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post #3241 of 3669
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

Embarrassing revelation time:
I haven't even tried the 3D mode on my RS55 yet!

If it makes you feel better neither have I! I still need glasses and a new BD player. Waiting for the new Oppo decks to be released.wink.gif

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post #3242 of 3669
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Originally Posted by Sharp1080 View Post

Waiting for the new Oppo decks to be released.wink.gif

Ummm, they already have been.
post #3243 of 3669
Correct regarding the Oppos

BDP-103 available now (just got one - very nice player not sure if it is that much of an upgrade over the BDP-93 which I previously had)

BDP-105 not available until Nov or Dec I believe
post #3244 of 3669
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Originally Posted by rpconrad View Post

Correct regarding the Oppos
BDP-103 available now (just got one - very nice player not sure if it is that much of an upgrade over the BDP-93 which I previously had)
BDP-105 not available until Nov or Dec I believe

Thanks for the update regarding the Oppo I am waiting for the 105. I want to replace both my Panasonic BD30 and Ayre CX-7e Cd player with a "one box" unit!
post #3245 of 3669
FYI re the differences

Both the BDP-103 and BDP-105 sound quality are identical when using digital audio outputs. The advantage of the BDP-105 according to OPPO Digital INC is the improved analog audio performance when compared to the BDP-103. Also the BDP-105 in some ways is like a A/V receiver since it supports digital coaxial input, optical input, and asynchronous USB in. Also the BDP-105 will have a headphone amplifier jack which to my knowledge will be the very first Blu-ray player on the market with a headphone jack (which is a nice feature for consumers that do not own a A/V receiver or do not want to turn on their A/V receiver late at night to listen to movies or music).

Most people I've known that buy the 5 series get it for analog audio quality (if into analog)

You might want to register on the Oppo site for availability notification (they get back to you as soon as vailability frees up) and I believe there is pent up demand for the 105 if you want it soon
post #3246 of 3669
Exactly why I'm getting the 105. My Ayre CX-7e has been my analog playback unit. I did register for the info on the Oppo site. Thanks to all of you in helping me spend my money! biggrin.gif
post #3247 of 3669
Hi Guys,

I have an X3 atm and have the opportunity to trade it for a X70 + € 1200. Not interested in 3D but the only thing holding me back are the lamp issues. I seems like US has a lot more lamp dimming/exploding problem then Europe. Am I correct in this?
post #3248 of 3669
I checked last night and I am at 265 hrs on the original bulb! Purchased in June 2012, I primarily use it for BD movies.I do however watch Fringe through it. I learned my lesson about bulb life with my old Infocus 7205, I watched way too many network shows that could have been viewed on a regular flat screen monitor which would have saved my projector's bulb life.
post #3249 of 3669
Had anyone use the network port and can verify that it have IP control and work? (either through irule, or Roomie?) Thanks.
post #3250 of 3669
Quote:
Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

Embarrassing revelation time:
I haven't even tried the 3D mode on my RS55 yet!

And you've even owned the greatest unreleased 3D movie of all time (that two years later they finally released to the public)! eek.gif Shame on you Rich! tongue.gif
post #3251 of 3669
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Had anyone use the network port and can verify that it have IP control and work? (either through irule, or Roomie?) Thanks.


This pic I posted the other day on the iRule thread of my JVC remote page is all IP controlled (with a 3 sec keep alive defined in the entrance).

post #3252 of 3669
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Had anyone use the network port and can verify that it have IP control and work? (either through irule, or Roomie?) Thanks.

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Originally Posted by krichter1 View Post

This pic I posted the other day on the iRule thread of my JVC remote page is all IP controlled (with a 3 sec keep alive defined in the entrance).

I use iRule on my RS45 as well and I love it!

