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post #2071 of 3322
The current 30/50/6010 series is under a year old....Late Summer of 2014 will probably be the earlest. Get the 6010 so as to get "everything" Epson can offer you. At the Dearler level, the price has dropped so many can offer you a deal not far rmoved from the 5010's price.

Usually the 3 yr Warranty and Mount and Xtra Lamp add to much more value than the price difference...and it's Black.....and has the best image and 3D performance of the series.

What's not to love?

BTW.... unless you're a serious shoot im up gamer the lag time off on the 6010 is just not enough for you to be concerned about, And if any of Epson's projectors will get a firmware upgrade to address that issue, it will surely be the 6010.
Edited by MississippiMan - 6/28/12 at 9:30am
post #2072 of 3322
Has anyone experienced their 5010 not powering on with both a universal remote and Epson remote. I have this happen to me randomly and have to physically press the power button on my 5010 to power it on. Shutting it off with the remote is never a problem. I've called epson and they are clueless. Hdmi control is off. They would send me another unit but I don't want a refurb since I've only had the projector since feb and it works flawlessely other than that issue. What do you guys think?
post #2073 of 3322
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Originally Posted by MississippiMan View Post

Yeah...the 6010, which has built in RF.
......
But RF Glasses on the 6010..left off the other models? Seems a bit spiteful and petty to me. mad.gif
MississippiMan,
can you please elaborate on the RF glasses you are talking about?
Are you saying that the 6010 doesn't use an IR signal to control the glasses? And it actually uses a different model of glasses? What's their model number?
What about the European TW9000? Do you have any idea if it has the same option?
post #2074 of 3322
The European EH-TW9000 uses IR glasses - The same glasses as all of EPSON 3D projectors. I live in Europe and I have one smile.gif

If I am not mistaken the same stands for the US models. I think all models use IR signals for 3D. I have never heard of the 6010 using RF signals, but maybe I am mistaken......
post #2075 of 3322
I purchased a 6010 and was wondering which way is the best way to manually focus this projector...all my other projectors had motorized focus. With the 6010 I can't tell I have the best focus with the projector sitting 15ft away. I really wish the 6010 had motorized focus etc.
post #2076 of 3322
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Originally Posted by jwv651 View Post

I purchased a 6010 and was wondering which way is the best way to manually focus this projector...all my other projectors had motorized focus. With the 6010 I can't tell I have the best focus with the projector sitting 15ft away. I really wish the 6010 had motorized focus etc.

If you have a pair of binoculars laying around, they work fine.  Stand at the PJ and focus with the binocs.  I also miss my motorized focus and lens shift, but overall the 6010 has a nice image.

post #2077 of 3322
Im exactly in the same boat as you. If it weren't for the attrocious lag times of the 5010/6010, I would have bought one 3 months ago. Still waiting, or pondering the PT AE7000. I would prefer an Epson.
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Originally Posted by Jetson312 View Post

So I have been contemplating purchasing a projector for some time now. The Epson 5010 is right near the top of my list. The one issue I have with it is its lag time. I don't play video games as much as I use to but I still want a projector that is capable of playing games at a relatively fast rate.
I was wondering when Epson could likely be releasing a new line of projectors? I am hopeful that the next line of projectors will address the lag times making it more welcoming for playing video games. Will Epson likely release new home theater projectors before the end of 2012 or would I be waiting well in to 2013 before Epson releases a new line? Any insight is appreciated.
post #2078 of 3322
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Originally Posted by Jetson312 View Post

So I have been contemplating purchasing a projector for some time now. The Epson 5010 is right near the top of my list. The one issue I have with it is its lag time. I don't play video games as much as I use to but I still want a projector that is capable of playing games at a relatively fast rate.
I was wondering when Epson could likely be releasing a new line of projectors? I am hopeful that the next line of projectors will address the lag times making it more welcoming for playing video games. Will Epson likely release new home theater projectors before the end of 2012 or would I be waiting well in to 2013 before Epson releases a new line? Any insight is appreciated.

