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post #1981 of 4435
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Originally Posted by nightfly85 View Post

OK looks like a defective unit. My LG 3D BD player hooked up direct produces the same picture when playing a 3D movie. Tried setting 3D mode to sidebyside or topandbottom but it didn't have any affect.

Does anyone have any ideas? Looks like I need to contact my dealer and get a replacement.

Could those be some sort of sparklies, i.e. you are exceeding the bandwidth capabilities of the signal chain (cable?).
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Axel
post #1982 of 4435
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Originally Posted by gnolivos View Post

Not to be rude, but I subscribed to this thread with specific interest on the RS45, experiences of ownership etc... but there are so many sub threads in here going off track and off topic that it got out of hand, to the point where there seem to be personal battles discussing issues not even specific to the RS45...

Anyhow, good luck to all, I'll check back in a few weeks to see how you are all liking it, this may be my next PJ.

So true! These people don't seem to understand they're being rude and should send private messages to each other, not SPAM everyone else with their bickering and private conversations!!
post #1983 of 4435
What do you guys want to know, I think everyone has said the RS-45 is the real deal, best sub $3500 2D projector ever offered, for 3D it's a mixed bag.

Here is a summary to save everyone the trouble of reading our garbage and dirty laundry:

*Best projector I've ever owned by a long shot, across the board

*RS-45 does POP like DLP to me most of the time, sometimes even surpasses it (not saying everyone will see it as I do)

*Any slight difference in perceived sharpness of a DLP is actually just the smoother image of the JVC, and in most cases I prefer the smoother image

*There are a few traits I still like about DLP's, but I'm not complaining overall

*For gaming some people might like DLP better, but it depends on what kind of games you play, IMO better for gaming than LCD's, but depends on the LCD and the game

*I have not experienced any brightness loss that is abnormal yet, and I haven't heard of any lamp issues YET, but no-one has had the projector long enough YET

*Motorized controls work great, some people have said the lens memory isn't perfectly accurate every time, but it's not way off and it's easy to adjust manually afterwards (easier than not having it)

*Projector is whisper quiet in Low Lamp (a scary is my projector broken quiet), a bit louder in HIGH lamp but it's a whir sound and not terrible

*Colors are good OOTB, but mine did drift a little, most people probably won't notice this, in a split screen it's noticeable but that's about it

*RS-45 very near the equal of the RS-35 in a real world scenario according to an RS-35 owner, and the RS-35 MSRP was $10,000

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Yes it looks better in dark scenes than the Epsons, yes it is sharper (at least than every Epson I've seen), and yes it beats the pants off the Panny 7000 for everything but maybe 3D (even then it's questionable since the Panny could ghost as well).
post #1984 of 4435
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Originally Posted by Axel View Post

Could those be some sort of sparklies, i.e. you are exceeding the bandwidth capabilities of the signal chain (cable?).
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Axel

Thanks for you idea. But I've tried two completely different sources, different cables, etc. Any bandwidth issues would come to light at 1080p/60, and that's works fine. The same setup noted below worked for the RS40.

For instance, my standard setup:
-HTPC with Nvidia GTS450, to Onkyo AVR to RS45 or Panasonic 60ST30.
-LG player with different HDMI cable direct to HDMI2 of RS45.

With the RS45 as the display device, in either case, I get the above somewhat "double" image.

This is a software issue or something on the RS45.
post #1985 of 4435
I have to say that 98% of the time I'm glad I bought the JVC instead of the Benq w7000, the other 2% of the time I'm trying to watch 3D

Since I'm not sure if DLP really solves all the issues I have with 3D (peripheral blur, depth inconsistencies), then I cannot even say that I'd be satisfied with 3D on the DLP either due to the inconsistent camera work in 3D. I will enjoy 3D more when the holograms are dancing around my room instead of trying to struggle to pop out of the screen. To me the depth inconsistency and peripheral blur are bigger problems than the ghosting, but maybe they are partly related (not sure)...

It was close for me, the w7000 vs. the RS-45, always been a DLP guy, not anymore, yee haw, I didn't think I'd ever say it but this projector beats most DLP's overall :P
Plus the DLP selection these days is too limited.
post #1986 of 4435
I see a lot of talk about adjusting the PS3 settings, but is anyone using a HTPC? With a nvidia card, the only option I see (aside from resolution) is setting the digital color format to either RGB or YCbCr444. Not sure which one is better? I have the RS45 set to hdmi enhanced (I believe this is best for HTPC and I also have a PS3).
post #1987 of 4435
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

I always wanted to own an RS-35, but I couldn't get myself to spend the $5000 or so for a used projector without a warranty, now with the RS-45 it feels like I do own an RS-35, except you also get 3D and a bit brighter image and a warranty for almost half the price!

This is a great unit for the price, that is for sure
post #1988 of 4435
So just a quick update on the issues I was having with my RS-45 the other night. I spent a good while on the phone with JVC support yesterday and they suspect the HDMI board on my unit is dead, which is why I cannot get anything through the HDMI ports but the Component in works fine. Very strange, and I cannot get in touch with the actual repair/replace department until Tuesday, so I am just using the Component in until then.

