Official Sharp 60" AQUOS LC-60LE632U Owners Thread - Page 5

Sorry but they are for Game mode.



Ok, as I said before these are not D65 (even though it's in the ballpark) but they are a major improvement over out of the box (much closer to 6500K across the range and all but <10 IRE are under delta 2).

Average gamma is just under 2.2 with an S shaped gamma for a better contrast ratio (difficult with no fine tuning gamma adjustments).

Signal = YCbCr 4:2:2

Game mode

Backlight = +7 (calibrated for bright room but use your preference)
Contrast = +27
Brightness = +1
Color = 0
Tint = 0
Sharpness = +1

Color Temp = LOW
Red (LO) = +15
Green (LO) = 0
Blue (LO) = -28
Red (HI) = +2
Green (HI) = 0
Blue (HI) = -18

Active Contrast = ON
Gamma = -2 (higher settings result in a flatter but lower gamma, +2 = about a 1.7 gamma)

Hope these help,
Jason

i agree with the game mode. i have been using it since i got the tv...

as far as the signal, i assume that is the ati ccc settings...

i am trying the above settings, thanks for the time to post those.

so far seems pretty good, but very.......very red. even the whites are red...i will see how i get used to it thru the day...

thanks again..!!!!!!!!

Something is off if the whites are very red. As I said there just may be too many tolerance variables from set to set. However if you are very used to looking at overly blue whites it will be an adjustment watching 6500K.

Yes YCbCr *4:4:4 (16-235) is available in CCC but it's also common for many blu ray players.

* DO NOT USE 4:4:4, USE 4:2:2.

Jason

i think its definitely the first...i have always been accustomed to the mid to hi setting.

looking better by the minute. very nice

no blu ray, all htpc with wmpchc and media browser. and games...using mpchc with madvr running 1080p mkv

still torn between sharp +1 or +2

and rgb 444 on ati or ycbr 444

thanks again for the time...

Ill be making the purchase in around 8 hours.. Trying to decide between a 735 or a 632u ... Both 70 inches.. Im not fully into 3d and most saying after calibrated the 632u is pretty close to the 735. Should I save a 1000 dollars or more or not is now the question lol

i would like to use game mode as it seems to lessen the stutter, but the color seems to to way overblown, not even in the ball park... i know movie mode is the closest to the standard OOTB.

Thus the calibration.

You might be surprised at just how far off the factory movie mode is from being accurate.

Jason

well i must say. i used your settings in game mode..


at first i was like "wow, very red and colors seemed off"

after a full day i can say...WOW!!!!

best i have used for this tv. colors explode off the screen. pc games are wonderful. 1080p mkv blu ray insane...

thanks for the time...

No problem, glad the settings are adding to your enjoyment of the set.

I'll be honest, this rough 6500k calibration is actually more fun than my D65 calibration.

Jason

I just stumbled on this thread, I am in the market for a quality 60 to 65" display.....evryone happy with this one? It seems from what I have read its a "decent" model.

Any issues arising? I want to replace my 52" aquos and have been eyeing a few sammy's and a couple sharps. The new elite looks like the real deal but its also $4,500....

Here's a quick & rough 6500k for you on Movie mode, these settings should tell you just how far out it actually is.

Color Temp = LOW (Mid-Low is way too blue to start with)

Red (LO) = +10
Blue (LO) = -28

Red (HI) = +3
Blue (HI) = -18

Green's remain at 0

That was with everything turned off including Active Contrast (although it can be enabled with little effect on the settings)

Gamma at 0 (you can use -1 but I did not check -2)

Contrast = 27
Brightness = +1
Color & Tint = 0

Hope that helps,
Jason

thanks Jason,

did you use your meter for this or just eyeball it? i do appreciate your help...

i would like to use game, however the color to me looks overblown, where movie looks more natural, i think game does help the stutter... looks like i will be getting a pro cal and have him calibrate movie and game.... just need to wait and save the money for it.... and i am not patient.

the wife even commented on it the other nite. conan obrien was down rite scary on pic quality...

awesome...

It's a solid entry level 60", it's no Elite, but at about 1/4 the price that's expected.

Best results are using Game mode to avoid judder/lag and none of the modes are very accurate out of the box.

Expect some degree of clouding & flashlighting but should not be obvious with most content as long as you do not go looking for it (this varies from set to set just like all edge lit LED's).




Those were done with a color meter, just quickly, but they are better than factory by a good margin.

Use Game mode for a while and then switch back to Movie mode (with everything disabled) and the difference will be obvious to you. A fully calibrated Game mode is the way to go on this display, no doubt about it.




That's great!


Jason

so how far was the color off in game mode pre cal? not grayscale but the hue, sat, and value settings...

Pre cal, both Movie and Game are a good bit off both Color Temp & HSV with Movie mode being a little closer. All factory modes on this display are off of both 6500k and D65 and none appear to even be really close. I think this is probably a deliberate move by Sharp to help push people to the more expensive models.

Jason

New settings... a little bit closer to 6500k with near delta 1 across the scale other than delta 3 at 10 IRE (which is very good down that low).

These are without Active Contrast enabled for the video purists among us (of course you can use it if you like).

Game mode
Color Temp = LOW

Red (LO) = +15
Blue (LO) = -30

Red (HI) = +3
Blue (HI) = -18

Green's remain at 0

Gamma = -2 (try Gamma -1 or 0 if you enable Active Contrast and find it to be too dark)

Backlight = +3 (or use your room preference)
Contrast = 27
Brightness = +1
Color & Tint = 0

Please keep in mind these are not a complete D65 calibration as no secondary color adjustments have been made (nor any HSV), thus this should not be considered a substitute for an actual ISF level calibration.

