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post #1 of 80
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This is a Newegg Black Friday deal on a decent sub for the price, the Klipsch 12d sub. This is a much better sub than the Lavas, the BICs, etc. Shipping is included.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882780078
post #2 of 80
Agreed, I loved my rw12. Very clean sound and does very well in small to medium sized rooms. There is a big difference between this and my Polk psw505. Mine was over 5 years old and I got this same price when I sold it a month ago, lol.
post #3 of 80
I bought the RW-10D for my son when it was on sale at Newegg for $200, and it was a great value.
post #4 of 80
Here is a link to a test of the RW12D as part of a 5 sub shootout. For the money it is probably the best deal since the Emotiva Ultra 12 (which is sold out). The review starts on page 4 and continues on page 5:

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/art...ofers?page=0,3
post #5 of 80
I bumped a few threads for this sub when I saw this deal as well. I don't think it can be beat for the price.

Best sub? No.
Unbeatable for the price? Yes.

At this price pick up two.
post #6 of 80
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Originally Posted by Archaea View Post

I bumped a few threads for this sub when I saw this deal as well. I don't think it can be beat for the price.

Best sub? No.
Unbeatable for the price? Yes.

At this price pick up two.

I agree. I followed your lead and bumped a few where people were recently considering subs in the $200 to $300 price range.
post #7 of 80
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Originally Posted by mojomike View Post

This is a Newegg Black Friday deal on a decent sub for the price, the Klipsch 12d sub. This is a much better sub than the Lavas, the BICs, etc. Shipping is included.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882780078

So in comparison to the PL-200, this would blow it out of the water?
Edit: I know this review says it wasn't too good for music but how about actual user experience? I have never had my own system. I had the Z-5500 before this. Is this worth it or should I still go with the PL-200 if I listen to a lot of music?
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post #9 of 80
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I'd get the Klipsch over any BIC or Lava sub.

No, the Klipsch is not a great sub. But it is a decent sub at a great price.
post #10 of 80
I mean a great sub to me mojomike. I had the Z-5500 before this, never had a home theater system before but the Z-5500s were GREAT. Now I want to make my own real hometheater. Is this going to be good for music as that review questioned it but then again, this is experts reviewing it and I'm a newbie making a first time purchase.
post #11 of 80
If you liked that logitech setup - you'll be in awe of this Klipsch. The logitech are powerful subs for their size, but don't fool youself into thinking they are deservant of winning some sort of audiophile recognition award -- ha -- they aren't!!!!!!!!!!

The Logitech sub won't be nearly as clean, or as powerful as this Klipsch. I don't see how you wouldn't be very impressed with the Klipsch coming from the Logitech set if that is your reference point.
post #12 of 80
Alright thanks. My Logitechs sounded AMAZING to me when it came to movies. The Z-5500 were definitely a good deal for the amount of money they were. Watching True Blood on it, the audio sounded amazing, especially the strings during dramatic moments.
Now I'm trying to decide whether a refurbished TX-NR807 is worth buying. I heard some onkyo receivers had issues but I'm uneducated.
I was going to buy the sub last but since my mishap with buying my receiver, and missing every deal possible with the Polk Monitor 70s, I am just going to jump and get the sub and receiver now and hope I can scrounge up money for some monitor 70s when they are on sale again lol.
post #13 of 80
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I have a Z-5500 in the bedroom for surround sound for the TV. The sub is surprisingly robust, but that Klipsch sub is in a whole other class compared with the Logitech.
post #14 of 80
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Originally Posted by tential View Post

Alright thanks. My Logitechs sounded AMAZING to me when it came to movies. The Z-5500 were definitely a good deal for the amount of money they were. Watching True Blood on it, the audio sounded amazing, especially the strings during dramatic moments.
Now I'm trying to decide whether a refurbished TX-NR807 is worth buying. I heard some onkyo receivers had issues but I'm uneducated.
I was going to buy the sub last but since my mishap with buying my receiver, and missing every deal possible with the Polk Monitor 70s, I am just going to jump and get the sub and receiver now and hope I can scrounge up money for some monitor 70s when they are on sale again lol.

The Klipsch would be a fantastic upgrade. And to hold you over until the Monitor 70s go on sale again, you could always grab a pair of Monitor 30s or 40s on sale, then switch them to surround once you get the 70s.
post #15 of 80
I wonder how this sub compares to the Polk PSW505's I just ordered.
post #16 of 80
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Originally Posted by Anamorphic View Post

I wonder how this sub compares to the Polk PSW505's I just ordered.

Read the second message in this thread.
post #17 of 80
The review plus does not make me feel great about its music capabilities.

For music, would the RW-12D be substantially better than the Polk PSW 505?
post #18 of 80
How would you compare this Klispch model to a Velodyne F1200 that was manufactured in 1992?