I am going to fight for a replacement since this happened with my7 pj being less than 10 days old, but we will see what happens.
post #1989 of 4435
If you ordered it from AVS or any dealer, I assume they can help you deal with it because it is less than 30 days old. I would think you get an automatic exchange and wouldn't even have to contact JVC anymore. You already have confirmation there is a major problem, I think that's all you usually need.
post #1990 of 4435
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Originally Posted by paradigm View Post

OMG yes. I thought I was the only one with this issue. Even tho I only have the 1 projector my room gets so hot with all the equipment turned on. My theater room is above a garage.

Do not be afraid to have your gear anywhere in your home !! Not with this IR system below.

Any one wanting to control there gear when its in another room or your neighbors house Needs to look at this piece. Our gear runs thru 2 floors, countless walls, and about 200FT of space. Under $75 too ! >>>> This is the BOMB ! Next Generation Remote Control Extender >>> Click Here Unsurpassed Gear !

The system we had was just thrown together due to being to busy and not exactly knowing what we wanted. We did purchase a Panasonic TH-8512UK. Then Sharp had to go ahead and release the LC-80LE632U After 10 hours of install work, finally a clean set up. All Audio /Video gear was moved a different area, a basement. HDMI outlet installed on lower part of wall for easy access for quick connect for other devises. ( One would be correct in thinking the center channel IS NOT staying where it is in the photo. )

Sharp LC-80LE632U
Swan 2.3B
Onkyo PR SC5508 PrePro
Red Dragon Class D 1000 watt mono blocks ( front mains )
Emotiva XPA 3 Class A/B 200 watt X 3 ( Center, rears )





post #1991 of 4435
Yup, those do work good. I actually had bought that same one but it didn't work with one of my remotes (worked with most of them), so instead I got this one:

http://www.amazon.com/X-10-POWERMID-...4759550&sr=1-2

Note I probably would try the NextGEN one first as it has better range, I only ordered the triangle one because it was compatible with all my remotes.

BTW, those are some nice looking speakers there, wow.
post #1992 of 4435
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

If you ordered it from AVS or any dealer, I assume they can help you deal with it because it is less than 30 days old. I would think you get an automatic exchange and wouldn't even have to contact JVC anymore. You already have confirmation there is a major problem, I think that's all you usually need.

AVS is where I purchased it, but I was told that I was past the date that they can help me with the issue and I had to go to JVC. I believe that AVS policy is less than 30 days. I believe that Mike also contacted JVC on my behalf and has been VERY helpful as well.
post #1993 of 4435
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Originally Posted by vullcan View Post

I see a lot of talk about adjusting the PS3 settings, but is anyone using a HTPC? With a nvidia card, the only option I see (aside from resolution) is setting the digital color format to either RGB or YCbCr444. Not sure which one is better? I have the RS45 set to hdmi enhanced (I believe this is best for HTPC and I also have a PS3).

So your Nvidia doesn't offer limited RGB (16-235)? I suggest you set it to limited if it exist? Use standard HDMI on the JVC.
What type of software player do you use? If using Media player classic home cinema. Make sure to change the output to 16-235 in the Media player's options.
post #1994 of 4435
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Do not be afraid to have your gear anywhere in your home !! Not with this IR system below.



Does that setup come with highchairs or do you stand up to view?
post #1995 of 4435
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

LOL, that was my second choice, I did not know which on to get

You got the right one, the Nextgen has a much increased range, I was stuck with the Pyramid because of this irritating Phillips Universal Remote, but now I'm about to buy a new remote anyhow.
post #1996 of 4435
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Originally Posted by Owen View Post

Does that setup come with highchairs or do you stand up to view?

See Below, here we go again.......

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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

^^^ My neck has never hurt and "some kind" of unit has been hung like that for 3 years. Then again when I sit down, I relax and my body is not at all near 90 degrees from my legs to back. So the angle is just fine. Another great thing we have as humans in the ability to move our eyes up and down without moving our head or neck. If the fireplace was not there I would personally mount it about 6"-12" lower and that's it.

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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

True; a good ergonomic principle important for work station computer screens as well. That said, the OP stated that, like many folks, he is not seated with "proper" upright posture when he's relaxed and enjoying a film so his head and eyes are naturally angled up towards that screen.

I have a recliner for MLP. So I'd actually like my screen a bit higher than seated eye level for viewing confort. And then another bonus is that I could put the CC in a better spot (under instead of over the screen), but I'm constrained by my current cabinet.

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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

Yup, those do work good. I actually had bought that same one but it didn't work with one of my remotes (worked with most of them), so instead I got this one:

http://www.amazon.com/X-10-POWERMID-...4759550&sr=1-2

Note I probably would try the NextGEN one first as it has better range, I only ordered the triangle one because it was compatible with all my remotes.

BTW, those are some nice looking speakers there, wow.

LOL, that was my second choice, I did not know which on to get
post #1997 of 4435
I want to thank Mike at AVS for making it a Merry Christmas for me. I had the misfortune of receiving a defective RS45. Mike did an excellent job working with the distributor to quickly get me a replacement. I didn't think there was any chance of receiving it before Christmas. The replacement arrived 2 days after I reported the problem!