Jason

awesome, i will try these also. the other one was perfect imho. but what the heck....

wish you would throw us a but more to get the colors in check in game mode... i plan on getting a calibration done when money permits

Hey Jason,

Thanks again for sharing, I really appreciate the help. I'm currently using another posters settings I tweeked a little via the spears & munsil disk that looked like a match with the blue filter and color bars pattern. I haven't had much time to actually watch the thing though because of overtime at work. I'll try yours out when I get a chance.

Coming from a plasma, I don't notice much of a difference watching football as far as motion is concerned. What I do notice is the picture changes significantly off axis. I noticed it big time when I had the pluge low pattern on from the spears & munsil disk. Where the black bars were barely visible on my couch directly in front of the tv, they were way too bright about 45 degrees off axis in my favorite chair. Have you observed this also?

Thanks again,
Todd

that is normal for a LCD, i notice it sitting at the edge of the set on the couch, only a 1 1/2' off center, the other side is a little washed out.

I can see curved faint lines about 1.5 inches thick that run from top to bottom when viewing light colored solid backgrounds. Can anything be done to correct this or is this due to not being an Elite set?

These will show in any View Mode and regardless of the AV Mode settings.

They are very faint but once you know they are there you can't help but notice them every time.

Good news is that they only show with a white or light background as in a snow setting, sky setting, or solid wall in the picture.

One other note is the TV does not handle camera panning as well either. I do see the Judder effect. Looks like using the game mode settings posted by DaGamePimp may be answer for this.

I really appreciate the input from you guys.

The first settings I posted are actually better than the most recent set, I discovered my output settings were different than what I had thought they were. (sorry)

I have a new set on the way soon if anybody cares to try them.

I also discovered after zooming out the 6500k (100%) that Green was not perfectly flat and actually does require some adjustment as no amount of other color adjustments bring it to a flat 6500k across the range.

It seems that these sets are not capable of perfect REC709 Green (Red and Blue can get close but not right on). There is also a different issue with Red when you get into a full D65 calibration.

Every factory Color Temp preset on the 60LE632 has too much Blue, PC is actually the closet to 6500k out of the box but obviously still has some degree of lag.

When calibrating HSV for D65 Y shifts when adjusting x & y so the CMS on the 632 series does not function as it should, this makes D65 calibration a real chore on this set.

Also please consider I am doing these on a 60LE632 so those with other sets will possibly see variances that equate to a less than stellar image (sorry but I am just trying to help out and not much I can do about that).

Jason

thanks for the info...

will anxiously wait the new post..

Thanks Jason.

Do you know anything about the faint line problem I posted above? Your settings really helped with the studder/judder and color. My movies look much better and so do the sports.

Thanks again.

Nice slide show btw. Love the theater room.

Ok here is a FULL 6500k/D65 for the 60LE632... enjoy.

Set your Blu Ray player to 4:2:2 if it has selectable modes, most players default to 4:2:2 (the 632 does not handle 4:4:4 properly).

This is GAME mode, target of 40 ftL, with all bells-n-whistles turned off for the Video purist crowd.

OPC = off
Backlight = +2 (-3 works well in dark room)
Contrast = +26 (Up to 30 for more POP with slight alteration to calibration)
Brightness = +1
Color = -5 (red)
Tint = +4 (cyan)
Sharpness = +1 (or 0)

Color Temp = Low
LO
R = +13
G = 0
B = -29

HI
R = +3
G = 0
B = -18

Active Contrast = OFF (you can use it but it does alter some of the calibration)
Gamma = -2 (or -1 if you use Active Contrast)

HUE
R +5
Y +1
G -8
C +1
B +3
M -3

SAT
R +1
Y +2
G 0
C 0
B +13
M +1

VAL
R +3
Y 0
G +13
C 0
B +30
M 0

* For those that want a bit more POP this combo still graph's fairly well with only slight loss of accuracy... Contrast = up to 29 / Gamma = -1 / Active Contrast = ON (backlight at +2 for bright room or -3 for dark room)

These TV's have an issue with Red so if you feel like tweaking to your liking please feel free to do so.

If you adjust the backlight or contrast setting it will also slightly alter the calibration (the above numbers were right at 40 ftL).

Please remember that I do not do this for a living so if you want something more than what this offers please support all the great ISF certified tech's out there.

ALSO, for those new to 6500k/D65, these are for accuracy and as such they are not as vivid as what you may be used to.

Hope you like,
Jason

The lines you are seeing could be from a number of things so it's difficult to say.

Could be in the source, could be a questionable connection/cable, could be a defect in the display itself. Maybe you can post a pic and people can chime in.

Try the settings that I just posted, you should be much happier.


Thank You, I appreciate it!

Jason

OK. Thanks Jason. Attached are some photos showing the faint lines I'm referring to. This happens on multiple sources (DVD, XBox360, and DirectTV DVR. All use high quality HDMI connections.)

darreneddlemon,

This is definitely not normal and no calibration will correct it. You've got a a defective TV, and need to exchange it ASAP. There are multiple layers of different purpose film behind glass LCD and looks like somehow one(or more) of the layers got wrinkled. You might try to "wipe" the screen - take microfiber cloth and work it from the center of the screen toward the sides. If that doesn't work then get it exchanged or repaired.