Official Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 5010 / 6010 thread - Page 66

About to pull the trigger on 3D glasses for my 5010. Does anyone find the Epson glasses too heavy to sit through a 2 hour movie? If yes, other options of lighter IR glasses that provide similar performance and are more comfortable? Monstervision, Xpand, Blick, Panasonic? Need guidance instead of trying them all out and returning.

42Plasmaman, Thanks. I'll go with the Epson glasses. Read a number of posts talking about lighter weight glasses and pinch between the ears, however, I prefer a larger viewing window.

Okay I finally found the root of my stuttering problem when using an epson 5010+ nvidia HTPC. It turned out to be a refresh rate issue and not a projector issue(I have the replacement compared side by side and both are producing the same results). When watching TaB movies, and some SBS movies, the stuttering is terrible and causes headaches. The problem is that my nvidia card had a broken driver, and couldn't switch my resolution to 23hz. Now after some reinstall of the drivers, I can turn on 23hz and the stuttering problem mostly went away. Now nvidia cards can't refresh at the perfect 23.976hz (my projector sees it at 23.999mhz). This still causes a little stutter but I can live with it, unless someone knows how to time the nvidia card to play 23.976hz perfectly.

I currently use an Acer H7531D DLP projector. I'm fairly happy with it except for the black levels (auto iris is slow). I keep reading that contrast on LCD projectors is so much better. Here's my problem. I am planning a new theater with a 150 inch screen. If you use the projectorcentral.com calculator, LCD projectors are not usually recommended for these sizes.

Is anyone using the 5010 for a 150 inch or larger screen? I read in this forum that the 5010 and the 6010 is basically the same projector except for the extras. projectorcentral's calculator has the 5010 going from 105-142 inches with a 1.0 gain screen, but the 6010 from 149-200. Is this a mistake?

A higher gain screen is not an option because I'll be having an acoustically transparent screen.
Edited by JeffreyJonesBSME - 6/7/12 at 5:57am

In my opinion, since you can't do a high gain screen...I think you will have to run in normal mode vs. eco....so it wil be a bit louder. But it will be plenty bright.

I guess my biggest concern is screen door effect if brightness is not a problem.

Guys,

I'm very close to jumping the gun on an Epson 5010 projector; this is going to be my first Projector. Wife & I have been busy trying to setup our extra room in the house as a home theater. I've got pretty much everything in place - the Projector/Screen is the last piece of the puzzle.

The room is completely dark; no windows or anything (There's one Window but we have that well covered); but it's a small room. I'm trying to get the best screen size that I can considering the dimensions of the room.

The throw distance is barely 119" ... which is about 9' 11". This is the distance from the Back Wall where I'll place the projector to the Front Wall where I'll put the screen. The Front Wall is 130" in Width (roughly 10' 10") and about 8' in Height. I'm hoping to get 96" Screen Size at least; someone else I know on this forum managed that with similar room dimensions as mine.

I've been somewhat indecided between Epson 5010 & Panasonic PT-AE7000U. Both are the exact same cost and share very similar specifications.

I think there are 2 factors I've come down to which are important for us:

- Best possible Screen Size given the small room dimensions
- Best 3D Performance

My wife is big on 3D ... we have quite a few 3D Blu-rays and they keep stacking by the month. Currently we have a Samsung 63" PN63C8000 3D Plasma .... and it's great! There is "some" Ghosting & Crosstalk --- but it's very content dependent. Some movies I won't see any at all, like Captain America; and others I will see quite a bit, like Transformers.

How is the 5010 in terms of Ghosting & Crosstalk? How's 3D on this Projector?

I also wanted to make sure that no new model is about to drop very soon that's going to be better then either of these two; I know they keep reducing Ghosting/Crosstalk and making the technology better & better with each new released. Now I don't want to wait for another 6 months --- I'm going to purchase within a month. But I know these projectors have been out for a while - so just want to make sure.

I've gone through the detailed comparison/review by projector people ... and quite honestly that didn't help me decide either; they are both very similar.

The only other question I have is ... if I do pick the Epson 5010, I know that most Internet Retailers, including our AVS Sponsors, are selling it for $2599 .... can I get a better price then that from anywhere at all? (Please feel free to PM me).

Thanks Guys!!!

If you are big into 3D, the Epson 5010 is going to be one of the best 3D performers out there for current projectors. It has the brightest 3D image available, and basically no ghosting at all. I do not see any ghosting at all on my 5010, using the Epson glasses, unless I crank all the 3D settings to the max, and even then there is very little. At normal settings, it is non-exisitant to my eyes. I'm projecting on a 120" screen from about 13.5 feet away.

According to Projector Central's projector calculator, at 9' 11" you can still get a 100" - 102" diagonal 16:9 image on the screen with the 5010, so you should be good with a 96" screen, or possibly even a 100" screen at full zoom... the image brightness may drop off some at full zoom, but the projector will be close enough that bightness shouldn't really suffer...
Edited by FreyTheater - 6/7/12 at 9:56am

Some people actually defocus slightly to offset the problem.

Frey -- that is very, very promising!! Thank you so much for your input. I think you've pretty much tied it down for me to the Epson 5010. I'm going to bump the Panasonic out of the race at this point & solely focus on 5010.

