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post #331 of 4181
Toe. The emitter is the same as last year's. An emitter is a slave repeater that changes an electrical sync to an IR sync or in some cases an RF signal sync. An emitter can add timing and pulse options in essence allowing changes to more limited controls (3D brightness sync changes) offered in all 3D projetors. An emitter could be changed to be stronger but that's about it. The JVC emitter is plenty robust already.
post #332 of 4181
mark h can you post a link to the mini so I can have a look?
post #333 of 4181
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

I will be sure to post my initial impressions tom night or Sat morning. I will be using Xpand 103s and the first gen JVC 3d glasses (which were identical performance wise on my non polarization preserving HP screen) at first, but might try out some 104s (or 2nd gen JVCs) depending on the reports. The emitter is the same as last years, correct?

I think you should sell last years glasses. JVC claims the new ones are faster and better.
post #334 of 4181
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 4 View Post

And I am an owner. I am not trying to sell them by this posts. Just reporting what one very happy owner things about it. And everybody I cause to buy it, calls or emails me thanking me for the rrecommendation with a comment to the efect that they didn't believe before they got it how much better it made there projector. Have I made myself clear. Crystal I hope. Now where is that wall?

mark, you don't have to convince me, I am 1 step away from calling you next week to order. the price is killer and I already have Chromapure and the Chroma 5 pro. I'd much prefer the auto-cal, spending countless hours calibrating has me bored to tears.

I have to check with Thrang to see if it's ok using his HTPC as the source. I recall hearing that the mini3D wasn't recognizing the HTPC's as a 3D source, but this was some time ago.
post #335 of 4181
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 4 View Post

There sems to be some sort of misconception thast one would buy a Mini only if they wanted a CMS and their projector didn't have one of if their projector had one that was less than ideal.

I have repeatedly stated that a Lumagen will raise the level of almost any projector even if one didn't use the CMS system at all.

With respect to the CMS it allows besides nail the chromacity points it allows 21 point gray scale and gama adjustments. Most projectors don't.

Outside the CMS there are so many things most projectors can't do.

All sorts of noise and sharpness and texture controls. Ring free scaling and man does that make an obvious improvement. Deinterlacing with incredible sharpness at the cost of a little extra comb filtering and even then you have a choice of the defree of trade off between the two. The list goes on and on. and I am not going to debate it herebecause it is not debatable. I have had more projectors thasn Zombie, from inexpensive to expensive and the Lumagen has never failed to improve any of them.

At the presenty sale price of a Mini, its an absolute no brainer and if anyone thinks differently they are dead wrong. Over the hundreds I have sold, not one has returned it.

I am not going to try and determine if the choice should be a 45 and a mini or a 55 which would cost a hundreds more. I would add a mini to a 55 too. When I get a new projector, I just hook up the mini to it. Like the energizer bunny it just lasts and lasts elevating that new purchase.

And I am an owner. I am not trying to sell them by this posts. Just reporting what one very happy owner things about it. And everybody I cause to buy it, calls or emails me thanking me for the rrecommendation with a comment to the efect that they didn't believe before they got it how much better it made there projector. Have I made myself clear. Crystal I hope. Now where is that wall?

Hundreds? I didn't even know they made that many.
post #336 of 4181
The Lumagen sounds good, just need to conserve for those JVC lamp prices :P
post #337 of 4181
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

bring it on brother ..




Definitely one of the first discs I will throw at the 45!

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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

I think you should sell last years glasses. JVC claims the new ones are faster and better.

Early reports (I think it was Jon in the UK thread?) claims ghosting is identical between last years/this years. It does sound like the new ones are a bit brighter though and more comfortable which would be great. Curious to read more comparisons though at which point I might grab a pair. Have you read anything to suggest the new glasses might reduce ghosting somehow?

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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 4 View Post

Toe. The mitter is the same as last year's. An emitter is a slave repeater that changes an electrical sync to an IR sync or in some cases an RF signal. An emitter can add timing and puls options in essence allowing changes to more limited controls (3D brightness sync changes) offered in all 3D projetors. An emitter could change to be stronger but that's about it. The JVC emitter is plenty robust already.

