Official Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 5010 / 6010 thread - Page 55

Originally Posted by cwt

This "H 67.56 kHz V 60.05 Hz Not Supported." has happened to me when switching between hdmi 1 and hdmi 2 with my oppo 95 so your not alone I havent had reason to switch this way [as I usually decide either hd pvr input or oppo input exclusively ].

Maybe theres a chance its an undocumented fix in the new 104 firmware -never know? . In the meantime as its obviously linked to the hdmi handshaking locking a possible workaround is using the hdmi link cec . I know this normally is best left off for all sorts of components but maybe have a play with it ;the 9000/6010 has options for 2 way comms and one way ;may have an effect .

Originally Posted by VRDnhorns

There is a fix for Oppo - Epson HDMI Issue. I contacted Oppo on Saturday and by Sunday they sent a link to a USB method Firmware update. Oppo said Runco and Nad have similiar issue. Can not ask for better suport!

Originally Posted by kvsub

I am trying to order the projector mount for EPson 5010 from Monoprice.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...09&cp_id=10911

The Tech support in MonoPrice is not 100 % sure whether these projector mounts will work with 5010 (For example, the first one listed in the above link) and they are asking distance between mounting holes for 5010. I am not finding this information anywhere. Has anyone here purchased ceiling mounts from Monoprice and installed successfully. If yes, pls share the product code #.

Originally Posted by homerjr43

I purchased this mount

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

but had to modify it with a two steel plates and some locking bolts i picked up at Lowes for $8. All in all the mount works great and I spent less than $30

Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman

No but then you can't adjust the projector side to side to align it to the screen.
The pipe/pole allows you to adjust the projector left-right to make the front of the projector parallel to the screen.
Without the pipe/pole, you must align the projector while mounting it to the ceiling.

Originally Posted by cwt

Thanks VRDhorns thats great news ; so far in Aus they want us to send our 9000's in to a service center for fear of bricking it with the 104 firmware rather than giving us the usb option thats in the wild

What a contrast with oppo's position ..

Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman

I'd advise people to upgrade to v1.04 they already haven't done so.
Just for the smoother side to side panning alone is worth the upgrade and the quieter iris is a big plus.

Originally Posted by jnabq

FW update thread for the Epson 5010/6010 here, http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1399426&page=8 if you havn't read it?

Send me a PM if I can help.

Originally Posted by cwt

at this stage want to see what our retailer out here will do 1st ; he may be more flexible than the distributor. In the back of my head is the possibility its a slightly different software for a non US tw9000 ?

Originally Posted by drhankz

YES Most people use the Peerless PRG-UNV Mount.

I bought mine at Amazon you can get it in WHITE or BLACK.

And don't forget the Peerless Industries - Peerless Round Ceiling Plate

Originally Posted by dazbug

Is there a custom ceiling plate that fits the 5010 projector? model number?

thx

Originally Posted by Motovet

I use both the vertical and horizontal shift with my limited placement, and it works just fine. Only off on the horizontal about 4", but above the top of the screen about 7".
Mine is the 5010, and it has a good image, but when compared to my pro clibrated plasma, it needs some work once I get some hours on it. Lumagen and chromapure standing by..........

Biggest issue I have right now is getting the 5010 to see the OPPO when I fire up a movie. All other inputs work flawlessly.

Originally Posted by BeachHomeTheater

I will be installing an Epson Pro Cinema 6010 3D projector and as I understand it they use an active polarized shutter system meaning you should not use a polarized screen has anyone used the 145" Vutec Silverstar 3D-P or 3D-A screen with this projector?

Originally Posted by Gil Arroyo

No 3D joy.

I'm using a 120 inch screen at 1.3 with the 5010 and even with the 'Dynamic 3D' automatic bright level (and it is very bright), I think that most of the movies like "Immortals" or "Conan" are too lacking in "picture pop" (Contrast Ratio) to be impressive. Almost all the 3D films with the exception of the IMAX 3D "demos" just do not have any impressive 3D content. People tell me that "Avatar" 3D does--?
I switched over to 2D; the movies look 100% better, and now I'm waiting for 4K to show up. Am I doing something wrong?
Comments?