I might actually hit you up once I have the 5010 in my hands to take a look at your settings; that would be of tremendous help to me when I'm setting it up - especially for the 3D performance. And yes, we're very big into 3D. I know in sheer numbers the 3D titles are extremely small compared to non-3D ... but we really enjoy what we have and the titles grow by the week.

I also used the Elite Projector Calculator and it gave me 102" ... on the conservative side, I should definitely get 90"+ and I'm happy with that.

I will have an HTPC (Intel Sandy Bridge 3D), a 3D Blu-ray Player, Comcast HD Cable & XBOX 360 connected to the Projector via my Yamaha RX-A2000 Reciever in a 7.1 Speaker Configuration.

I will keep your note handy, in case I need to - I'll might look this up. Thanks!!

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Now I'm mainly looking for a good deal - a better price then what's out there. I need to get the 5010, 2 3D Glasses and maybe even the screen bundled up.

I cant wait for my 5010 to arrive early next week. I just bought a 235:1 elite screen that is around 12 ft in length

without power focus it is almost impossible not to have your image slightly defocused

This was my biggest problem over my old panny ae-2000 with it's awesome smoothscreen technology. I sit 7' from my 120" screen. SDE was painfully obvious at first. Your brain learns to ignore it after a few days though. I don't notice it at all now.

One of the posts was probably mine. It is perfectly possible to watch 2+ hour movies with the Epson glasses. It's just that I find the Panasonics more pleasant to wear, since the Epson's weight on the nose and the slight pinch behind the ears become a bit uncomfortable after a while. But this is just my personal experience and may be different for you. I'm certain you will have fun with either of them.

Does anyone else have a problem with screen door effect in the 5010e? I have an elite 92 and it is very annoying durring bright scenes and 3d would a different screen help at all?

Are you within 4' ?

Thanks for the feedback. I'll start off by purchasing a pair of the Epson glasses and if it feels uncomfortable, I'll check out the Panasonic model.

Upon reading Art's 5010 review he said the epsons were more comfortable and he has a head the size of a watermelon

I sit 12 ft from screen projector is 13 ft back as well you can still see vertical lines 15 ft from screen too

Just for verification, you have a 92" 16:9 screen and sit 12' away and can see SDE? How many vertical lines can you see?

I think this might be another issue....don't know what....but SDE at the size and distance doesn't add up to me. Do you have a local dealer with a 5010/6010 up that you can visit for a point of reference?

Thanks. Luckily my head is not as big as a watermelon. This gives me more assurance to stick with the Epson glasses. Appears to be the right choice.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but from that 9' 11" wall to wall dimension you need to subtract the length of the projector (about 16") to get the throw distance as measured from the lens. Plugging 8' 7" into the calculator only gives a maximum diagonal screen size of 88 inches.
I know, sucks doesn't it. You can bounce the image off a mirror to gain extra throw. I mocked it up in my own room and it wasn't as complicated as it may seem. If you are interested PM me and I will pass on what little I know.

I'm not at all sure that would be the case. I'm a proponent of "The Biggest Picture Possible", most will agree, but viewing 150" diagonal from 10' is way into "IMAX Submersion" country, and if someone has vision of at least 20-20 (corrected or native) or better, when bright white or light pastel content is shown, there will be a slight degree of image grid structure visible.

Personally, I'd be the first person to dismiss any real concern....if it was a 120" diagonal from 10'. But 150"s? Well, all I'm saying is I'd advise against suggesting to anyone that there would be no Grid lines visible. Of course the image will still be stunning and clear......but it only takes someone noticing even a slight amount of image noise (...we'll call it this in this instance....) just once, and damn....they'll notice it every time afterward. Sour Grapes Syndrome sets in....and it all becomes less of a "Warm & Fuzzy" experience.

Let's not even tell JeffreyJonesBSME about what will happen if any "real" noise is viewed from 10' on 150" (SD and most Up Converted content)

No....as much as I like every Epson 5010 / 6010 I've installed, 150" @ 10' demands SXRD / LyCos panels. Or the realization and acceptance of the limitations inherent in the aforementioned set-up going in.

His post did sound like he was not taking the projector itself into account; I was assuming he was giving the distance from where the lens would be posotioned - but, maybe not...

Plus, from hanging the screen, there may be a few more inches to subtract if the screen is not flush to the wall. A motorized screen with a housing at the top would put the screen surface an inch or two away from the wall itself...
Edited by FreyTheater - 6/9/12 at 7:58am

i just ordered a carada 96" bw screen because I think it is the elite screen that I am using because I dont see it when I use it on the wall so hopefully that is it. now I have a 2" red blob on the bottom left side of my screen that I can see in black scenes probably gonna have to call epson on monday

I got some epson glasses in the mail today and I have to say they are loose on the head? I cant believe they think everyone has a huge melon head as I'm more of a Mr potato head << gimi glasses that fit epson

I fully recommend the panasonic glasses because they are extremely light and comfortable. I have returned all my epson glasses because I had actual pain around my nose and back of my head after 2 hours of tron. I have a big head so the glasses are a bit tight on my head(and I have adjusted the glasses to max setting). Also the glasses are probably 1.5 times the weight of a panasonic, so you'll definitely feel them after awhile.

There's a slight tint to the panasonic, which makes it a little less bright than the epsons(but you'll stop noticing it after a minute of getting used to the glasses). Also the 3d->2d mode is a good feature on the panasonic, and the batteries are rechargeable (unlike the epsons).