Good upgrade or stay where I am at?
post #19 of 80
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Originally Posted by patran View Post

The review plus does not make me feel great about its music capabilities.

For music, would the RW-12D be substantially better than the Polk PSW 505?

If you are talking about the Sound and Vision review, keep in mind the Klipsch is being compared against $600 to $800 subs from SVS, HSU, and Outlaw Audio that are generally considered by AVS subwoofer enthusiasts to be a step up in class from the Klipsch. It's not surprising that it did not fair as well with music compared to the others. One could expect that the PSW505 would have done worse.
post #20 of 80
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

If you are talking about the Sound and Vision review, keep in mind the Klipsch is being compared against $600 to $800 subs from SVS, HSU, and Outlaw Audio that are generally considered by AVS subwoofer enthusiasts to be a step up in class from the Klipsch. It's not surprising that it did not fair as well with music compared to the others. One could expect that the PSW505 would have done worse.

That's a good point. Apparently compared with those subs, the Klipsch may have been a little out of it's league. But at $299, it's tough to beat.
post #21 of 80
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Originally Posted by PCTools View Post

How would you compare this Klispch model to a Velodyne F1200 that was manufactured in 1992?

Good upgrade or stay where I am at?

I'd expect the Klipsch to have a whole lot more output, possibly as much as a few of the F1200's together, but I'd bet on much better sound quality and deeper response from the Velodyne. Do you find youself in need of more output?
post #22 of 80
We have wooden floor, so I hope the Klipsch RW-12D will work out great for us. I hope the +100$ higher price tag than the Polk PSW 505 will be really worth it. I dislike "diminished return", so I am hoping for great return ;-)
post #23 of 80
how does it compare with the outlaw LFM EX?
post #24 of 80
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Originally Posted by domingos38 View Post

how does it compare with the outlaw LFM EX?

Read the Sound and Vision review that compared them both:

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/art...ofers?page=0,5

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/art...ofers?page=0,3
post #25 of 80
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

Read the second message in this thread.

Saying that there's a "big difference" and a "big improvement" are two totally different things. So in regards to the 2nd post, it did not answer my question.

On that note, I got to listen to a pair of 505's most of today at my brother's place. I have to say, they sounded pretty darn good with music. They had plenty of bass extension, offered up really good dynamics, even at low volumes, and were very tight and detailed.

With the movie we watched later on, they still did well, making the explosions and such shake the walls without ever sounding overworked and/or strained.

Considering their price point and the pedigree of subs I'm used to owning, I'm quite pleased with the performance of these guys.
post #26 of 80
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Originally Posted by patran View Post

We have wooden floor, so I hope the Klipsch RW-12D will work out great for us. I hope the +100$ higher price tag than the Polk PSW 505 will be really worth it. I dislike "diminished return", so I am hoping for great return ;-)

As you may have read from my post above, these two subs are in different leagues. I'd rather have one rw than 2 polks if that tells you anything.

On that note 2 of the klipsch would be really great for 600 as well in a small to medium room.
post #27 of 80
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Originally Posted by patran View Post

The review plus does not make me feel great about its music capabilities.

For music, would the RW-12D be substantially better than the Polk PSW 505?

I have the exact same question. If my budget is $300 max, can the RW-12D be beat? Does it really not handle music well, or like cel4145 pointed out, was it just by comparison in the review? I can't afford any of the subs in the review -- except for the RW-12D on sale. I understand that a lot of times subs are better at music or better at HT. My viewing/listening habits are probably about 70% HT and 30% music. But, I don't want my music to suck.

I would gladly take a cheaper, smaller sub and sacrifice a little bit in terms of HT use for better quality in music. I guess my question is really, for those who use the RW-12D for music, are you happy with it? Is the bass muddy for music as the review stated, or is that just when compared with $600-$800 subs? And is that at really pushed volumes? I rarely listen to music anywhere even approaching reference levels -- at more reasonable volumes, does the RW-12D handle music well?
post #28 of 80
I am considering this sub, but wonder if it's overkill. I'm going to be using a Pio 1121k with energy take classic 5.0 speakers in a room that is approx 14 x 15 (but has open walkways to other rooms). Probably an 80% movie/tv and 20% music split.

Given all of the above, does this sub make sense for me?
post #29 of 80
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Originally Posted by oilcandan View Post

I am considering this sub, but wonder if it's overkill. I'm going to be using a Pio 1121k with energy take classic 5.0 speakers in a room that is approx 14 x 15 (but has open walkways to other rooms). Probably an 80% movie/tv and 20% music split.

Given all of the above, does this sub make sense for me?

The sub would not be overkill.

Besides, if you have a room that is open to other rooms (no doors to close it off), then the space in those rooms does affect the performance of a sub. Bigger cubic space > more powerful sub.
post #30 of 80
The Klipsch is back on sale at Newegg at $299 through 12/7 (promo code EMCJHKJ65).
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