I have the Epson 8700UB. There were lots of concerns about lag time, etc. I find that in real life, with frame interpolation and all the extra processing turned off, this is not an issue.
My Xbox looks amazing on the epson and the lag, if there is any, did not affect game play at all. Since the 8700 and 5010 have basically the same 2D performance, it's probably less of a deal in real life than on paper.
post #2079 of 3322
I'm recently having trouble getting Direct TV to routinely recognize the 5010 as a 3D monitor and permit the viewing of their 3D channels or anything I've previously recorded from their 3D channels.

Is there a sequencing that needs to be followed when switching the PJ from 2D to 3D when DTV is on to get it to see and pick up their 3D channels in the grid?

In case it matters I'm running a DTV HR 22 though a Denon A-100 (4312 equivalent, and 3D capable).
post #2080 of 3322
Got a view problem with 3D discs:

Anyone using a DARBEE "Darblet" HDMI processor in line between an OPPO 93 and the EPSON 5010?

I get three second blackouts at random intervals in either 3D on or off when viewing any 3D Blu-Ray disc.

Although, no problem without the DARBEE in line, I think that the EPSON is reacting to the RGB output from the DARBEE with the
blackouts.
post #2081 of 3322
OK, after spending most or the night trying to figure out what's going on, for the benefit of others, here is my Directv 3D problem and fix.

First make sure that the DTV receiver is set to and accepts 1080p output. No 1080p no 3D or access to even seeing the 3D channels on the grid.

To confirm the DTV box is outputting 1080p go to the settings/video/resolution option screen. The screen will show you all resolutions options and allows you to select which ones you want. The DTV box checks the monitors connected to it and only shows those options compatible with the connected tv. If it recognizes a 1080P monitor, it shows 1080P as an option and you need to select it and confirm you can see the test message it puts on the screen.

In my case I had a second TV , an old plasma hooked into the dual HDMI out on my receiver. The 780p Plasma disallowed the DTV from outputting 1080p on either the plamas or Epson..

Once I disconnected the plasma , and went to the DTV video settings the 1080p option reappeared and I could select it.

Once that was done, the 3D channels reappeared on the grid and I was able to access them.
post #2082 of 3322
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Originally Posted by ANDYK48 View Post

The European EH-TW9000 uses IR glasses - The same glasses as all of EPSON 3D projectors. I live in Europe and I have one smile.gif
If I am not mistaken the same stands for the US models. I think all models use IR signals for 3D. I have never heard of the 6010 using RF signals, but maybe I am mistaken......

And I can not find anything online that mentions the 6010 coming with RF 3D glasses? Yet someone here says it does? So which is it? Time to call the Epson sales rep I guess.....
post #2083 of 3322
How good is the Epson 5010 when compared against the JVC RS10? I'm looking for something brighter in my HT. The screen I'm using is a brilliant white 1.4 gain Carada 126" diagonal screen. Just looking to see if I should give this a look. Thanks.
post #2084 of 3322
About to order the 5010. Just want to confirm that the PS3 3D display glasses are compatible with the HC5010 (I don't feel like paying Epson $100+ for glasses).

Will submit the order as soon as I get an affirmative. Thank you.
post #2085 of 3322
They work with my 3010. So, I can only assume they would work with the 5010.
post #2086 of 3322
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Originally Posted by gnolivos View Post

Im exactly in the same boat as you. If it weren't for the attrocious lag times of the 5010/6010, I would have bought one 3 months ago. Still waiting, or pondering the PT AE7000. I would prefer an Epson.