The only issue that I have with it is after I select a custom lens memory I have to choose Yes/No that it's OK and at that point it will not take my IP commands and I have to send an IR command. After that it works fine. Some of the commands for picture settings and such do not match what iRule says.
post #3253 of 3669
Thanks xb1032 and Kevin! One more thing, when using IP control, do they have a dedicated button to get to HIGH/LOW lamp? For me, I usually stick to LOW lamp, but for 3D, I normally just switch to HIGH LAMP and that's it. right now, I have to click through menu to get to it.. From the menu, I do not see a dedicated command to switch between, but just want to double check here. Thanks!
post #3254 of 3669
Hi,

Just installed my X70. I m looking for some input on some things. My projector will be ISF calibrated in a few weeks but what I want to do first is set some basic things so I have a 90% (or so) perfect image. I know that when the ISF calibration will be done the CMS, gamma and some other things will be configured properly but there are some basics that can already be taken care of myself. Hope you guys don t mind running throught the various settings:

1.
Picture Mode: I have set this on 'USER1' because I know the ISF calibration guys will do this too

2.
Color Profile: is this settings is the same as the 'COLOR SPACE' setting on my previous X3 I owned? I think that I have to choose between 'CINEMA1', 'CINEMA2' or 'STANDARD' but I m not sure about this. For your info, I m running a HTPC with a NVIDIA graphics card and I use the HDMI output of my card. More specific: I m using Media Player Classic with madVR as output renderer with output setting PC Levels (0-255). I m also using LAV video decoder with the setting 'RGB Output Untouched'. And I m also using ffdshow Raw Video Decoder set as Raw Video 'All Supported' and Output only checked the box YV12.

3.
Color Temp.: I ve set this at 'CUSTOM1' and '6500K'. I know that this was the starting position with my X30 so I assume the ISF calibration guys will work with the 6500K setting too and adjust the Red, Green and Blue Gain and Offset with the 6500K setting (again, correct my if I m wrong here or if another setting as starting point is better to be used!)

4.
Gamma: 'CUSTOM1'

5.
Dark/Bright Level: both leave it on the default '0'

6.
PIcture Tone White, Red Green and Blue: leave all on the default '0'

7.
Contrast, Brightness, Color and Tint: In the past I ve noticed that the JVCs are pretty close to ISF when running the default '0' for all these but my ISF calibration guy will check these anyway.

8.
Sharpness and NR: Customize these the way the user prefers but I prefered all 'OFF' / '0' on my previous JVCs

9.
Custom Gamma: I have set my Correction Value on 2.4 because that was the setting that my ISF calibration guy did for my X30. (for your guys info, I have a complete darkened pitch black bat cave)

10.
Color Management: 'CUSTOM1'. This will be done with the ISF calibration

11.
MPC Level: Is this the E-Shift technology? If so, what is recommended for Blu-Ray content; 1,2 or 3?

12.
HDMI Input: I think (when looking at my HTPC setup) I need to set it to ENHANCED here right?


All of the above settings are not recommendation but more like questions what to do with all the settings. If you guys could advise me from point to point what the best settings are untill my pj gets the ISF calibration I would be very thankfull!

ps. Sorry for my bad English
post #3255 of 3669
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Thanks xb1032 and Kevin! One more thing, when using IP control, do they have a dedicated button to get to HIGH/LOW lamp? For me, I usually stick to LOW lamp, but for 3D, I normally just switch to HIGH LAMP and that's it. right now, I have to click through menu to get to it.. From the menu, I do not see a dedicated command to switch between, but just want to double check here. Thanks!