Thanks Mike!
post #1998 of 4435
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Originally Posted by vullcan View Post

I see a lot of talk about adjusting the PS3 settings, but is anyone using a HTPC? With a nvidia card, the only option I see (aside from resolution) is setting the digital color format to either RGB or YCbCr444. Not sure which one is better? I have the RS45 set to hdmi enhanced (I believe this is best for HTPC and I also have a PS3).

I have my HTPC running XBMC with DSplayer and lav filters. I use hdmi limited on the HTPC and hdmi enhanced on the JVC (brightness -6 contrast +13) and everything looks amazing. Deep and dark blacks with plenty of shadow detail. The contrast is spectacular.
post #1999 of 4435
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Originally Posted by selahsean View Post

I have my HTPC running XBMC with DSplayer and lav filters. I use hdmi limited on the HTPC and hdmi enhanced on the JVC (brightness -6 contrast +13) and everything looks amazing. Deep and dark blacks with plenty of shadow detail. The contrast is spectacular.

I'm curious Sean if you've watched the demo video for contrast in the Windows Media Center's settings?
We use different software and different screens I'm sure. Just wondering how that white shirt looks on your display?
post #2000 of 4435
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Originally Posted by kertofer View Post

AVS is where I purchased it, but I was told that I was past the date that they can help me with the issue and I had to go to JVC. I believe that AVS policy is less than 30 days. I believe that Mike also contacted JVC on my behalf and has been VERY helpful as well.

Shoot me an email with your case number and I can talk to JVC again on Tuesday.
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post #2001 of 4435
Nothing to worry about, but for you guys saying I was nuts for thinking I saw a gamma error, check this out:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attac...5&d=1324742582

It might be a side effect of using the wide1 color space, which is the mode the guy took the reading in and was also the mode I was using temporarily until I get a new meter to re-do everything.
post #2002 of 4435
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Originally Posted by Joesyah View Post


I'm curious Sean if you've watched the demo video for contrast in the Windows Media Center's settings?
We use different software and different screens I'm sure. Just wondering how that white shirt looks on your display?

I haven't used media center, but I'm projecting on Carada Brilliant White 138" diagonal 2.05:1 on normal lamp. Using the AVS disc with the white clipping pattern #236 just barely flashes for me. Whites in normal viewing look outstanding. I can see light shading against very bright backgrounds i.e. wrinkles in white shirts. Also the shadow detail is amazing as I'm picking out details in movies like The Dark Knight I hadn't seen before on my Samsung DLP.
post #2003 of 4435
Does everyone's units have slightly bright corners, mine does, but it's not a big deal, I don't notice it in movies except in all black transitions. The one Zombie is testing also has this, and the one Kris Deering saw also has bright corners, so I guess it's normal.

We are very lucky with any LCOS for shadow detail, because shadow detail is basically a function of native contrast and gamma. The ability for the projector to delineate the shades in the darker scenes to a wider range, it can't do this if the native contrast isn't high enough.
post #2004 of 4435
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Originally Posted by selahsean View Post

I haven't used media center, but I'm projecting on Carada Brilliant White 138" diagonal 2.05:1 on normal lamp. Using the AVS disc with the white clipping pattern #236 just barely flashes for me. Whites in normal viewing look outstanding. I can see light shading against very bright backgrounds i.e. wrinkles in white shirts. Also the shadow detail is amazing as I'm picking out details in movies like The Dark Knight I hadn't seen before on my Samsung DLP.


Ok I gotcha, yeah I'm on a 120" and get white clipping at 252.
post #2005 of 4435
Joe,

Do you have the slightly bright corners issue, just curious?
post #2006 of 4435
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

Joe,

Do you have the slightly bright corners issue, just curious?

I'll check and let you know.
post #2007 of 4435
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Originally Posted by kertofer View Post

AVS is where I purchased it, but I was told that I was past the date that they can help me with the issue and I had to go to JVC. I believe that AVS policy is less than 30 days. I believe that Mike also contacted JVC on my behalf and has been VERY helpful as well.

How many hours do you have on it?
post #2008 of 4435
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

Does everyone's units have slightly bright corners, mine does, but it's not a big deal, I don't notice it in movies except in all black transitions. The one Zombie is testing also has this, and the one Kris Deering saw also has bright corners, so I guess it's normal.

We are very lucky with any LCOS for shadow detail, because shadow detail is basically a function of native contrast and gamma. The ability for the projector to delineate the shades in the darker scenes to a wider range, it can't do this if the native contrast isn't high enough.

I do, with the lower right being a tad brighter. But like you say, not an issue in any way (even in the blackest of scenes).
post #2009 of 4435
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

Joe,

Do you have the slightly bright corners issue, just curious?

I checked it out, me and the GF both agree, black is uniform across my screen. Corners don't look light here.
post #2010 of 4435
Here's a good way to check for bright corners and uniformity issues. Take a piece of white paper, hold it a few inches in front of the lens and press the hide button.
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