Thanks for the confirmation Mark. Glad we dont have to buy a different emitter!

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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

this one works great and it's pretty cheap

http://www.amazon.com/Mastech-Digita...=5336055023-20

Thanks Jason. What are the main advantages of this meter vs the $15 meter linked in the lamp experiment thread?
post #338 of 4181
me have money...me no have brain to hook up mini. Me have mini brain.
post #339 of 4181
What (3) 3d discs should I order that have re-playability factor and aren't ghost city on the JVC?
post #340 of 4181
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Thanks Jason. What are the main advantages of this meter vs the $15 meter linked in the lamp experiment thread?

There isn't likely any advantage, it's probably going to perform the same as all the other meters. I have that $35 meter, a $130 meter and borrowed one from work that is several hundred dollars and they are all nearly identical in lux measurements.


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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

What (3) 3d discs should I order that have re-playability factor and aren't ghost city on the JVC?

Despicable Me is a favorite with good repeat-ability, great 3D, especially the roller coaster scene, but the ghosting can be pretty noticeable on this title. When the lamp is new, it's ok.

Avatar 3D is good to show off the new projector (I can't ever watch this again, wayy too many times) and there is hardly any ghosting.

Under the Sea - this is a great documentary and some good popouts.

The ultimate 3D disk out of some 40+ that I have is Sammy's adventures. I know I keep repeating this, but the 3D is sick.. depth and popouts the entire movie, you don't know what to look at first. it's a shame this has to be imported, but I think it's worth the hassle. This disk smokes the majority of the other 3D titles I have.

Music Concert - Peter Gabriele in london with the 'New Blood Orchestra' - if anyone likes PG, this a must have disk. The DTS-HD 7.1 is unreal and the 3D is very cool, you are sitting right next to the violin players, etc. They re-arranged his music with a modern orchestra.. very cool.
post #341 of 4181
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

There isn't likely any advantage, it's probably going to perform the same as all the other meters. I have that $35 meter, a $130 meter and borrowed one from work that is several hundred dollars and they are all nearly identical in lux measurements.




Music Concert - Peter Gabriele in london with the 'New Blood Orchestra' - if anyone likes PG, this a must have disk. The DTS-HD 7.1 is unreal and the 3D is very cool, you are sitting right next to the violin players, etc. They re-arranged his music with a modern orchestra.. very cool.

Cool, thanks. I will grab one of the two meters.

I have this Peter Gabriel 3d disc on the way and should get it any day now. Glad to hear it is a good one! Have all his DVD concerts and they are killer.

Still need to spring for Sammy's Adventure!
post #342 of 4181
At least get the 200,000 lux one though, don't get the 50,000 lux one, I mean only a $20 difference in price.
The LX1330B is the one to get for a cheap one.
post #343 of 4181
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

Cool, thanks. I will grab one of the two meters.

I have this Peter Gabriel 3d disc on the way and should get it any day now. Glad to hear it is a good one! Have all his DVD concerts and they are killer.

Still need to spring for Sammy's Adventure!

the 3D PG disk comes alive @ track 18 > 'Red Rain', then 'Solesbury hill' -> 'In your eyes' like you never heard it before.

it's good to hear the lens memory is accurate, this sounds like it will work great on your screen.
post #344 of 4181
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

At least get the 200,000 lux one though, don't get the 50,000 lux one, I mean only a $20 difference in price.

50,000 vs. 200,000 is not worth worrying about.

If you have an itty bitty 60 inch diagonal screen, then 50,000 lux is equal to about 50,000 lumens (nearly 200,000 lumens for a 120 inch screen). That would be one hell of a projector. Certainly none of the JVCs in the lamp measurement project can even do one tenth of that.
post #345 of 4181
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

the 3D PG disk comes alive @ track 18 > 'Red Rain', then 'Solesbury hill' -> 'In your eyes' like you never heard it before.

it's good to hear the lens memory is accurate, this sounds like it will work great on your screen.

Nice! Cant wait to hear/ see it. I have a sub amp coming tom as well so my audio should be back to 100% sometime this weekend.

