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post #1 of 46
11/28/11 at 8:15am
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I have been a lurker on here for quite some time and I am finally going to post my setup. Give me a few days and I will get some pictures up. I am looking forward to your critiques.


Grills off.


How things usually look with the grills on.


The cabinet opened up.


Close up of the cabinet


The rear channels

Display
Pioneer KURO 60 Display

Speakers
Bowers and Wilkins 802D (PAIR)
Bowers and Wilkins HTM2D
Bowers and Wilkins LCR3
Bowers and Wilkins DM303 (PAIR)
JL Audio Fathom F212 (Gloss Black)

Processing
McIntosh MX150 Processor

Amps
McIntosh MC-402 Amp
Rotel RMB-1095 Amp

Power
Monster Cable AVS-2000 Voltage Stabilizer Signature
Monster Cable HTPS 7000 Signature
Monster Cable HTUPS 3700

Source Components
Oppo BDP-95 Blur-ray Player
Logitech Transporter
Western Digital WD TV Hub

Cables
Audioquest Rockafeller BiWire Speaker Cables (PAIR)
Audioquest Rocket 88 BiWire Speaker Cable (Front Center)
Audioquest Sub-3 XLR (2.0 meter)
Audioquest Carbon USB Cable (2)
Audioquest Columbia RCA Interconnect
Audioquest Columbia XLR Interconnect (2 PAIRS)
Audioquest Carbon HDMI (4)
Audioquest Optilink-1 Toslink Cable (1)
Audioquest NRG-2 Power Cable (4)
Audioquest King Cobra XLR Interconnects (8)
Audioquest Raven AES/EBU Digital Cable
Monster Cable Surround Wiring

Miscellaneous
Salamander Rack with TV Mount
ATS Acoustic Corner Bass Traps
ATS Acoustic Panels
Monster Cable Central Control
Antec Rack Cooling Units (3)
WD Powerline Networking

Headphones
Grado SR-225
B&W P5
B&W C5

Retired Components
B&W 703
B&W HTM61
B&W CM Center 2
Rotel RB-1080
Rotel RSP-1068
Benchmark DAC-1 Pre
Integra DTC-9.8
Arcam AV888
Cary Cinema 11a
Cary Cinema 12
ACI Titan XL Subwoofer
ACI Maestro Subwoofer (PAIR)
Rotel RB-976
Rotel RMB-1075
Rotel RCD-1072
Monster HTS 3600MKII


I am planning on moving into a better space in my next home that will give me more choices for surround locations. At that point, I plan to upgrade the rear surrounds and move to a 7.1 system. I also plan to add a second JL f212 and more than likely upgrade the Rotel.

Let me know your thoughts, I look forward to hearing from you all.
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post #2 of 46
11/28/11 at 8:32am
This is an HT porn thread...we need pictures brother!!!!!

Your equipment list looks awesome.
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post #3 of 46
11/28/11 at 9:01am
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I know, I know....I am planning on getting bashed until they are posted. Unfortunately, there is a small construction project going in the room, so everything is covered and a few speakers are moved from the normal location. I am hoping to have it up and running in the next couple days and will get pictures up as soon as I can.
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post #4 of 46
11/28/11 at 8:16pm
what ...no pix ???....didn't happen !
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post #5 of 46
11/29/11 at 4:03am
Nice system you have there. So I'm not the only one using a
macintosh up front and a Rotel for the other five.
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post #6 of 46
11/29/11 at 5:44pm
Yeah this is a system that needs to be seen to be believed. Not because I think you're lying but because there's so much ht goodness in there.
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post #7 of 46
11/29/11 at 5:53pm
We need instant gratification!! Pictures please.
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post #8 of 46
11/29/11 at 7:56pm
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Here you go, pictures are up!
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post #9 of 46
11/29/11 at 8:29pm
Your retired equipment is better than my current equipment. lol. Nice job, looks fantastic and I bet it sounds unbelievable. Thanks for sharing!
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post #10 of 46
11/29/11 at 11:34pm
Is that the Salamander Synergy Synchro Furniture Mate? Been looking all over the internet for pictures of one in an actual home theater.
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post #11 of 46
11/30/11 at 6:23am
I love how B&W's look without the grills on, they are pure sex.
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post #12 of 46
11/30/11 at 9:49am
A gorgeous system, congrats!
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post #13 of 46
11/30/11 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by g_bartman View Post

Nice system you have there. So I'm not the only one using a
macintosh up front and a Rotel for the other five.

2 channel music has always been my priority, so I have always made my upgrades there first. Ultimately the Rotel will go in favor of a Mac, but it will be a year or so down the road. I definitely want to upgrade those rear surrounds first.

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Originally Posted by pcweber111 View Post

Your retired equipment is better than my current equipment. lol. Nice job, looks fantastic and I bet it sounds unbelievable. Thanks for sharing!