I do not see an option to switch between commands in the database. You can however create a macro to do it for you so as not to have to manually make the change. If you purchase iRule it's very simple to do. Simply create your button, and drag and drop the commands onto the button in the order you want to perform the function. I have a Denon 3808CI and I use my RS45 for movies and my Samsung TV for everything else. My Denon 3808CI does not support 3D so I purchased a Panasonic Blu-Ray player with 2 HDMI outs to get around this. To watch 3D on my projector I have to disable video out on one of the ports. If I don't re-enable video out on that HDMI port I can't see video on my TV. I made a macro that performs the commands for me at the touch of one button and it will perform the action regardless of whether I see video or not. A couple of seconds later video out has been enabled and all works fine. wink.gif Just remember to ensure that the delays between each commands aren't too fast, otherwise your macro won't work correctly.
post #3256 of 3669
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Originally Posted by sanderdvd View Post

Hi,
Just installed my X70. I m looking for some input on some things. My projector will be ISF calibrated in a few weeks but what I want to do first is set some basic things so I have a 90% (or so) perfect image. I know that when the ISF calibration will be done the CMS, gamma and some other things will be configured properly but there are some basics that can already be taken care of myself. Hope you guys don t mind running throught the various settings:
1.
Picture Mode: I have set this on 'USER1' because I know the ISF calibration guys will do this too
2.
Color Profile: is this settings is the same as the 'COLOR SPACE' setting on my previous X3 I owned? I think that I have to choose between 'CINEMA1', 'CINEMA2' or 'STANDARD' but I m not sure about this. For your info, I m running a HTPC with a NVIDIA graphics card and I use the HDMI output of my card. More specific: I m using Media Player Classic with madVR as output renderer with output setting PC Levels (0-255). I m also using LAV video decoder with the setting 'RGB Output Untouched'. And I m also using ffdshow Raw Video Decoder set as Raw Video 'All Supported' and Output only checked the box YV12.
3.
Color Temp.: I ve set this at 'CUSTOM1' and '6500K'. I know that this was the starting position with my X30 so I assume the ISF calibration guys will work with the 6500K setting too and adjust the Red, Green and Blue Gain and Offset with the 6500K setting (again, correct my if I m wrong here or if another setting as starting point is better to be used!)
4.
Gamma: 'CUSTOM1'
5.
Dark/Bright Level: both leave it on the default '0'
6.
PIcture Tone White, Red Green and Blue: leave all on the default '0'
7.
Contrast, Brightness, Color and Tint: In the past I ve noticed that the JVCs are pretty close to ISF when running the default '0' for all these but my ISF calibration guy will check these anyway.
8.
Sharpness and NR: Customize these the way the user prefers but I prefered all 'OFF' / '0' on my previous JVCs
9.
Custom Gamma: I have set my Correction Value on 2.4 because that was the setting that my ISF calibration guy did for my X30. (for your guys info, I have a complete darkened pitch black bat cave)
10.
Color Management: 'CUSTOM1'. This will be done with the ISF calibration
11.
MPC Level: Is this the E-Shift technology? If so, what is recommended for Blu-Ray content; 1,2 or 3?
12.
HDMI Input: I think (when looking at my HTPC setup) I need to set it to ENHANCED here right?
All of the above settings are not recommendation but more like questions what to do with all the settings. If you guys could advise me from point to point what the best settings are untill my pj gets the ISF calibration I would be very thankfull!
ps. Sorry for my bad English

You are best off keeping the projector in THX mode until you have a calibration done. THX is JVC's approximation of a calibrated picture. People complain that their THX mode is off in one way or another but it is closer than you will get just playing with the controls.

That said, since you seem to be using PC levels, you want to set HDMI for Enhanced. Feel free to use the NR sharpness and MPC level controls to get a look that you like.
post #3257 of 3669
Lawguy's advice above is sound (as always:)) but I think that THX forces HDMI superwhite on the rs55/X70, so you might get the wrong black levels with the defaults as it means it will expect 16-255, not the 0-255 you will be sending from your HTPC.
This means you'll probably have to adjust your black levels using the brightness control in THX and a pluge pattern on a calibration bluray such as the AVS HD one (or the Spears and Munsil bluray). If you can't, the best way to adjust brightness in a bat cave is to lower it say to -10 (if using HDMI enhanced with video standard levels, otherwise -5 is probably enough), and then while displaying a 0% pattern (full black) go up until you see a slight raise in brightness, then go back one notch (before you can see the raise). Otherwise you'll kill your on/off contrast.