Lens memory was my big motivation to upgrade so hoping it is accurate like the early reports are indicating.
post #346 of 4181
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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

waiting for TOE assessment of the RS45. Are you guys buying the new jvc emitter and the new jvc glasses? Or is there a better set of glasses out there? If there is please inform.

As far as i know the emitter PK-EM1 is the same as last year.

For the glasses i now own the old PK-AG1, the new PK-AG2 and i also ordered Xpand X104s.

The new PK-AG2 glasses are much lighter and more comfortable to wear and use rechargeable batteries instead of lithium batteries.

The downside of the new glasses is the smaler fied of view due to the shrunken size.

The XPand X104s are supposed to arrive next week. I can tell you more about them in comparison to the PK-AG1 & 2 then.
post #347 of 4181
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

OK, we both know better then to debate this again, but it seems like a lot of people's lamps failed between 600 to 900.
I just hope I get decent lamp life. Going to be very careful about how many times I turn on/off the projector, the temperature I use it at, and the UPS with AVR that it is hooked up to.

I am seriously considering the purchase of the RS45 but all this lamp-life discussion is making me skittish. I have a mountain of bulbs from the current Sony VW60 I am replacing and I use my projector for movies, TV, gaming, surfing, and with my HTPC as my nearly full-time monitor. The Sony lamps have consistently given me long life (~2k hours before they are too dim to use) even if they start to dim quickly - but to be fair my 138" screen is demanding with a 16' throw distance (light controlled all-black theater) to a Carada screen.

I can't imagine if I have to burn through even more expensive lamps at an accelerated rate due to shorter life and compounded by potential catastrophic lamp failures. That would make my RS45 VERY expensive to own. At this point I'm thinking the JVC projectors may not be a good choice for my needs. I'm sensitive to RBE so the DLP's are pretty much out of the hunt. That leaves the Sony 30 or the Epson 5010 back on my short list... maybe even go to a higher level price point if necessary...
post #348 of 4181
The JVC lamp scares me as well, but I have another projector to use for TV use, so the JVC is just for movies.
I would probably go with the Sony hw30 otherwise, maybe the 5010 but LCOS has a more film-like and smoother image, despite LCD having almost no SDE these days. You probably wouldn't see much RBE on a 6x color wheel though if the Benq w7000 has that.

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Originally Posted by jim2100 View Post

50,000 vs. 200,000 is not worth worrying about.

Not because of that, it's because the lx1330b one is just better and should be able to take some basic contrast readings as well.
post #349 of 4181
Are there any Canadians here that got at least a call from any Canadian dealer advising them that their RS45 has arrived and/or shipped?

Just curious...it seems only our neighbors in the US have gotten their calls notifying them that their unit is shipping.
I'm telling ya, it's not easy being Canadian

Man I can't wait to get mine!

Sorry for the little rant

as per above (sorry I can not do the quote/unquote)

I got mine (X30) yesterday.
It is freaking big compare to my Epson 1080.

Ray
post #350 of 4181
Hey guys will AVS stick to the same pre-order price of the RS45? Will the price be higher if I order a month or two from now?
post #351 of 4181
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

Not because of that, it's because the lx1330b one is just better and should be able to take contrast readings as well.

Do you know what the resolution is? I cannot find the spec for resolution on the LX1330B, but the lowest scale is 200 lux, so I am guessing it reads in 0.1 lux increments.

For a rather small 82 inch diagonal 16:9 screen, one of the new JVC projectors should measure around 500 lux.

So that gives a dynamic range for the LX1330B light meter of about 500 / 0.1 = 5000.

More than enough for ANSI contrast measurements, but quite a bit short of the 50,000 or so needed for native contrast measurements.

I think it would require a much more sensitive (and expensive) light meter to do decent native contrast measurements. Although I suppose you could try holding the light meter much nearer to the projector. I'm not sure how valid the measurement would be in that case. It would be interesting if someone who does have a sensitive meter could measure the contrast at the screen, and then try a cheap meter and measure the contrast with the meter near the projector.
post #352 of 4181
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Originally Posted by Fatshaft View Post

Are there any Canadians here that got at least a call from any Canadian dealer advising them that their RS45 has arrived and/or shipped?

