Official Sharp 60" AQUOS LC-60LE632U Owners Thread - Page 9

Originally Posted by DaGamePimp


Sounds good, hope they work out on your set.

Jason

Originally Posted by DaGamePimp

Hey Todd,

These Movie mode settings are more accurate and if you do not have any processing issues/lag then you will probably enjoy them more than the Game settings (there is not a massive difference between the two and each mode has it's advantages). I do find that the Red issue tends to show itself a bit more often in Game mode. I did these with the hope that one of the two sets would work well enough for most people so they can develop an appreciation for something more accurate. I figured with the unknown variables on these Sharp displays the odds are better with two sets of settings out there for people to try.

As for source material it's just as with anything else, junk in = junk out. The better calibrated a display is the more you are likely to notice source deficiencies. With that said the usual suspects are very impressive on these displays once properly calibrated, things like Avatar, Star Wars ROTS, POTC4, The Dark Knight, Pixar/Dreamworks CGI animation. I have yet to be impressed with anything over cable (don't have SAT) but I have seen some impressive OTA (which is less compressed than cable).

Jason

Originally Posted by toddRiffic

Hey Jason,

As to your usual suspects for demonstration material, is there any one thing on any of them you can point to as to what to look for to show the difference between what a properly "calibrated" set displays vs a set that is not?

Thanks so much again!

Originally Posted by DaGamePimp

Well honestly I am not the right guy to ask for differences between calibrated and un-calibrated, it's night n' day for me and it ALL looks vastly different to my eyes. Even using the best possible factory presets on these sets is a MASSIVE difference from my calibrated settings. I cringe watching these things out of the box, they are truly hideous, so much so that it amazes me people buy them based upon what they see in a store. I bought it knowing I could calibrate it and make a choice to keep or return, once calibrated it was a keeper.

Watch for skin tones (do they look natural/real) and check out a black & white movie (does it look black & white?). Just be sure you are not watching a stylized movie where the director has purposely altered the color palette for look or mood. Also you should be seeing fine color gradations as they are meant to be seen, subtle transitions can often be lost on an un-calibrated display.

You're welcome, glad to see you are enjoying the settings (at least until that in-home pro cal).
Jason

Originally Posted by DaGamePimp

Here are my personal Movie settings, these have been tweaked to the N'th degree and this is as good as MY set gets in Movie mode. Hopefully they work well for some of you.

Blu Ray player set for 4:2:2, Deep Color OFF

Movie Mode
(target @ 40 ftL)

OPC = Off
Backlight = +2
Contrast = +27
Brightness = +1
Color = 0
Tint = 0
Sharpness = +1
Gamma = -2

Color Temp = Low (note: Green does not track flat @ 6500k from factory)

LO
R +16
G +2
B -30

HI
R +4
G +1
B -18
------
HUE
R +9
Y +6
G -2
C -4
B +2
M -1
------
SAT
R 0
Y -1
G -1
C 0
B 0
M 0
------
VAL
R -5
Y -2
G +15
C +2
B +16
M -5

* Everything else OFF (if Active Contrast is enabled set Gamma = -1, this does alter the CAL somewhat but will give more depth/pop if desired and still graph very well)

Again these are for MY 60LE632 and as such they may not be as accurate on your 632 series Sharp. I tested these settings with several different Blu Ray players and calibration discs once completed, they test perfect on MY 632 across multiple players with all the test discs (HD DVE, WOW, S&M, AVSHD 709).

* Currently running a Sony S780 Blu Ray player as it rivals my Sony 1000ES for image quality and is superior to my other players (Sony S580, Samsung C6900, LG 590, Panasonic BD35, PS3 phat, PS3 Slim, BD-HTPC).

Hopefully some of you will be very pleased with these, enjoy...?

Jason

Originally Posted by DaGamePimp

Here are my personal Movie settings, these have been tweaked to the N'th degree and this is as good as MY set gets in Movie mode. Hopefully they work well for some of you.

Blu Ray player set for 4:2:2, Deep Color OFF

Movie Mode
(target @ 40 ftL)



Hopefully some of you will be very pleased with these, enjoy...?

Jason

Originally Posted by DaGamePimp

Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it!

Always remember to never judge accuracy based upon broadcast tv.

Jason

Originally Posted by lokilarry

Jason, I tried your new settings on my 70" 632 and checked them with the DVE BD and the THX optimizer on my TiVo and the settings are quite good. Thanks for all of your hard work.

Originally Posted by toddRiffic

Agreed, I just wanted to give feedback based on what content I've had a chance to watch. I've got the day off for a dental appointment and if I'm not too goofed up from the gas and sedatives, I'll report back after checking out some of your bluray suggestions.

