirm these work just fine but they do not provide any screen confirmation. You see in my screenshot I added the IP commands to one key as this software supports Toggle commands so as not to eat up the page real estate. The beauty and power of this application is it took me only 20 minutes to add all this to my JVC page (including Photoshop button creation time!), because all your app development is done on the web using a Gmail account, then you just sync your iPad or Android device (did I mention this works w/ iPhones & iPods too!).

You should really consider this app Geof, (while everything is fresh in my mind and I can save you a TON of learning curve time!), it's like nothing I've ever seen before. It's like having a 2-3K Crestron system but WAY cooler... and cheaper (guess I'm sounding like a Fan Boy... but I guess that's what I am now)!

Yeah UR correct... I forgot there as a 0 (min) level... bummer. Still happy to have it though!

I know Rich will be a happy camper too!

The RS55/X70 Gang has a new proud owner of a X70!

I'm shipping the unit to Him/Her tonight.

Hi guys,

I really need your help.

I just had my RS55 projector installed yesterday, and for some odd reason, I feel like the picture is maybe not in focus, and maybe is stretched out too much...

Can someone here explain the simple and easy way to check for:

1) Focus

2) Zoom

3) Making sure I'm getting 100% of image with no overscan

I'm projecting on a 100 inch diagonal (16:9) Stewart Filmscreen StudioTek 130 G3 screen.

Thanks for helping me...

Use your lens Control key on the remote to check Focus & Zoom. A green image pattern should display and every press of the Lens CTL key cycles through Focus/Zoom/Shift. If the image pattern is not coming on then turn it on (Menu=> Installation => Lens CTL => Image Pattern On/Off). The installation section is where you can check Keystone too.

Overscan check is under Menu => Input Sig => Mask

Lastly check your ANAMO button as maybe you pushed it accidentally and it's on A or B (would look "squeezed" without a lens installed). Also check... Menu => Input Signal => Aspect to be sure it's 16:9.

Does anybody game on these projectors? apparently they have 100+ms of lag... is this true? Any way to improve the lag (disable some pic processing)?

Thanks Kevin!

I have more questions... I'm a newbie to front projection, so I'm trying to get things right and you guys know your stuff.

Hi Kevin!

I appreciate your help in the thread, you look like you know your stuff.

I have questions for you....

1) So I used the lens control button on the remote to cycle through zoom, shift and focus. I tried to get the grid lines to line up as closely as I could to the edges of the screen. Obviously, I can't get 100% perfect, it's pretty close on all sides. Is this normal? Would you suggest I see all the picture, or use a bit of overscan to make sure I cover the last 1/8th of an inch of remaining viewing area? What's best?

2) Is it normal that I see a bit of blue on the grid pattern ?? There is a slight blue hue near the green grid lines... I guess this is the panel alignement? How can I adjust all three colors to make sure they're as close as I can?

I heard you can access the service menu. What are the commands to access the service menu?

And is it easy to check for alignement and what ever else should I check in the service menu?

3) Does the MPC setting control the amount of eShift? Do you suggest setting it at zero (least) or 1, 2 or 3 (most) ??? What is the setting that generally looks best according to your experience?

4) Some users here suggested I use a 2.5 gamma curve since I'm in a perfect batcave (mate black ceilings and walls, no windows, perfect light control). I don't see where I input a numerical value for the gamma curve... I see a custom gamma option, but it doesn't ask for the value I want... How do I input this setting??? I know you cleanly write what menus I have to cycle through...

5) Other than that, members suggested I use the following picture settings while waiting for my calibrator that can only make it here in October:
- user setting
- standard color profile
- 6500K color temperature
- 2.5 gamma curve in custom gamma preset (how do I access this??)
- use the -15 aperture setting to get maximum on/off contrast (picture still looks bright enough for me)

Any other settings you'd suggest???

6) I have a Stewart Filmscreen StudioTek 130 G3 100 inch diagonal 16:9 format screen. Oppo BDP-93 blu-ray player. Onkyo TX-NR3008 receiver. Sonus Faber Toy collection 7.1 speaker setup with SVS PB13 Ultra subwoofer.

Answered you thru your PM.

I received confirmation from Gary there is no ASCII equivalent for these so you can't even use MAKEHEX to convert these to IR long hex strings.

Guess that means you're going to have to convert to an iPad/Android remote (my MPC button works great thru IP!).

Do anyone has this problem, turn on high lamp mode go into service mode. Look for 50% full window test pattern and see if your image pulsates or strobes.
I have 2- RS 55 that has this problem, this only happens with high lamp mode.

I do, its about 80ms for me and its unplayable for FPS games but I run some flgiht simulations where it doesnt matter as much.

I was holding my breath for a while hoping for a firmware fix. It blows my mind why they dont have a "GAME" mode in the options menu that disables some processing, sony has it, why not JVC?

We want our interstellar blacks to eat them too.

I am content as long as these PJ's hold their resale value, hopefully the next round from JVC contains a game mode and I can upgrade. I would have paid $1000 more for better bulb life and a low latency mode.

YES!
Exactly the same issue I've observed and asked to others here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1397878

With the pace of changes with digital projectors, there has (IMHO) never been one that holes resale value. Even if the next year's model is only slightly better, it's still "better and newer" in the eyes of the purchaser.

IMHO projectors should be purchased on the premise that anything you get when you go to sell is gravy.

Kal

OK, not only me. I replaced the lamps on both units with same issue.
So i know its not the lamp, image in mid brightness the flickering is really noticeable.

well, that's really a bit unbeleavable for such an expensive device; I'm not really happy with.

It's a bit annoying cause even now I perceive it at the JVC's transparency OSD (gray background), for example when a film is paused.

I really would like to know, what's the cause of this ... maybe an electronic glitch/instability or just a firmware issue ...

Guess, JVC does know it ...

I don't recall seeing this on either of the RS55's I had during calibration in high lamp.

Have either of you guys tried updating to the current firmware? My 2nd RS55 has the firmware from January if I recall.

both of my units has the latest FW....

The thing is that there are very little changes with digital projectors from year to year and most are unnoticeable. I barely lost money selling my RS40 last year and some do it ever year by not taking a big hit either