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post #1981 of 3334
Well after waiting for the mount and HDMI cables I finally got my 5010 setup over the weekend. And all I have to say is WOW. I hooked up Directv and my PS3 as well. Ran through some channels and everything looks great. Did some minor calibrations (as recommended on Art's website), I will wait to further calibrate after a few hours have passed. My buddy who used to work for an audio visual company said he would help me fine tune it in a month or so.

The first movie I watched with the wife was the Dark Knight, absolutely amazing.

I did have one question though and I wanted someone's opinion while were are currently talking about distance. I set my projector up it is 13' away from my screen which is 108". Should I have any concern about this distance or do you guys think I am ok?




Waiting to purchase 3D glasses until I have some 3D movies to watch.


Thanks to all of you for your input so far. I am 100% happy with my purchase of the 5010.
post #1982 of 3334
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Originally Posted by More_Cow_Bell View Post

Well after waiting for the mount and HDMI cables I finally got my 5010 setup over the weekend. And all I have to say is WOW. I hooked up Directv and my PS3 as well. Ran through some channels and everything looks great. Did some minor calibrations (as recommended on Art's website), I will wait to further calibrate after a few hours have passed. My buddy who used to work for an audio visual company said he would help me fine tune it in a month or so.
The first movie I watched with the wife was the Dark Knight, absolutely amazing.
I did have one question though and I wanted someone's opinion while were are currently talking about distance. I set my projector up it is 13' away from my screen which is 108". Should I have any concern about this distance or do you guys think I am ok?
Waiting to purchase 3D glasses until I have some 3D movies to watch.
Thanks to all of you for your input so far. I am 100% happy with my purchase of the 5010.

you could go a bit closer, but 13' certainly works...better than be 19' away ! Not sure if a foot closer would do a whole lot though.

glad it is working out for you, I agree, great projector!
post #1983 of 3334
Is it normal to have ghosting in almost every shot when having the projector on 3d brightness to max and this is running TaB Mvk files?. I noticed a lot of ghosting in Hugo using Panny 3rd Gen.
post #1984 of 3334
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Originally Posted by Singuy View Post

Is it normal to have ghosting in almost every shot when having the projector on 3d brightness to max and this is running TaB Mvk files?. I noticed a lot of ghosting in Hugo using Panny 3rd Gen.

Mmmm, not sure exactly what you are running....but I rarely if ever see any ghosting in actual movies.

Perhaps the files are setup differently and you need to "manually" configure the 3D, i.e. side side vs. top bottom ?
post #1985 of 3334
This is outputting from a HTPC running at 23hz via VLC player. The original format is Top and Bottom. Maybe it's a HTPC side effect.
post #1986 of 3334
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Originally Posted by Singuy View Post

This is outputting from a HTPC running at 23hz via VLC player. The original format is Top and Bottom. Maybe it's a HTPC side effect.

Yeah sorry, I really have no experience with that setup...someone else will have to chime in.
post #1987 of 3334
Hello,

Just wanted to ask whether the bars on top and bottom when you are watching a 2:35 aspect ratio blu-ray are black or light gray ?
Mine are light gray and not true black....
post #1988 of 3334
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Originally Posted by ANDYK48 View Post

Hello,
Just wanted to ask whether the bars on top and bottom when you are watching a 2:35 aspect ratio blu-ray are black or light gray ?
Mine are light gray and not true black....

Black here, but some players have an option to set the these areas a different color shade. Check that.
post #1989 of 3334
I am playing my blu rays with an HTPC and I am using Arcsoft Total Media Theater 5.
I cannot find a setting to make the top bars appear black frown.gif
Does anyone know how to do this ?
post #1990 of 3334
Got the 5010 last night....... Blacks aint that great? I have a grey screen and the bars on a 235 movie dont look at all inky black? What a bunch of crap !!!!
post #1991 of 3334
After looking over some other users calibrations as well as Art's and noticed that most are leaving the auto iris off. In what instances should I turn it on?
post #1992 of 3334
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Originally Posted by dbox1080p View Post

Got the 5010 last night....... Blacks aint that great? I have a grey screen and the bars on a 235 movie dont look at all inky black? What a bunch of crap !!!!

So have you done ANY calibration ?

How dark is your room ?

What mode are you running ?

Something ain't right though...as most people find these guys pretty darn good at Blacks.
post #1993 of 3334
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Originally Posted by Rob from NJ View Post

Thanks. Luckily my head is not as big as a watermelon. This gives me more assurance to stick with the Epson glasses. Appears to be the right choice.

I wear a 7-5/8 hat. I don't know if that means that I have a watermelon head, but I found my Epson glasses to be a little tight.

I modified them with springs that are used to hold pictures in aluminium picture frames and shrink tubing.

So you can see how I positioned the springs, in the picture, see the one that I temporarily taped to an unmodified pair of glasses.

I then put tubing around the spring and the temples and heated it, causing it to shrink which compressed the spring and pulled the temples farther apart.

