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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Gary Reber is very particular and if a product does not perform, he will let you know: http://darbeevision.com/assets/documents/Darblet_Review_Gary_Reber_July_Aug_2012.pdf

As I stated I'm not attacking Darbee. And his opinion doesn't really relate to my comparisons on my equipment... configured using various options such as Detail Enhance. I remember way back when (in '09) Pioneer Blu-ray players had a similar feature (Detail something or another) and everyone dismissed it as image pumping and I found it as in improvement.

I also tried Darbee on my 61" set via my HTPC. If the video card was set to Adaptive Contrast anything the Darbee applied was pretty much over the top. If I disabled it in the card and told the set to to do Dynamic Contrast 2 or 3 (up to 4 levels) again whatever Darbee applied was over the top... approaching torch mode. If I keep both disabled I would appreciate Darbee. Again, I'm not saying it isn't a great tool... I simply think other tools offer similar advantages... without side effects as well such as ringing.
post #4292 of 4435
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

As I stated I'm not attacking Darbee. And his opinion doesn't really relate to my comparisons on my equipment... configured using various options such as Detail Enhance. I remember way back when (in '09) Pioneer Blu-ray players had a similar feature (Detail something or another) and everyone dismissed it as image pumping and I found it as in improvement.

I also tried Darbee on my 61" set via my HTPC. If the video card was set to Adaptive Contrast anything the Darbee applied was pretty much over the top. If I disabled it in the card and told the set to to do Dynamic Contrast 2 or 3 (up to 4 levels) again whatever Darbee applied was over the top... approaching torch mode. If I keep both disabled I would appreciate Darbee. Again, I'm not saying it isn't a great tool... I simply think other tools offer similar advantages... without side effects as well such as ringing.

No problem. smile.gif
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post #4293 of 4435
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Originally Posted by Seegs108 View Post

I'm surprised Zombie hasn't done an in depth picture close up comparison yet. biggrin.gif

hmm.. never though to do that... smile.gifbiggrin.gif

Darbee + E-shift close up look

I keep the darbee relatively low with most of my projectors, 25%, sometimes 30%
post #4294 of 4435
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Originally Posted by obie_fl View Post

I use a Darbee with my RS45 and I think the difference it makes is still significant. YMMV. Haven't really played with Detail Enhance since installing but remember not caring for it. I like the Darbee effect as long as you don't set it too high.

With the Sony VW85, it was set at 50-55 while the RS45 at 40% was still too much. I did not reduce it any further. That 50-55 setting was fine with older JVC and Sony models, i.e., VW60, HW20 and RS10.

I sit at 2x screen distance.
post #4295 of 4435
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Originally Posted by johng View Post

My experience with the Darbee and the RS45 was exactly the opposite of yours. In my installation it made a big difference. I wouldn't want to watch a film without it. As my wife put it, "It's like someone lifted a veil from the image". Check out Gary Reber's comments about it in Widescreen Review. Reber is pretty demanding and he absolutely LOVES his Darblett. I recently replaced my RS45 with an RS4810, and found that the combination of the Darblett plus JVC's "eShift" technology makes a very positive upgrade.

It should be noted that our primary viewing is 1x screen width (i.e. 8.5'). This may have a bearing upon the value of the Darbee and the eShift technology.

From my other reply, Darbee worked well with my earlier models, but I found the RS45 so sharp that the Darbee did not add much value. I still can see the "veil" being lifted, but not as significant as the older ones, even at 2x screen distance.
post #4296 of 4435
I find that some movies I turn the Darbee off for with my RS45. Some look great, and others look like crap, but it isn't the Darbee's fault. If a movie is filmed with a lot of film grain, then the Darbee enhances that and I don't care for it. One that comes to mind is the movie The Grey. It should have been named 'The Grain' instead, and I had to just turn off the Darbee.