Your initial choices sound good to me in a bat cave, as THX (even at the right black levels) probably looks a bit washed out due to it targetting a safe 2.1 gamma (in case it's being used in a bright living room), with no way to change it.

As Lawguy noted you will have to adjust contrast/brightness if you use HDMI enhanced in a user1 preset, probably around -6 or -7 for brightness and +7 to +14 depending on where you want to clip white (235 or as per THX go up to 255, or anything in between to preserve brightness and on/off contrast). That's assuming you're sending standard video levels, if sending 0-255 you might be fine with the 0,0 defaults.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sanderdvd View Post

Hi,
Just installed my X70. I m looking for some input on some things. My projector will be ISF calibrated in a few weeks but what I want to do first is set some basic things so I have a 90% (or so) perfect image. I know that when the ISF calibration will be done the CMS, gamma and some other things will be configured properly but there are some basics that can already be taken care of myself. Hope you guys don t mind running throught the various settings:
1.
Picture Mode: I have set this on 'USER1' because I know the ISF calibration guys will do this too
2.
Color Profile: is this settings is the same as the 'COLOR SPACE' setting on my previous X3 I owned? I think that I have to choose between 'CINEMA1', 'CINEMA2' or 'STANDARD' but I m not sure about this. For your info, I m running a HTPC with a NVIDIA graphics card and I use the HDMI output of my card. More specific: I m using Media Player Classic with madVR as output renderer with output setting PC Levels (0-255). I m also using LAV video decoder with the setting 'RGB Output Untouched'. And I m also using ffdshow Raw Video Decoder set as Raw Video 'All Supported' and Output only checked the box YV12.
3.
Color Temp.: I ve set this at 'CUSTOM1' and '6500K'. I know that this was the starting position with my X30 so I assume the ISF calibration guys will work with the 6500K setting too and adjust the Red, Green and Blue Gain and Offset with the 6500K setting (again, correct my if I m wrong here or if another setting as starting point is better to be used!)
4.
Gamma: 'CUSTOM1'
5.
Dark/Bright Level: both leave it on the default '0'
6.
PIcture Tone White, Red Green and Blue: leave all on the default '0'
7.
Contrast, Brightness, Color and Tint: In the past I ve noticed that the JVCs are pretty close to ISF when running the default '0' for all these but my ISF calibration guy will check these anyway.
8.
Sharpness and NR: Customize these the way the user prefers but I prefered all 'OFF' / '0' on my previous JVCs
9.
Custom Gamma: I have set my Correction Value on 2.4 because that was the setting that my ISF calibration guy did for my X30. (for your guys info, I have a complete darkened pitch black bat cave)
10.
Color Management: 'CUSTOM1'. This will be done with the ISF calibration
11.
MPC Level: Is this the E-Shift technology? If so, what is recommended for Blu-Ray content; 1,2 or 3?
12.
HDMI Input: I think (when looking at my HTPC setup) I need to set it to ENHANCED here right?
All of the above settings are not recommendation but more like questions what to do with all the settings. If you guys could advise me from point to point what the best settings are untill my pj gets the ISF calibration I would be very thankfull!
ps. Sorry for my bad English

Edited by Manni01 - 10/28/12 at 6:02am
post #3258 of 3669
I haven't posted here since I got my rs55. My oppo 93 set at 1080p with 24fps on auto, displays awful juddering. Unit was swapped out twice and JVC came over with their pj and their own bdp93. Same problem. Anyone here figured out the problem? Firmware was updated to current version. My rs1, rs20, and rs40 never had this problem. Even scrolling credits shake.
post #3259 of 3669
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Originally Posted by Lawguy View Post

You are best off keeping the projector in THX mode until you have a calibration done. THX is JVC's approximation of a calibrated picture. People complain that their THX mode is off in one way or another but it is closer than you will get just playing with the controls.
That said, since you seem to be using PC levels, you want to set HDMI for Enhanced. Feel free to use the NR sharpness and MPC level controls to get a look that you like.

