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post #1351 of 3037
3/17/12 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by Lt.Aldo.Raine View Post

I just set up my 3010 and my PS3 is not recognizing my 3D blu rays...i have tried 3 of them. Is there something i have to do to the PS3.......I does not recognize my 3010 a being a 3D display...Is there a setting on the Epson that i have to use ?thanks for your help


Here is my receiver http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-Chann...1919835&sr=8-1




Update your Ps3 to the latest firmware and if it doesn't solve your issue than it's your HDMI cable. Also this is 5010/6010 thread. the 3010 have a thread of it owns.
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post #1352 of 3037
3/17/12 at 6:29pm
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^^^ IIRC, It must also be a slim PS3 for 3D playback???
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post #1353 of 3037
3/17/12 at 8:23pm
Ok, so I bit the bullet and bought a 6010 today. I've got to say, it really is on a different level than my old 1080UB. We just finished watching Tangled in 3D. Truly amazing! Everything seems to be working fine right out of the box. Convergence looks fine, maybe off half a pixel of blue in the upper left, but nothing that can be seen from a normal viewing distance.

I'm a happy camper so far!
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post #1354 of 3037
3/18/12 at 9:30am
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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post

^^^ IIRC, It must also be a slim PS3 for 3D playback???

The fat PS3s play 3D also.
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post #1355 of 3037
3/18/12 at 10:20am
I didn't see this mentioned in this thread yet. (My apologies if it already was.)

Update for the epson tw9000(5010) is ready



From the above linked thread is this post:
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Originally Posted by Elkhunter View Post

To check your firmware:

1. Press and hold the Menu button for at least 8 seconds - then release it.

2. Press the Esc button twice.

3. Select the second page (Versions) by pressing the right navigation button once.

4. The projector's current firmware is the last three digits of the first line (P).

5. To exit - press the Menu button once.


According to Epson (I called them today), the current firmware is 104. It was released on Feb 2nd. The tech said that it corrects an alignment bug when the projector's were ceiling mounted.

Good news:
They are working on a user upgradeable method, which will be available "soon" - possibly in a week! The firmware will be sent out via email.
...


The part I've been waiting for is this:
"...it corrects an alignment bug when the projector's were ceiling mounted."

If this is true, I might actually spring for a 5010 (assuming it has, or can get the proper firmware...)
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post #1356 of 3037
3/18/12 at 11:04am
Well, that process does not work on the 5010, that must be a menu specific to the 9000 model. Is there a service menu for the 5010 at all?
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post #1357 of 3037
3/18/12 at 11:21am
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Originally Posted by FreyTheater View Post

Well, that process does not work on the 5010, that must be a menu specific to the 9000 model. Is there a service menu for the 5010 at all?

It is probably the same procedure as Pixel Alignment ---

EPSON SERVICE MENU
1. Press the Menu-Button and hold for 8 sec.
2. Press the ESC-Button twice
3. Press the "Left-Arrow"-Button
4. Repeat Steps 1-3
Then a new submenu should appear in the "Advanced"-Submenu,
where you can correct the pixel alignment...
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post #1358 of 3037
3/18/12 at 11:30am
No sir, nothing happens when you press and hold the menu button for 8 seconds on a 5010, other than the regular menu pops up the moment you press the menu button. The Pixel Alignment controls in the 5010 are in the regular menu, under the "Extended" tab, and not in a separate service menu like the 9000 has. If the 5010 has a service menu, it is a different process to access it than the tw9000.

There is no mention of firmware revision in the regular menu, and I even checked all the labels on the original box as well. No indication of a firmware revison there, either.
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post #1359 of 3037
3/18/12 at 6:29pm
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Originally Posted by FreyTheater View Post

No sir, nothing happens when you press and hold the menu button for 8 seconds on a 5010, other than the regular menu pops up the moment you press the menu button. The Pixel Alignment controls in the 5010 are in the regular menu, under the "Extended" tab, and not in a separate service menu like the 9000 has. If the 5010 has a service menu, it is a different process to access it than the tw9000.

There is no mention of firmware revision in the regular menu, and I even checked all the labels on the original box as well. No indication of a firmware revison there, either.

Strange, it works on my 6010.

Hold Menu for 8 seconds...let go then hit ESC twice.
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post #1360 of 3037
3/18/12 at 7:06pm
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Originally Posted by toofast68 View Post

Strange, it works on my 6010.

Hold Menu for 8 seconds...let go then hit ESC twice.

Cool! So which firmware version do you have?
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post #1361 of 3037
3/19/12 at 5:28am
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Originally Posted by Metabolic View Post

Cool! So which firmware version do you have?