Overall it looks good and I like it.
post #4297 of 4435
In mid-June my JVC RS-45 projector developed a problem and started randomly shutting down and could not be restarted without unplugging/replugging as well as an apparent related lamp problem (new bulb but still not bright). I sent the unit in to get repairs under the JVC warranty to the company they "outsource" to called Mendtronix. I sent the projector in and it was received by Mentronix on June 27th... it is now August 1st and they still apparently haven't even started repairs and the only response I can get from them is a "parts shortage" excuse. Still no hint at when they will even have available parts to begin the repairs - it does seem likely it will be at least two months without my projector and possibly longer.

Caution to anyone with a RS-45 or considering a new JVC model that you may be without your projector for months if you need repairs - apparently they don't feel any urgency to get repairs done in a timely fashion.

I will probably not buy another JVC product because of this very poor service and just wanted others to be aware of what they too may face.
post #4298 of 4435
I've read quite a few stories like you regarding JVC's warranty CS.

What a way to lose potential customers and long time customers.
post #4299 of 4435
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Originally Posted by fleaman View Post

I've read quite a few stories like you regarding JVC's warranty CS.

What a way to lose potential customers and long time customers.

I certainly have to agree with that sentiment and Mendtronix is blaming JVC for not having available parts for the repair - so this is perhaps concerning to anyone purchasing any JVC projector model if it really is a manufacturer issue.
post #4300 of 4435
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Originally Posted by mnn1265 View Post

In mid-June my JVC RS-45 projector developed a problem and started randomly shutting down and could not be restarted without unplugging/replugging as well as an apparent related lamp problem (new bulb but still not bright). I sent the unit in to get repairs under the JVC warranty to the company they "outsource" to called Mendtronix. I sent the projector in and it was received by Mentronix on June 27th... it is now August 1st and they still apparently haven't even started repairs and the only response I can get from them is a "parts shortage" excuse. Still no hint at when they will even have available parts to begin the repairs - it does seem likely it will be at least two months without my projector and possibly longer.

Caution to anyone with a RS-45 or considering a new JVC model that you may be without your projector for months if you need repairs - apparently they don't feel any urgency to get repairs done in a timely fashion.

I will probably not buy another JVC product because of this very poor service and just wanted others to be aware of what they too may face.

I would hope that our friends at AVS follow this and other JVC threads and are advising the rep from JVC about the potential trend to a fading following of the faithful. Great black levels can only go so far with the fans.
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Originally Posted by mnn1265 View Post

In mid-June my JVC RS-45 projector developed a problem and started randomly shutting down and could not be restarted without unplugging/replugging as well as an apparent related lamp problem (new bulb but still not bright). I sent the unit in to get repairs under the JVC warranty to the company they "outsource" to called Mendtronix. I sent the projector in and it was received by Mentronix on June 27th... it is now August 1st and they still apparently haven't even started repairs and the only response I can get from them is a "parts shortage" excuse. Still no hint at when they will even have available parts to begin the repairs - it does seem likely it will be at least two months without my projector and possibly longer.

Caution to anyone with a RS-45 or considering a new JVC model that you may be without your projector for months if you need repairs - apparently they don't feel any urgency to get repairs done in a timely fashion.

I will probably not buy another JVC product because of this very poor service and just wanted others to be aware of what they too may face.

Have you contacted your dealer to see if they can help?
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post #4302 of 4435
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Originally Posted by mnn1265 View Post

In mid-June my JVC RS-45 projector developed a problem and started randomly shutting down and could not be restarted without unplugging/replugging as well as an apparent related lamp problem (new bulb but still not bright). I sent the unit in to get repairs under the JVC warranty to the company they "outsource" to called Mendtronix. I sent the projector in and it was received by Mentronix on June 27th... it is now August 1st and they still apparently haven't even started repairs and the only response I can get from them is a "parts shortage" excuse. Still no hint at when they will even have available parts to begin the repairs - it does seem likely it will be at least two months without my projector and possibly longer.