Originally Posted by Gil Arroyo

You must turn on the OPPO (93 or 95) AFTER the Epson is on and HDMI 1 is selected. The HDCP screws up the selection process and is part of the movie industry tyranny to result in pay-per-view on all their stuff.

Originally Posted by Motovet

Hmmm. How can I use the Harmony then? Swithcing all on at once. I'm looking for the update and try that.

Originally Posted by seplant

Sounds like you're watching the wrong movies for best 3D experience. The type of movies you listed are too dark, for one thing. Animated movies are by far the best. Typically much brighter anyway, they can get away with exaggerating depth to make the 3D much more impressive. Try something like Legend of the Guardians or Monsters vs. Aliens. If these types of movies aren't your cup of tea, maybe you should stick to 2D.

Originally Posted by MississippiMan

I don't think that is very constructive advice. No one should have to limit their viewing selection to embrace 3D content having acceptable brightness.

It's been a well known, well discussed fact that 3D as shown by most of today's PJs needs the use of a screen of at least 1.7 gain,

Originally Posted by drhankz

I am Not sure what you are asking.

To me a ceiling plate is the flange that attaches to the Ceiling.
The answer to that question is - NO.

If you are asking about a Custom Plate for the Projector.
The answer is also - NO.
The Peerless PRG-UNV Mount works fine.

Originally Posted by drhankz

I strongly agree with MississippiMan.

I have been using Projectors since 1996 when the PJs used CRTs
which had marginal light. I installed a Screen with a GAIN of 2.0
DAY-ONE because of the low light from CRTs.

Today with my Epson 5010 - 2D in Eco mode is very bright and
in 3D mode is PERFECT.

It is about Screen Gain.

Originally Posted by drhankz

I strongly agree with MississippiMan.

I have been using Projectors since 1996 when the PJs used CRTs
which had marginal light. I installed a Screen with a GAIN of 2.0
DAY-ONE because of the low light from CRTs.

Today with my Epson 5010 - 2D in Eco mode is very bright and
in 3D mode is PERFECT.

It is about Screen Gain.

Originally Posted by MississippiMan

I don't think that is very constructive advice. No one should have to limit their viewing selection to embrace 3D content having acceptable brightness.

It's been a well known, well discussed fact that 3D as shown by most of today's PJs needs the use of a screen of at least 1.7 gain, and NOT because the content is too dark, but because the PJs cannot produce the content at a high enough Lumen level due to the PJs own inadequacies. This is born out by almost all 3D-capable PJs having a special "Brightness" output setting, as well as the fact that such complaints are seldom expressed by those with lower resolution 3D DLP PJs that have roughly 2x the Lumen output in 3D mode. Also by the fact that most 3D advocates tend to limit their Screens to at/under 110" diagonal, with many well under 100"s

Viewing conditions and room specs often play as much of if not a vital role in it all. 3D content must often be viewed in almost completely controlled lighting (Complete Darkness) when the content is not CGI-oriented, and because of the reduced lumen output, any degree of reflection of projected light off a nearby wall or ceiling surface can have a disproportionally adverse effect.

But above all else, the size of the screen and the placement distance of the projector are the most important factors to consider. maintaining the shortest Throw distance and the smallest screen area to match screen to PJ specs is the only right and correct way to get optimal performance.

In the case of Gil Arroyo, I sense two things as being complicit;

1. He already owned a 1.3 gain Screen of a particular size and could not / would not change to something more ideally suited for 3D content. (...unfortunate, but easily understandable...)

2. Experience viewing 2D Content via a PJ like the Epson is a spoiling affair, and used as a judgement against 3D view-ability, isn't really an appropriate bellwether to judge by considering 3Ds limitations at present as is in relation to 3D PJ displays.

Regardless, if the die is cast on screen size, the only possible remedy is changing the Throw distance of the PJ to within 10% of the minimum distance needed to fill his screen area. If Gil Arroyo is at the half-way point (...which seems to be the del-facto standard for most owners...) then such a change would effect a considerable improvement....probably all he would need. If he's at the far end of the Throw distance potential, the difference would be almost exponential.

If he's already at the closest possible throw distance, without going with a higher gain surface, he's essentially at an impasse.

Originally Posted by Gil Arroyo

Additionally, high gain screens have hot spots and other problems like true color reponse. Not about to switch screens.
Thanks for the comments. gil