Hi Sander,

+1 on keeping it in THX mode. And keep all the default settings. Beyond that you could use a consumer test disc to set brightness and contrast until your ISF calibration.. I have the HD750 (equivalent to the RS20) which is about two generations older, but even that model is stunning out of the box.

Jeff
post #3260 of 3669
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Thanks xb1032 and Kevin! One more thing, when using IP control, do they have a dedicated button to get to HIGH/LOW lamp? For me, I usually stick to LOW lamp, but for 3D, I normally just switch to HIGH LAMP and that's it. right now, I have to click through menu to get to it.. From the menu, I do not see a dedicated command to switch between, but just want to double check here. Thanks!

Sure do! wink.gif

LAMP POWER
(X3/X7/X9/X30/X70/X90/RS40/50/60/45/55/65)

Command........................Hex Code
Lamp Power - Normal..... 218901504D4C50300A
Lamp Power - High......... 218901504D4C50310A

Here's the whole JVC RS232/LAN/IR protocol guide

smile.gif
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Originally Posted by xb1032 View Post

I use iRule on my RS45 as well and I love it!
The only issue that I have with it is after I select a custom lens memory I have to choose Yes/No that it's OK and at that point it will not take my IP commands and I have to send an IR command. After that it works fine. Some of the commands for picture settings and such do not match what iRule says.

This means you need to update the FW as the latest version no longer does this. This is one of my FAV buttons to easily/quickly change AR though the memory settings! I wouldn't go off of what iRule says because they have older data. Use the guide above and when you edit each Hex command settings make sure it matches the description. If it doesn't in iRule then copy/paste the Hex code from the guide and replace it in iRule. Easy... Peazy! biggrin.gif
post #3261 of 3669
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Hi Sander,
+1 on keeping it in THX mode. And keep all the default settings. Beyond that you could use a consumer test disc to set brightness and contrast until your ISF calibration.. I have the HD750 (equivalent to the RS20) which is about two generations older, but even that model is stunning out of the box.
Jeff

+1. Even though my unit is calibrated (primarily through my Lumagen VP), I still use THX for some Satellite programming and sports. SJ
post #3262 of 3669
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Originally Posted by krichter1 View Post

Sure do! wink.gif
LAMP POWER
(X3/X7/X9/X30/X70/X90/RS40/50/60/45/55/65)
Command........................Hex Code
Lamp Power - Normal..... 218901504D4C50300A
Lamp Power - High......... 218901504D4C50310A
Here's the whole JVC RS232/LAN/IR protocol guide
smile.gif
This means you need to update the FW as the latest version no longer does this. This is one of my FAV buttons to easily/quickly change AR though the memory settings! I wouldn't go off of what iRule says because they have older data. Use the guide above and when you edit each Hex command settings make sure it matches the description. If it doesn't in iRule then copy/paste the Hex code from the guide and replace it in iRule. Easy... Peazy! biggrin.gif

Great! Thanks Kevin! I'll check this out when I get a chance. Maybe iRule should be e-mailed about this and they can update their database. They are very responsive.
post #3263 of 3669
Current X and RS series JVC projectors have a fair bit of variation from unit to unit. The menu control settings that are good for one projector may not be the best settings for a different projector. This is something the calibrator must verify on each unit. I also agree with the others tha using THX mode for the time being is the best option. The Calibrator will improve on that after the projector is calibrated, but it would be almost impossible for you to improve on THX mode with other settings unless you have a meter and calibration software.
post #3264 of 3669
Thanks for all input guys. I ll stick with the THX mode untill my X70 gets his ISF calibration. But another thing I mentioned last night. Check the attachment P1070282.JPG 288k .JPG file .