Caution to anyone with a RS-45 or considering a new JVC model that you may be without your projector for months if you need repairs - apparently they don't feel any urgency to get repairs done in a timely fashion.

I will probably not buy another JVC product because of this very poor service and just wanted others to be aware of what they too may face.

Not what I wanted to hear, given that my RS55 is currently at Mendtronix. It only got assigned a technician a couple days ago so too early to tell how it will go. Hopefully we both hear some good news soon.
post #4303 of 4435
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Originally Posted by 5mark View Post

Not what I wanted to hear, given that my RS55 is currently at Mendtronix. It only got assigned a technician a couple days ago so too early to tell how it will go. Hopefully we both hear some good news soon.

What happened to your projector?
post #4304 of 4435
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

What happened to your projector?
It froze up 3 times in 3 months, twice when changing hdmi inputs. The freezes led to start up issues and warning lights. Fun stuff. On the plus side, the lamp was still going strong after 1200 hours.
post #4305 of 4435
I posted this in the RS40/X3 thread, but maybe someone here has an answer...
Is anyone using the "remote control" input on the rear of the pj? I can't get it to work even when I try a short cable. I have a xantech 784-44 connecting block. When I plug my X3 into one of the emitter jacks I get a yellow light on the block. Does the X3 have a high impedance IR input maybe? Perhaps I need an amplified block like the xantech 791-44 instead.
post #4306 of 4435
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Have you contacted your dealer to see if they can help?

I haven't contacted you at AVS (my dealer OF COURSE!) about this issue but do you think there's anything that you could assist with?
post #4307 of 4435
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Originally Posted by mnn1265 View Post

I haven't contacted you at AVS (my dealer OF COURSE!) about this issue but do you think there's anything that you could assist with?

Shoot me an email with your info and I will see what I can do.
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post #4308 of 4435
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

it's correct, the optoma RF glasses will work with the MV3D transmitter.

This company is the OEM for Monster and Optoma

http://bitcauldron.com/blog/3d-glasses-products/

It appears that the BC6000 is the replacement model for the BC5000 ( MonsterVision glasses)

This looks like the Optoma version of the BC6000;

http://www.amazon.com/Optoma-BG-ZF2100GLS-Active-Shutter-Glasses/dp/B008PQJXFO/ref=pd_sim_e_3

They get a lot of good reviews, my question is anyone know if will they work with the stock JVC X30 /RS45 emitter?
post #4309 of 4435
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Shoot me an email with your info and I will see what I can do.
Please do let me know if you find out anything.

The Mendtronix representative is ignoring my contacts at this point so perhaps I'll contact JVC to see if I can get anything out of them. I've heard from a few others that have received similar "parts shortage" delays (RS-45 and RS-55) so it may be a more widespread issue.
post #4310 of 4435
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Originally Posted by Socio View Post

It appears that the BC6000 is the replacement model for the BC5000 ( MonsterVision glasses)

This looks like the Optoma version of the BC6000;

http://www.amazon.com/Optoma-BG-ZF2100GLS-Active-Shutter-Glasses/dp/B008PQJXFO/ref=pd_sim_e_3

They get a lot of good reviews, my question is anyone know if will they work with the stock JVC X30 /RS45 emitter?

Just realized they are RF and the JVC emitter is IR so they won't work, think I will just get the JVC PKAG2BG glasses instead.
post #4311 of 4435
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Originally Posted by Socio View Post

Just realized they are RF and the JVC emitter is IR so they won't work, think I will just get the JVC PKAG2BG glasses instead.

Try to find some Xpand X104's. They work with the IR JVC emitter.
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post #4312 of 4435
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Try to find some Xpand X104's. They work with the IR JVC emitter.

Unless your screen material maintains any polarisation
post #4313 of 4435
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Try to find some Xpand X104's. They work with the IR JVC emitter.

There are a number of X104s out there. They seem to be labeled as "SX" for small, "MX" for medium, and "LX" for large.