451
post #1994 of 3334
I had the iris on and in cinema with all the lights out in the room. Although my ceiling is off white my walls are dark and it was not a night and day with the epson 8100
post #1995 of 3334
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dbox1080p View Post

I had the iris on and in cinema with all the lights out in the room. Although my ceiling is off white my walls are dark and it was not a night and day with the epson 8100
ECO lamp mode?
post #1996 of 3334
Yes eco lamp and pulled the pj back to midzoom
post #1997 of 3334
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Originally Posted by ANDYK48 View Post

I am playing my blu rays with an HTPC and I am using Arcsoft Total Media Theater 5.
I cannot find a setting to make the top bars appear black frown.gif
Does anyone know how to do this ?
Make sure that you use matching video levels on the projector and on the PC. The 5010 has a setting called "video range" or similar under "signal". Try if changing that improves the image. On the PC it can be a bit tricky to find a configuration that works for all applications. ATI drivers have a "dynamic range" setting for this purpose.
post #1998 of 3334
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Originally Posted by karlsch View Post

I wear a 7-5/8 hat. I don't know if that means that I have a watermelon head, but I found my Epson glasses to be a little tight.
I modified them with springs that are used to hold pictures in aluminium picture frames and shrink tubing.
Brilliant idea! smile.gif Thanks for sharing.
post #1999 of 3334
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Originally Posted by karlsch View Post

I wear a 7-5/8 hat. I don't know if that means that I have a watermelon head, but I found my Epson glasses to be a little tight.
I modified them with springs that are used to hold pictures in aluminium picture frames and shrink tubing.
So you can see how I positioned the springs, in the picture, see the one that I temporarily taped to an unmodified pair of glasses.
I then put tubing around the spring and the temples and heated it, causing it to shrink which compressed the spring and pulled the temples farther apart.
451

Hat sizes are unpredictable. I wear a 7-3/8 and some hats fit great and others the same size are tight. Hopefully I don't have to get creative like you as my DIY skills are definitely lacking. Sounds like the Epson glasses will work fine for my 7-3/8 watermelon head. Anyway great idea.
post #2000 of 3334
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Originally Posted by ANDYK48 View Post

Hello,
Just wanted to ask whether the bars on top and bottom when you are watching a 2:35 aspect ratio blu-ray are black or light gray ?
Mine are light gray and not true black....

Same here andy, the bars aint really that black? Maybe we got crappy units? I wonder if there is some way to measure the contrast
post #2001 of 3334
Hello Epsonites!


I recently purchased a panny 4000 primarily for having the anamorphic lens emulator option. My home theater will be used for 100% movies (scope screen) so 16:9 screen ratio will be of little to no use to me. I have since read all the incredible reviews of this PJ. I also read that this PJ does not have lens memory like the panny. I wanted to know if I would have to pair this PJ with an anamorphic lens, or does it have a feature that would allow me to zoom to fill a scope screen? Thanks.
post #2002 of 3334
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dbox1080p View Post

Same here andy, the bars aint really that black? Maybe we got crappy units? I wonder if there is some way to measure the contrast
1. Do you have super white enabled?
If yes, try disabling it.

2. What is your source/player?
3. Try just turning on the projector and nothing else so it indicates a black picture and no source.
post #2003 of 3334
Hello Rigby,

The video levels on the PC are fine, I think smile.gif For desktop range is RGB full and for Video RGB limited all set in the CCC of the ATI card.
I have also checked for black crush or white clipping with various calibration disks e.g. Disney's WOW and everything seems OK.
The projector's video level is set to Auto.

dbox1080p, indeed the bars aren't black frown.gif When watching a movie the blacks inside the movie are OK but the bars on top and bottom are gray and this reduces the whole experience....

Can anyone post some photos with their projector and a 2:35 blu ray movie to see the color of the bars on top and bottom ?

Or if anybody can share their settings so we can check them against ours.

Thanks a lot.
post #2004 of 3334
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Originally Posted by dbox1080p View Post

Same here andy, the bars aint really that black? Maybe we got crappy units? I wonder if there is some way to measure the contrast

No, it's not your projectors. My 5010 is about 14ft from my 134in Carada BW 1.3 gain Criterion series. I made a post several pages back about the same thing. The top and bottom bars aren't that black at all and I even thought about trading the Brilliant White 1.3 gain for the 1.0 gain.
post #2005 of 3334
Hello wickedg8gt,

Glad to hear that ain't only us that noticed that the black bars aren't black but grey....and this distracts from the whole movie experience.
I cannot understand why nobody has mentioned this matter in any of the reviews, that praise the great blacks of the projector.

A friend of mine has an Infocus IN83 DLP projector and the bars on top and bottom are way much blacker than those with my EPSON projector......
post #2006 of 3334
Well, compared to my previous projector, an Optoma HD20 DLP projector, the Epson has way WAY less light in its black bars; it's inky black compared to DLP. Watch all your movies on a DLP projector for four years, and then maybe you'll appreciate more what you have... eek.gifrolleyes.gif

I have dimmable wall sconce lights along the sides of my theater walls with only 25-watt incandescent bulbs in them, and even at their lowest setting before the bulbs finally blink out, they cast more light that's visible on the black bars on the screen than what's being projected on them from the Epson. So I'm very pleased with the black levels on my 5010.
post #2007 of 3334
The Bars on my epson are almost the same as my 8100
post #2008 of 3334
does the 6010 support 4K/24P video signals?
post #2009 of 3334
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Originally Posted by ANDYK48 View Post

Hello wickedg8gt,
Glad to hear that ain't only us that noticed that the black bars aren't black but grey....and this distracts from the whole movie experience.
I cannot understand why nobody has mentioned this matter in any of the reviews, that praise the great blacks of the projector.
A friend of mine has an Infocus IN83 DLP projector and the bars on top and bottom are way much blacker than those with my EPSON projector......

I agree. I would love to get a masking system but I cant find one cheap enough. In fact I would venture to say that my 8350 on my very light grey screen was blacker.
post #2010 of 3334
My rooms dark and I put the 5010 on a grey screen and still no inky blacks ? Its not the 1.4 gain screen. The epson 5010 is just kinda crappy, I wish the rs45 had better 3D. That being said I just bought a 166" 235 screen and overshoot onto the dark wall and it gets round the problem. The 3D on the 5010 is the best I have ever seen in my life. There is no ghosting that people post and gave me anxiety about, its simply a 3d wonder machine where stuff floats in your room
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