Originally Posted by DaGamePimp

Oh yes and I appreciate all constructive feedback, thank you.

Hope the dental appointment went well and you got the chance to enjoy your 632, I hate dental anything and my wife works in that field, hehe.

* Don't know if you have it but the HUGO blu ray is stunning.

Jason

Originally Posted by DaGamePimp


Hugo is amazing, truly a stunner on a calibrated set, if you found yourself drooling it may not have been from your dental visit.

With Hugo there were so many amazing visuals that I don't think I can recall actually picking it apart at any point, I was just in awe most of the time. The specs of dust floating around was captivating, which sounds silly but since you have seen it you probably know what I mean. The attention to all the little visual details just caught me off guard I guess. I can't really say it's a good movie to use as a guide for color because much of it has an altered color palette.

Jason

Originally Posted by DaGamePimp

I have some new settings done with a different meter on a 632 if anyone is interested in trying them out. These may work better for some (YMMV).

These are 35 ftL target in MOVIE mode (so may be better for a darker room versus my previous movie mode settings that targeted 40 ftL)...

Blu Ray player set to 4:2:2, deep color off, standard mode (not theater, bright room, custom modes for those players that have them)

OPC = OFF
BACKLIGHT = -1
CONTRAST = +27
BRIGHTNESS = +1
COLOR = 0
TINT = 0
SHARPNESS = 0 (+1 is ok but higher = much more ringing/ee)

Motion Enhance = OFF (120 Low is fine but avoid 120 High)
Active Contrast = OFF (if ON set Gamma to -1 for an average 2.2)
Gamma = -2


(UPDATED the settings below after more fine tuning)

Color Temp = LOW
LO
R +11
G 0
B -25

HI
R 0
G 0
B -11

- HUE ------ SAT ------ VAL
R +3 -------- 0 -------- -7
Y +7 ------- -2 -------- -1
G +3 -------- 0 ------- +14
C -3 -------- -1 ------- +3
B +1 -------- 0 ------- +15
M -1 -------- 0 -------- -6

Jason

Originally Posted by BassLake

Go easy on the poor guy. I think we should all chip in and send him on a well deserved vacation for his efforts.

Originally Posted by rbanez

Thanks again, Jason. I appreciate your time and effort in helping us "would be purists" in getting our sets as close to a properly calibrated set as possible. I will give these new 35 ftl settings a try.

After I dial in these calibrations, how do I know how close I am? Is there a way I can display a pic here of a certain scene or picture on my set (after calibration) to which you or others can tell if it is close or not? I am a purist and want proper calibration vs pop or good looks.

I know the settings will come close but not sure what I can do to tweak it further to my environment? Thanks again for your assistance.

Originally Posted by ditch-digger

still waiting for the new game settings....

u rock

Originally Posted by BassLake

Go easy on the poor guy. I think we should all chip in and send him on a well deserved vacation for his efforts.

Originally Posted by DaGamePimp

Checking it with a cal disc is about all you can do without proper cal gear.

Watch skin tones and check out a black & white movie to see if it looks b&w without any hint of other colors.




What I have decided to do is a Game mode cal with Active Contrast enabled since that is the only way to get the Gamma to average out at close to 2.2. So basically I'll do the entire cal with active contrast on, thus turning it off will alter the cal. This will be a balance and will not be perfect but hopefully I can improve upon my previous Game mode cal. I am hoping that I can get to it tonight.





Considering using someone else's settings does not guarantee proper calibration it would be wrong to charge for it, on the other hand donations to put toward new calibration equipment could be beneficial.

Sound good?

That'll be $19.95
+ tax (unless in Oregon)
+ s&h (my high speed internet just had the rates raised)
+ disposal fee (of old settings)
+ environmental fee (to replant the tree that was sacrificed to make my desk)
+ hourly rate (working into the wee hours requires much bottled water and granola bars)
+ medical expenses (developed carpal tunnel typing in settings)
= 3 easy payments of $33.33.

Seriously I am just trying to help others build an appreciation for something more accurate than the horrible factory presets we have been given and the more people that develop a taste for this the better.

I hope that people find a cal set that gets them in the ballpark (of course some may get really lucky but as always YMMV).

Jason

Originally Posted by airgas1998

we certainly appreciate it Jason. i have plugged your movie settings back into my 80", and they look great. previously was using kevin miller's, but see the red/rosy faces again. not sure wht the issue is, but so far the skin tones are great with yours. very interested to see how a new revised game mode will turn out.

Originally Posted by DaGamePimp

Have you tried the new Movie mode settings that I recently posted, they may be even better for you than the previous set (they are a little dimmer though @ roughly 35 ftL vs 40 ftL).

Jason