Just curious...it seems only our neighbors in the US have gotten their calls notifying them that their unit is shipping.
I'm telling ya, it's not easy being Canadian

Man I can't wait to get mine!

Sorry for the little rant

I received my x30 yesterday, shipped last week.
post #353 of 4181
People keep saying that the Sony bulbs are much cheaper than the JVC bulbs. But Pureland has the Sony bulb for $589 and the JVC bulb for $442. The bulb for the RS45 is the same as the RS40, yes? This is an important consideration for me. We use the projector as our full time tv. At least 3k hours a year. What am i missing?
Thanks,
Jason
post #354 of 4181
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Originally Posted by SED <--- Rules View Post

Hey guys will AVS stick to the same pre-order price of the RS45? Will the price be higher if I order a month or two from now?

I would imagine the pre-order is over but I'm sure the guys at AVS will give you a very good deal. Call them and find out. I'm sure not all those who pre-ordered will follow through with their orders so there may be a few RS-45s available from this initial shipment.
post #355 of 4181
I've seen some people mention that JVC has gone on record as saying the bulb failures were not as prevalent in the general population of owners as they seem to have been amongst AVS users. I've also seen mention of the idea that perhaps JVC is unaware of the alarming amount of bulb failures which have been reported by users here on the avs forums, implying that JVC is not in the know about the AVS forums.

Well out of curiousity last night I contacted:

Display Division National Sales Manager:
Bill Birdsall

and asked him if he could give me the contact info for a local JVC authorized dealer around my area (for some reason when I put my zip code into JVC's dealer locator online it simply gave me Mr. Birdsall's info). Well to my surprise Mr. Birdsall simply told me to contact AVS and order from them. He asked if I was aware of the AVS forums and I said of course and he then suggested ordering from them. So this without a doubt means that JVC is familar with the AVS forums.... whether or not they monitor them to see how their projector owners are talking about their products I do not know, but they are surely aware of the forums.

Just thought I'd share that info.
post #356 of 4181
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Originally Posted by scoobygt68 View Post

I've seen some people mention that JVC has gone on record as saying the bulb failures were not as prevalent in the general population of owners as they seem to have been amongst AVS users. I've also seen mention of the idea that perhaps JVC is unaware of the alarming amount of bulb failures which have been reported by users here on the avs forums, implying that JVC is not in the know about the AVS forums.

Well out of curiousity last night I contacted:

Display Division National Sales Manager:
Bill Birdsall

and asked him if he could give me the contact info for a local JVC authorized dealer around my area (for some reason when I put my zip code into JVC's dealer locator online it simply gave me Mr. Birdsall's info). Well to my surprise Mr. Birdsall simply told me to contact AVS and order from them. He asked if I was aware of the AVS forums and I said of course and he then suggested ordering from them. So this without a doubt means that JVC is familar with the AVS forums.... whether or not they monitor them to see how their projector owners are talking about their products I do not know, but they are surely aware of the forums.

Just thought I'd share that info.

yes and Bill Birdsall is a nice man. I had an issue on my RS2 years ago. When I bought the rs20 he sent me a free bulb for my troubles. A very good spokeman for the JVC and AVS crowd.
post #357 of 4181
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Originally Posted by jasonDono View Post

People keep saying that the Sony bulbs are much cheaper than the JVC bulbs. But Pureland has the Sony bulb for $589 and the JVC bulb for $442. The bulb for the RS45 is the same as the RS40, yes? This is an important consideration for me. We use the projector as our full time tv. At least 3k hours a year. What am i missing?
Thanks,
Jason

I dont know where your looking but the jvc bulb can be had for a tad over 100
post #358 of 4181
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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

I dont know where your looking but the jvc bulb can be had for a tad over 100

I told you where I was looking, Pureland.com. Where are you looking?
Thanks.
post #359 of 4181
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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

I dont know where your looking but the jvc bulb can be had for a tad over 100

just over 100, were are you getting these from?
post #360 of 4181
Called Benito yesterday. He said my RS45 will be shipping soon even though I just preordered a couple weeks ago. Asked him about 2:35to1 screens for this proj. Anyone planning on zooming with this proj. ? Do you think that will work well with 3D?
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