Thank you for the kind words, I followed your signature to your system. I love the media PC setup. I have been thinking of doing one, but this last year I ended up building a computer in my office and streaming from it or using the 13 TB worth of external drives in the rack to store my media.

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Originally Posted by thaxphenomx View Post

Is that the Salamander Synergy Synchro Furniture Mate? Been looking all over the internet for pictures of one in an actual home theater.

It is actually the Salamander Chameleon Series, specifically the Oslo Triple 337. It was pricey, but I have been so happy with the purchase, very sturdy and very adjustable. I have the built in TV stand and had some issues getting the TV high enough to accommodate that big center. Salamander's customer service was top notch and worked with me to find a solution. I couldn't be happier.

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Originally Posted by TeRRoRiFiC35 View Post

I love how B&W's look without the grills on, they are pure sex.

I agree, I was in love with these speakers when I had only seen them in pictures.
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post #14 of 46
11/30/11 at 1:13pm
Wow, this has to be the best I've seen in a long time. You have all the HT gear we regular people sell our souls to get. I just love those B&W's and Mcintosh gear! 5 stars!
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post #15 of 46
12/1/11 at 6:29am
Wow incredible gear.
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post #16 of 46
12/1/11 at 8:01am
Thank you for posting pictures (I was the first response with the HT Porn comment). Very nice. You have so much gear it actually makes your 60 in set look like a 50. Well done.
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post #17 of 46
12/1/11 at 11:41pm
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Thank you everyone for the kind words. I am hoping to find time to run the room perfect setup again this weekend as it has not been run since changing the center speaker out and adding the bass traps. I am eager to see the improvements. Even untuned that center is a real game changer.
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post #18 of 46
12/1/11 at 11:43pm
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

Thank you for posting pictures (I was the first response with the HT Porn comment). Very nice. You have so much gear it actually makes your 60 in set look like a 50. Well done.

I took numerous pictures to try to show the scale of the TV better, but they all make it look much smaller than feels in person.

I had a chance to check out your setup in your signature link and it is very clean. I absolutely love what you did with what looks like a very challenging space. Great work!
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post #19 of 46
12/2/11 at 5:43am
VERY Sweet set up - Amazing Gear!!
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post #20 of 46
12/2/11 at 7:15am
Oh snap. That looks like an incredible room. McIntosh and B&W must be great together. And the JL sub looks cool as well. You mentioned that 2ch is a priority for you. If that is the case then can I make a suggestion? It looks like your 802D's are pushed back and that cabinet is between them. If at all possible, furniture may have to be shifted, try and move your speakers so there is nothing in between them. I had my old 927be speakers set up in a simmilar way. And I always wondered why my I did get that sound I heard in the show room. I always thought it was my gear. It was not. It was speaker placement. One day I moved those speakers out so the wall unit was not in between them and I was floored by the change. I had a center stage for the first time. That got better as I added treatments but still, the change was dramatic. If at all possible, even if you only do it for your critical 2ch listening, I would try and move those speaker out. You have fantastic gear and you should try and get the most you can out of it. Check out my link to see what I did in my small room. Anyway, again, that is an outstanding setup.
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post #21 of 46
12/2/11 at 7:25am
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

Oh snap. That looks like an incredible room. McIntosh and B&W must be great together. And the JL sub looks cool as well. You mentioned that 2ch is a priority for you. If that is the case then can I make a suggestion? It looks like your 802D's are pushed back and that cabinet is between them. If at all possible, furniture may have to be shifted, try and move your speakers so there is nothing in between them.

Agreed. Also, with the equipment cabinet between them, the 802Ds are pushed close to the side walls. Relocation of the equipment cabinet and, perhaps, the sub might work wonders.
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post #22 of 46
12/2/11 at 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

Oh snap. That looks like an incredible room. McIntosh and B&W must be great together. And the JL sub looks cool as well. You mentioned that 2ch is a priority for you. If that is the case then can I make a suggestion? It looks like your 802D's are pushed back and that cabinet is between them. If at all possible, furniture may have to be shifted, try and move your speakers so there is nothing in between them. I had my old 927be speakers set up in a simmilar way. And I always wondered why my I did get that sound I heard in the show room. I always thought it was my gear. It was not. It was speaker placement. One day I moved those speakers out so the wall unit was not in between them and I was floored by the change. I had a center stage for the first time. That got better as I added treatments but still, the change was dramatic. If at all possible, even if you only do it for your critical 2ch listening, I would try and move those speaker out. You have fantastic gear and you should try and get the most you can out of it. Check out my link to see what I did in my small room. Anyway, again, that is an outstanding setup.

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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Agreed. Also, with the equipment cabinet between them, the 802Ds are pushed close to the side walls. Relocation of the equipment cabinet and, perhaps, the sub might work wonders.

Unfortunately for the next year or so I am stuck in that rather cramped room. Currently there is only about 20 inches from the front of the left speaker to couch in front of it. Although the speakers look pushed back they have about 10 inches of them out past the front of the cabinet and are about 12 inches from the panels behind them.