I am not talking about the green/yellowish you see (because I think that is a convergence fault that I can take care of) but the PURPLE some kind of vertical lines that you see. These vague purple 'strokes' are not really visible at seating distance but only when looking close at the screen. Also the picture I made is not sharp at all but that s not important for the purple 'lines' problem that is clearly seen at the picture. You can also see this purple stoke very good when I look at my mouse cursor with a black background.

Do I have a faulty unit or is something else going on here?
post #3265 of 3669
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Originally Posted by sanderdvd View Post

Thanks for all input guys. I ll stick with the THX mode untill my X70 gets his ISF calibration. But another thing I mentioned last night. Check the attachment P1070282.JPG 288k .JPG file .
I am not talking about the green/yellowish you see (because I think that is a convergence fault that I can take care of) but the PURPLE some kind of vertical lines that you see. These vague purple 'strokes' are not really visible at seating distance but only when looking close at the screen. Also the picture I made is not sharp at all but that s not important for the purple 'lines' problem that is clearly seen at the picture. You can also see this purple stoke very good when I look at my mouse cursor with a black background.
Do I have a faulty unit or is something else going on here?

It is "common" to see streaks when you have white text on black background for some units. My units had some streaks too, but they are not "purple"... You can try return it, but there is no guarantee the next one won't have the same issues, or "other" issues (like convergence or others). So, I guess you have to pick your poison in this case....
post #3266 of 3669
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Originally Posted by krichter1 View Post

Sure do! wink.gif
LAMP POWER
(X3/X7/X9/X30/X70/X90/RS40/50/60/45/55/65)
Command........................Hex Code
Lamp Power - Normal..... 218901504D4C50300A
Lamp Power - High......... 218901504D4C50310A
Here's the whole JVC RS232/LAN/IR protocol guide
smile.gif
This means you need to update the FW as the latest version no longer does this. This is one of my FAV buttons to easily/quickly change AR though the memory settings! I wouldn't go off of what iRule says because they have older data. Use the guide above and when you edit each Hex command settings make sure it matches the description. If it doesn't in iRule then copy/paste the Hex code from the guide and replace it in iRule. Easy... Peazy! biggrin.gif

Thanks a lot, Kevin! Let the programming fun begin!
post #3267 of 3669
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Originally Posted by sanderdvd View Post

Thanks for all input guys. I ll stick with the THX mode untill my X70 gets his ISF calibration. But another thing I mentioned last night. Check the attachment P1070282.JPG 288k .JPG file .
I am not talking about the green/yellowish you see (because I think that is a convergence fault that I can take care of) but the PURPLE some kind of vertical lines that you see. These vague purple 'strokes' are not really visible at seating distance but only when looking close at the screen. Also the picture I made is not sharp at all but that s not important for the purple 'lines' problem that is clearly seen at the picture. You can also see this purple stoke very good when I look at my mouse cursor with a black background.
Do I have a faulty unit or is something else going on here?

If your unhappy with the purple discoloration issue, I'd encourage you to talk with the company who sold it to you, I had an issue with convergence, and JVC replaced my unit with a brand new one. Since then, I'm very pleased with the picture out of the box.
post #3268 of 3669
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Originally Posted by fight4yu View Post

Thanks a lot, Kevin! Let the programming fun begin!

No problemo... Good luck! PM me if you need help. wink.gif
post #3269 of 3669
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Originally Posted by xb1032 View Post

Great! Thanks Kevin! I'll check this out when I get a chance. Maybe iRule should be e-mailed about this and they can update their database. They are very responsive.

Welcome but just to clarify I was talking about JVCs FW update. smile.gif
post #3270 of 3669
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Originally Posted by krichter1 View Post

Welcome but just to clarify I was talking about JVCs FW update. smile.gif

Understood.

Thanks!
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