Official Sharp 60" AQUOS LC-60LE632U Owners Thread - Page 2

Originally Posted by DirkBelig

The black levels look good. After setting it up, I came home to my 4-year-old 42" Philips LCD and looked at the grayish matte bars and got sad and that's a decent-looking set.

I have some faint clouds which are only visible during credits with white text on black or when it's switching inputs before the signal comes through. On extremely dark material, like the last Harry Potter movie, their was some minor clouding visible, but the bars remained solid black and there is no flashlighting. My girlfriend thinks I'm nitpicking and for 99% of the time, the clouds aren't visible. Compared to my old set, it's the least of its problems and I'm not going to have a cow over it.

Originally Posted by mark62

i have read the amazon reviews, however i think most of them are from joe 6 packs and while it does get good reviews i dont rely heavily on them. i worry about clouding and light bleed and flashlighting mostly and that demographic wouldnt know clouding if they saw it and wouldnt care anyway.

i am a plasma guy but im on my 4th plasma in 3 months because all of the manufactures are having issues with plasmas this year that are truly defects.

i am prolly gonna get the 60 632 and try it out, amazon has been great with me so far but if i try to return another display i dont what they will do.

Originally Posted by lifesun

These are the same issues that I am concerned about. I will be keeping an eye out to see if and when you try this set. Amazon is not picking up my ST30 until Wednesday, and I don't know how long it will take to credit my account so you will most likely get yours before me. I am still torn on trying this set, the cheaper 79U or getting the top LG Plasma the PZ950. I just tried Uncharted 3 on my PZ450 and being that I played most of the game on the ST30, I don't think I am going to be able to accept these black levels.....

Originally Posted by mark62

the pz 950 also has the color flicker and i dont think the blacks are that much better than the 450? i also am worried about the blacks on the 632, if they are just a tad better than the 450 i will be ok with that.

i will be making my final decision on tuesday so i might not get it before you. you should ask for a advanced refund from amazon, they will give it to you if you call. what it means is that they will credit you when the returned tv gets loaded on the delivery truck, the next day you should see a credit to your account.

Originally Posted by lifesun

Hmm, I might have to try that with Amazon. Yeah, I just read over in the LG tweaks thread that someone adjusted the pots on the 750 and is not impressed with the MLL, so I don't think the 950 will be much better..... I agree, if I can get slightly better blacks than the 450 and minimal clouding I am really leaning toward LCD again, won't have to worry about IR, will be brighter for daytime and might even save a little on the electric bill.....I really wish someone had a MLL measurement for this set!

Originally Posted by mark62

me too, wish i knew what this set MLL was.

another thing i have not read about is shadow detail on this set, i value shadow detail and i know a lot of LCD's turn shadow detail into a black blob mess....

in the end i will prolly get this sit, hope it works out well for me as this will be #6 for me in the last 3 months.

Originally Posted by DaGamePimp

A properly calibrated 632 should impress both of you regarding BL and shadow detail (hopefully you get units with little clouding/flash-lighting).

Jason

Originally Posted by lifesun

Well thats good news, the more I keep researching the more I want to give this set a shot!

Originally Posted by mark62

im 90% sure that i am going to get this set. im excited, anxious and worried at the same time. if i get one that doesnt have bad clouding, flashlighting i think i will like it.

besides the pink tint issue i have on the panny plasma, i have not been totally satisfied with the total brightness of it, it is rather dim even in my dark room, bright sunny days in movies look overcast.

wont be able to order it for about a week, wish me luck!

Originally Posted by mark62

the pz 950 also has the color flicker and i dont think the blacks are that much better than the 450? i also am worried about the blacks on the 632, if they are just a tad better than the 450 i will be ok with that.

i will be making my final decision on tuesday so i might not get it before you. you should ask for a advanced refund from amazon, they will give it to you if you call. what it means is that they will credit you when the returned tv gets loaded on the delivery truck, the next day you should see a credit to your account.

Originally Posted by lifesun

Thanks again for the heads up regarding Amazon Mark. I called this morning, and all I need to do is call back once the return is confirmed on the truck and I will get the refund credited. Really looking forward to giving this 632 a shot, hopefully it works out!

Originally Posted by mark62

no problem!

funny thing is i didnt see the color flicker on 24p blu ray, but on dvd and dish it was awful. it didnt happen all the time but i could always count on it with football.

ive been doing some searching and the LG's MLL was between .02-.04., the sharps that i find reviews on that are similar are around .01, that aint too bad, but nowhere close the the panny but better than the LG. also i noticed that all the sharp 60" sets are edge lit and all of them get good reviews on amazon, but cnet has trashed a couple of the sharps, dont remember which ones but one was a high end 70".

i need to call amazons large items dept today, i dont want to wait until they call me tuesday, but i hate doing that because i will get someone different and have to explain everything all over again.

im excited about this 632, but after all ive been thru with getting something im happy with, itll be my luck ill get a bad one.. lol...