100 - guess that must be the original.
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post #1362 of 3037
3/19/12 at 6:47am
I just got my Epson 5010 (i had 3010 but exchanged it) Friday and i am using a 25 ft 1.4 HDMI cord going from my projector to my receiver (Onkyo TX-NR609) and i am using a PS3 as my blu-ray player...I am getting constant blinking when playing 3D movies and games... The cord is new as well....It is a $12 cord i got off Amazon. The HDMI i am using going from the receiver to the PS3 is a 3ft 1.3 HDMI.....I have a new 1.4 3 ft cord coming tomorrow and new more expensive 25 ft 1.4 cord coming tomorrow as well.....I am guessing it is the cord being the problem because of how cheap it is....i really can not think of anything else.....Any thoughts
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post #1363 of 3037
3/19/12 at 6:55am
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Originally Posted by Lt.Aldo.Raine View Post

I just got my Epson 5010 Friday and i am using a 25 ft 1.4 HDMI cord going from my projector to my receiver (Onkyo TX-NR609) and i am using a PS3 as my blu-ray player...I am getting constant blinking when playing 3D movies and games... The cord is new as well....It is a $12 cord i got off Amazon. The HDMI i am using going from the receiver to the PS3 is a 3ft 1.3 HDMI.....I have a new 1.4 3 ft cord coming tomorrow and new more expensive 25 ft 1.4 cord coming tomorrow as well.....I am guessing it is the cord being the problem because of how cheap it is....i really can not think of anything else.....Any thoughts

Well I have the same setup, except I have a all good monoprice 1.4 HDMI cables.

Blinking is the sign of a bad cable...

You could test it by going STRAIGHT from the PS3 to the 5010 with the good HDMI. That would verify it is not the projector of course...

But I am 99% sure you will find once you have your new HDMI all will be good again.
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post #1364 of 3037
3/19/12 at 8:18am
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Originally Posted by Metabolic View Post

Cool! So which firmware version do you have?

Has anyone heard whether there is any way to update the firmware other than sending the projector back? Why would one care what version firmware they have if they can't update it anyway?
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post #1365 of 3037
3/19/12 at 8:31am
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Originally Posted by Metabolic View Post

The part I've been waiting for is this:
"...it corrects an alignment bug when the projector's were ceiling mounted."

If this is true, I might actually spring for a 5010 (assuming it has, or can get the proper firmware...)

The way I'm reading this, all this does is fix the fact that when doing convergence alignment, the indicated "box" is in the wrong corner. This doesn't seem like a good reason to hold off on this projector...

It seems as though you are reading this as "a ceiling mounted projector with some offset will no longer have the convergence issues that have been reported in the forum."

-Kevin
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post #1366 of 3037
3/19/12 at 8:47am
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Originally Posted by dna View Post

Has anyone heard whether there is any way to update the firmware other than sending the projector back? Why would one care what version firmware they have if they can't update it anyway?

You missed this part:
"Good news:
They are working on a user upgradeable method, which will be available "soon" - possibly in a week! The firmware will be sent out via email."

Hopefully that path will actually materialize.
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post #1367 of 3037
3/19/12 at 8:52am
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Originally Posted by KevinG View Post

The way I'm reading this, all this does is fix the fact that when doing convergence alignment, the indicated "box" is in the wrong corner. This doesn't seem like a good reason to hold off on this projector...

It seems as though you are reading this as "a ceiling mounted projector with some offset will no longer have the convergence issues that have been reported in the forum."

-Kevin

You're right, holding off simply because the indicated "box" is in a wrong corner when ceiling mounted would be silly. I'm holding off because of the convergence issues. If the firmware update doesn't address that, then I guess I'm still holding off!
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post #1368 of 3037
3/19/12 at 9:20am
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Originally Posted by Metabolic View Post

You missed this part:
"Good news:
They are working on a user upgradeable method, which will be available "soon" - possibly in a week! The firmware will be sent out via email."

Hopefully that path will actually materialize.

Don't you think that if Epson intended the user to update firmware, they would have put an external USB port on the projector?
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post #1369 of 3037
3/19/12 at 10:11am
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Originally Posted by dna View Post

Don't you think that if Epson intended the user to update firmware, they would have put an external USB port on the projector?

I think what Epson intends vs. what they do are two different things. For instance, this projector was originally intended to have "motorized pixel alignment" and we all know that that's not what you got.

In anycase, there is an RS232 port on these projectors. USB to RS232 adapters are pretty cheap.

Worse case, Epson only allows dealers to update the firmware. As long as you can get the firmware updated (one way or another) to improve things, that's what really matters here.
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post #1370 of 3037
3/19/12 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by Metabolic View Post

I think what Epson intends vs. what they do are two different things. For instance, this projector was originally intended to have "motorized pixel alignment" and we all know that that's not what you got.

In anycase, there is an RS232 port on these projectors. USB to RS232 adapters are pretty cheap.

Worse case, Epson only allows dealers to update the firmware. As long as you can get the firmware updated (one way or another) to improve things, that's what really matters here.

Yep totally agree!
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post #1371 of 3037
3/19/12 at 11:01am
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Originally Posted by Metabolic View Post

Worse case, Epson only allows dealers to update the firmware.

Thanks. I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm just my usual pessimistic self. I doubt that the typical on-line business (like Visual Apex where I bought my 5010) has the facilities to do anything other than move boxes and money around. If there are firmware upgrades, perhaps Epson would handle it themselves. Fortunately, other than lack of the mythical motorized pixel alignment feature and the cheap toy-like lens mechanics, I'm pretty happy with my projector as it is.
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post #1372 of 3037
3/19/12 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by Metabolic View Post

You're right, holding off simply because the indicated "box" is in a wrong corner when ceiling mounted would be silly. I'm holding off because of the convergence issues. If the firmware update doesn't address that, then I guess I'm still holding off!