I really don't have another option for the sub placement in that room as floor space is rather tight.

Any suggestions you guys have for what I can do with this room would be very helpful.

Should I bring the speakers further forward? or would that put the left too close to the couch?

Thanks in advance for your advice.
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post #23 of 46
12/2/11 at 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by B&WKURO View Post

Unfortunately for the next year or so I am stuck in that rather cramped room. Currently there is only about 20 inches from the front of the left speaker to couch in front of it. Although the speakers look pushed back they have about 10 inches of them out past the front of the cabinet and are about 12 inches from the panels behind them.

I really don't have another option for the sub placement in that room as floor space is rather tight.

Any suggestions you guys have for what I can do with this room would be very helpful.

Should I bring the speakers further forward? or would that put the left too close to the couch?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

If they are 10in in front of the cabinet, that might be enough, I am sure you are getting something positive with that placement. If you keep the left speaker there, I would not move it out anymore. It also depends how much you want to sacrifice to get the most out of your system. I moved plenty of furniture and even got new furniture to make the room work better with my gear. It all depends how far you are willing to go.

Moving the left further up would probably put it too close to the couch. How about switching the sub and your left speaker. Place the sub a bit closer to the corner and then put your left speaker where the sub is. If you do that you might be able to pull the fronts out a bit more to get them from being in between that unit. From the looks of it you should clear the couch then and I think your speakers will still be far enough apart to get a nice center sound stage. I know all about compromise. I have made some in my room but I also made choices that I never thought I would do to make my system sound the best it can. It all depends how far you are willing to go. Would you move that couch to another room and get furniture that allows you maximize what you have? I did. I got rid of a wall unit. Moved a couch. Separated my racks. Got a flat screen TV. Added room treatments. Got rid of the couch and one chair and replaced them with two recliners. Most of those changes were done with me NOT wanting to do them initially but I am glad that I did because now my system sounds the best it has ever sounded. What ever you choose, you do have a great setup and I have no doubt that it sounds fantastic .
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You say you are stuck in that room for about a year. If so, and you REALLY can't do any of the above, then just enjoy what you have. As I said, with that gear I can't imagine it sounding bad. Just maybe try and use some of these suggestions for the next room you find yourself in.
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post #24 of 46
12/4/11 at 11:23pm
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I did try switching the left and the sub, but I was not happy with what it did to the front sound stage. I checked again and the front speakers are out closer to 12 inches from the front of the cabinet and there is about 30 inches from the couch. Removing the couch would cut my seating capacity almost in half and would limit my use of the room.

This room will most likely be my theater home for the next 6-18 months, and I am supremely happy with how the system sounds in its current configuration. I am confident that with your suggestions, my sound could be improved even further, but unfortunately those changes aren't really an option for me at present. Thanks for all the advice and you guys have me even more excited for my next space that will be fully dedicated to duty as a theater and open to any changes.
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post #25 of 46
12/5/11 at 5:28am
With that spacing of your front speakers, I think that is fine. I am sure it sounds great as it is. If you already tried some of these suggestions and they just did not work, oh well. Don't worry about what you can't do. With that gear, I am sure you don't want to limit the amount of people that can enjoy it. When I need to, I will just pull in another chair if I have more than one other person. I don't need to tell you this, but just enjoy your system as it is. But, I am glad that you are excited for what might happen in the future .
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post #26 of 46
12/10/11 at 8:50am
dude, you have an f212!!! ok....****breathe Brolic breathe......***

DUDE, YOU HAVE AN F212!!!!!! lol......This equipment is absolutely remarkable.
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post #27 of 46
12/12/11 at 7:24pm
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dude, you have an f212!!! ok....****breathe Brolic breathe......***

DUDE, YOU HAVE AN F212!!!!!! lol......This equipment is absolutely remarkable.

Thanks for the kind words. The f212 has been amazing. It still blows my mind with its output. I am both excited and scared at the thought of adding a second one.
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post #28 of 46
12/19/11 at 10:50am
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I found some pics of my setup in previous forms. Here you go.


Panasonic TV, B&W 703s, ACI Titan XL Sub, Rotel amps and preamp.


A couple years later the center was upgraded to the HTM61 and the TV was now a Sony SXRD.


A couple years later the TV was now the Pioneer KURO, stand was replaced, Transporter was the main source for music, and the Integra DTC 9.8 was controlling it all.


A very brief setup (about 3 weeks) while waiting for the Salamander stand. just the transporter connected direct to the McIntosh. Not pretty, but it worked.


FOr a brief time I had the Arcam AV888 and the Benchmark Dac-1 Pre.
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post #29 of 46
12/21/11 at 7:55am
Your present system represents quite the difference for the better IMHO .
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post #30 of 46
12/21/11 at 11:20am
That's a very nice progression!!! I love looking at before/after pics!!!
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