Originally Posted by lifesun

Hmmm, interesting on the MLL ratings. Where did you happen to find the numbers on the Sharp? Only guessing, but after the pots tweak I would think that my LG is closer to .009, but that would be a slim margin compared to the Sharp with the numbers you found.

It was horrible watching X Men last night, the brightness fluctuations never seemed to stop!

Hopefully you get this all worked out soon!

Thanks again,

Originally Posted by mark62

well it is official i called amazon and they are picking up the ST, as soon as i get a refund i will put the order in for the 632. i am looking forward to it having more POP and if the black levels are a little better than the LG i am good with that, oh also worried about shadow detail but chads reviews seem positive, altho not for this exact size and/or model, it seems sharp as its shite together and is a big find that most seem to shun...

i found the MLL for the sharps at cnet and chadB's reviews, chads reviews were for the 80 632 and the 70 732 or 735 something like that. the reason i put a little faith into the numbers is because they are all .01 for all of them or a little better. just a note the pots tweak created other problems for me, ex. i put up a gray slide and the uniformity was terrible.

i love the blacks on the ST, ive never seen black like that, so inky, so i hope it hasnt jaded me. but now i just look for pink, which isnt really that bad and maybe im being to picky, but be damned i want something that i have piece of mind with.

Originally Posted by DaGamePimp

No sync issues here but then I am using Game mode. I can see how having all the 'processing' enabled could cause sync issues.

Jason

Originally Posted by mark62

DaGamePimp, does this 632 not handle 24p properly? seems being a 120Hz set it would handle 24p. not questioning you, just asking since you seem to know your stuff.

Originally Posted by lifesun

This makes me a little nervous as well Mark, just responded about this. You may actually get your 632 before me, because I am still on the fence about what to do. I posted over in the plasma thread regarding the FBR issue on the LG, and what I am seeing may not be the FBR that you were talking about. If this is the case, I may still just keep the 450, or look into the 950. Then again, I am starting to get more curious about CES to see whats coming in a few months. I have an LG 47 inch 5300 that I am pretty happy with even though its a lower end LG. However, it does have local dimming, so if they release a similar set in a 60 inch version this year, I might wait for it.....

Originally Posted by DaGamePimp

I don't want people to buy this set based upon my comments, please do your research, I am just trying to answer questions and give my (overly critical*) impressions.

* I see things that most people do not notice until pointed out and even some things that many do not see after pointed out, years of CRT front projection/calibration did this to my eyes (I see every little flaw).

There are trade-off's with every set out there, even the mighty Kuro was not flawless. As we have learned getting a solid set can be luck of the draw and beyond that we all see things a bit different and place value on different aspects/qualities of an image.

With that said I wish those of you considering the 60LE632 the best of luck.

Jason

Originally Posted by mark62

i have not owned what you have, but i do have a critical eye, that is why i tried to buy a plasma. i have owned both lcd and plasma, but the last lcd i owned was 4 years ago. so i have my reservations buying this but i am going to try it. i take all that i read and put it all together to make my final decision. seeing that you have critical eye helps, but ChadB's comments combined with yours and reading the joe 6 packs reviews on amazon and BB make me believe that this is a very good display if i get a good one.

i have totally run out of options with plasmas so i dont have choice... LG= color flicker, samsung= brightness pops, panasonic= poor uniformity...pink tinting, green blobs, and a rather dim picture for my taste, makes bright sunny days in movies look overcast.

ive spent many of hours reading this board and others, several hundred hours....

so i really, really hope i get a good one. i read that there may be a way to get rid of the the clouding if mine has it.

Originally Posted by lifesun

Still really leaning toward giving this set a shot as well. I have narrowed my choices down to this set and the LG PZ950 plasma, however, the more I read on that thread the more I think it has too many issues..... I also just went through the CES info, and nothing really amazed me, or is pressing me to wait for the 2012 models......at least in the 60 inch segment.

I am going to be out of town quite a bit this month for work, so you will most likely get your set well before me. I look forward to your impressions, especially coming from the exact same plasmas that I would be comparing it too!

Originally Posted by mark62

he said the one he calibrated had clouding but before he arrived to calibrate the set the owner "wiped" the screen and when he saw it it had no clouding. so if you havent read his review of the 80" do so, he said the review applies to the 60" too

Originally Posted by gordon7

Calibrations posted for 633 didn't work well for me and produced people with clay like faces, so I tweaked it myself to my liking.

Originally Posted by DirkBelig

I found that the settings posted by josay in the 633 thread gave sickly clay face until I zeroed out the Color and Tint controls to 0 from the +7 and -7 he had them at. I'm finding skintones, especially on news/talk shows to be much healthier.

Originally Posted by DirkBelig

1. What does "wiped the screen" mean?