Firmware isn't going to fix panel alignment. It is a physical problem. The convergence adjustment is a software fix for a hardware problem, much like keystone adjustment.
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post #1373 of 3037
3/19/12 at 3:40pm
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Originally Posted by charlievoviii View Post

Update your Ps3 to the latest firmware and if it doesn't solve your issue than it's your HDMI cable. Also this is 5010/6010 thread. the 3010 have a thread of it owns.

I have the ps3 -> onkyo ->5010. My ps3 wouldn't recognize the 3d display either, so I had to hook up the ps3 direct ps3 -> 5010 then setup the display. After it was set I could hook it back up to through the amp and it works fine. Wish they would just put a switch in there we could set.
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post #1374 of 3037
3/19/12 at 7:03pm
I have Sanyo Z2000 since close to 4 years. The PJ is running very well so far (knock on wood..)
However I was just exploring the options in case I need replacement in near future.
My only issue is (not very big issue though), I have DVI-Dual Link running from my Denon 1909 to Sanyo Z2000. Just to give you an idea, please see below the connections

PS3 -> HDMI -> Denon 1909 -> HDMI-DVI adapter --- 25' DVI cable (In celing) -->DVI-HDMI adapter -> Sanyo Z2000

By basic questions are

1. Does Denon 1909 pass thru 3D ? (I guess not..)
2. Will DVI cable be able to carry the 3D signals w/o issues or I must run HDMI (I believe this should be possible as I do not need audio to PJ)

Appreciate your response..
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post #1375 of 3037
3/19/12 at 7:47pm
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Originally Posted by wnielsenbb View Post

Firmware isn't going to fix panel alignment. It is a physical problem. The convergence adjustment is a software fix for a hardware problem, much like keystone adjustment.

Are you saying that the current software based convergence adjustment cannot possibly be improved by a firmware update?
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post #1376 of 3037
3/19/12 at 9:32pm
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Originally Posted by Lt.Aldo.Raine View Post

I just got my Epson 5010 (i had 3010 but exchanged it) Friday and i am using a 25 ft 1.4 HDMI cord going from my projector to my receiver (Onkyo TX-NR609) and i am using a PS3 as my blu-ray player...I am getting constant blinking when playing 3D movies and games... The cord is new as well....It is a $12 cord i got off Amazon. The HDMI i am using going from the receiver to the PS3 is a 3ft 1.3 HDMI.....I have a new 1.4 3 ft cord coming tomorrow and new more expensive 25 ft 1.4 cord coming tomorrow as well.....I am guessing it is the cord being the problem because of how cheap it is....i really can not think of anything else.....Any thoughts

Could you please tell me, in your opinion if the 5010 is worth the extra dough. I have the 3010 and it is impressive but i am thinking of upgrading as well? thanks for any reply.
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post #1377 of 3037
3/19/12 at 11:43pm
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Originally Posted by Metabolic View Post

Are you saying that the current software based convergence adjustment cannot possibly be improved by a firmware update?

well, they can fix it so the right corner is adjusted when ceiling mounted. The software convergence works quite well for what it is, but to truly fix convergence it needs hardware work.
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post #1378 of 3037
3/19/12 at 11:50pm
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Originally Posted by aaranddeeman View Post

I have Sanyo Z2000 since close to 4 years. The PJ is running very well so far (knock on wood..)
However I was just exploring the options in case I need replacement in near future.
My only issue is (not very big issue though), I have DVI-Dual Link running from my Denon 1909 to Sanyo Z2000. Just to give you an idea, please see below the connections

PS3 -> HDMI -> Denon 1909 -> HDMI-DVI adapter --- 25' DVI cable (In celing) -->DVI-HDMI adapter -> Sanyo Z2000

By basic questions are

1. Does Denon 1909 pass thru 3D ? (I guess not..)
2. Will DVI cable be able to carry the 3D signals w/o issues or I must run HDMI (I believe this should be possible as I do not need audio to PJ)

Appreciate your response..

1) 99.5% chance that it won't. I downgraded to a Onkyo 809 to get 3D switching. As a plus it also has 4k upscaling.
2) Shouldn't be a problem, DVI has higher bandwith than HDMI, and DVI can carry audio (as I found much to my suprise when sound started coming out of my acer 5360 hooked up into the DVI of my computer), but like you said, not an issue.
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post #1379 of 3037
3/20/12 at 9:53am
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Originally Posted by blipszyc View Post

Are folks getting good deals when purchasing the 6010 or 5010? Please PM with any recommendations for an internet dealer.

im interested in 6010 too. did you get any interesting deals ?
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post #1380 of 3037
3/20/12 at 10:10am
I unscrewed the small panel on the back of my 5010 next to the lock port and there is a USB port behind it. It appears to be a mini USB. Anyone see this before or know of its uses besides a firmware upgrade??
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