What are the differences between the "1" and "2" designations? I would assume "2" models are newer, but sometimes newer doesn't mean better.

Thoughts?

I see
X104LX1
X104LX2
X104MX1
X104MX2
X104SX1
X104SX2
post #4314 of 4435
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

What happened to your projector?

I got a hold of the representative today and I'm told the "part" is on "backorder" for another six weeks... add that to the six weeks I've already been waiting and it looks pretty depressing. This is not what I'd describe as good customer service especially on a product that is under the original warranty. I hope you don't end-up waiting months for your projector!
post #4315 of 4435
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Originally Posted by mnn1265 View Post

I got a hold of the representative today and I'm told the "part" is on "backorder" for another six weeks... add that to the six weeks I've already been waiting and it looks pretty depressing. This is not what I'd describe as good customer service especially on a product that is under the original warranty. I hope you don't end-up waiting months for your projector!
Looks like I may be in the same boat with my RS55 at Mendtronix, but probably too early to start complaining. Have you asked JVC if they consider it acceptable to be without your projector for 3 months? Ultimately they are responsible for providing the customer service. Make sure you mention you are posting on AVS about this issue.
post #4316 of 4435
A projector taking that long to repair is really bad, but you guys should get a cheap backup projector, maybe a DLP.
Though if in a ceiling mounted environment, could be a bit more difficult to switch around, just install a temporary shelf in the back or something.

I know it might not work for some people, but I'd never only own one projector.
post #4317 of 4435
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

A projector taking that long to repair is really bad, but you guys should get a cheap backup projector, maybe a DLP.
Though if in a ceiling mounted environment, could be a bit more difficult to switch around, just install a temporary shelf in the back or something.

I know it might not work for some people, but I'd never only own one projector.
I do have a backup projector but the bulb is so dim I'd have to invest $400 for a new bulb to use it and since it's ultimately a poor use of my money I would rather not. Besides, I shouldn't have to since I purchased a new projector from a supposedly reputable company and through a reputable dealer (AVS). I might as well take my chances on E-bay!

I spoke to a JVC warranty rep and he had the nerve to tell me that to fix my projector the parts had to be manufactured in Japan and then shipped to Mendtronix and that's why it will take at least 3 months to conduct warranty repairs. That's ridiculous of course but it does illustrate that their philosophy does not put customer service very high on their list of priorities. I came pretty close to insisting that he escalate my warranty claim to the next "level" and I informed him that the length of time for warranty repair was unacceptable and that I wanted a replacement unit. He said that wasn't possible unless they deemed the projector to be "unrepairable" and so I wouldn't be eligible for it. I asked him how long they would make me wait potentially for "parts" to get my product back and he said there was no limit - I have to wait as long as it takes them to get around to making repairs... even if it took a year.

I contacted AVS to see if they could put some pressure on JVC but I have not heard anything back from them so it doesn't appear going through the dealer is going to help.

I just don't understand how a major electronics manufacturer today can stay in business with this kind of customer service.
post #4318 of 4435
+1

I was fortunate with my JVC's and Sony's but neither CS seem to be as good as Epson which I do not care for LCD technology. Guess we'll just have to suck it up and get a back up projector.
post #4319 of 4435
They of course should have offered a refurb replacement.

Or at the very least, a loner of the same model until your unit is repaired.

Also make sure they extend your warranty for the amount of weeks/months they've had your PJ in possession.

Posting these issues on a very public forum is good form. It WILL affect their sales, period. Even if only by one. There will always be that one person (or more) that will chose a Sony over a JVC for a few reasons. JVC doesn't need 'another' reason for them to make a switch.
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Back in the day JVC had a Consumer Affairs department (of which I'm guessing they still do). They would help coordinate the issue between yourself and the related department. Now I can't say they were overly helpful and I can't say how much (if any) pressure they placed in getting it resolved to my satisfaction (it wasn't). But at least I felt I had another avenue to seek justice... smile.gif

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