I've played PS3 games on both the Pana ae7000 and the Epson6010 and didn't experience any lag on either projecter. I'm not saying there isn't any, I just don't notice it when I'm campaign gaming, perhaps with multiplayer online gaming it might be an issue but that's something I haven't tried. If you're a casual gamer like me I doubt you will have problem with lag on the Epson 5010/6010.
post #2087 of 3322
Glasses have been sold to Troy - thank you kindly Sir!
Edited by mikethewxguy - 7/3/12 at 1:58pm
post #2088 of 3322
If anyone remembers me posting last week that I was having troubles with my connections it turns out I had a bad HDMI cable from Monoprice. I purchased two HDMI High speed 25ft cables from them. I noticed that my video signal was cutting out and the projector was showing a "no signal" or "signal not supported" message. I switched the cables back and forth between the two HDMI cords and it kept happening. Switched the cables between the PS3 and DTV box and came to the conclusion that the HDMI cable was to blame.
post #2089 of 3322
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Originally Posted by mikethewxguy View Post

If anybody wants 3 pairs of the Epson 3D glasses for $210 Shipped (they are less than a week old)....shoot me a PM. I need to get the Sony PS3 ones myself because I also have a Sony TV in our living room that I would like to use them on (as well as my 5010). The Epson one's don't work with my Sony TV.

PM Sent.


EDIT: Thanks for the glasses, Mike!...
Edited by FreyTheater - 7/4/12 at 5:59am
post #2090 of 3322
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Originally Posted by GalvatronType_R View Post

About to order the 5010. Just want to confirm that the PS3 3D display glasses are compatible with the HC5010 (I don't feel like paying Epson $100+ for glasses).
Will submit the order as soon as I get an affirmative. Thank you.

Yes. They work fine with the 5010. Got mine from Best Buy a few months ago on sale for $39 each. Grabbed 6 pair for the guests.

Not as comfortable and light as the main seatings' Panasonics I use, slightly dimmer, but the more fullly enveloping top design actually increases focus. Only bad design feature is the battery switch buried in the glasses' arms. Tough to slide on/off without nails.
post #2091 of 3322
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Originally Posted by sbm911 View Post

Yes. They work fine with the 5010. Got mine from Best Buy a few months ago on sale for $39 each. Grabbed 6 pair for the guests.
Not as comfortable and light as the main seatings' Panasonics I use, slightly dimmer, but the more fullly enveloping top design actually increases focus. Only bad design feature is the battery switch buried in the glasses' arms. Tough to slide on/off without nails.

I agree the PS3 glasses work for me also - but I found them to be SMALL. Call me a FAT HEAD [GIIN].

I like the bigger size glasses, just more comfortable.
post #2092 of 3322
Here's a question:

Right now I have the 8500Ub and the 8350. I will be getting the 6010 here shortly (the 8500Ub bulb is dying) but I want to know if the 8350 and the 6010 use the same remote frequency?

Right now I can't have the power on my 8500ub and 8350 at the same time 'cause the power turns on and off at the same time. I'm hoping someone knows about the remote freq band and verify if the 8350 and the 6010 use the same? I hope they don't!
post #2093 of 3322
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Originally Posted by DavidK442 View Post

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but from that 9' 11" wall to wall dimension you need to subtract the length of the projector (about 16") to get the throw distance as measured from the lens. Plugging 8' 7" into the calculator only gives a maximum diagonal screen size of 88 inches.
I know, sucks doesn't it. You can bounce the image off a mirror to gain extra throw. I mocked it up in my own room and it wasn't as complicated as it may seem. If you are interested PM me and I will pass on what little I know.
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Originally Posted by FreyTheater View Post

His post did sound like he was not taking the projector itself into account; I was assuming he was giving the distance from where the lens would be posotioned - but, maybe not... confused.gif
Plus, from hanging the screen, there may be a few more inches to subtract if the screen is not flush to the wall. A motorized screen with a housing at the top would put the screen surface an inch or two away from the wall itself...

You guys are correct. I did not take into the account the length of the Projector; nor the fact that there wll be cables plugged into the back of the projector; nor the screen's actual distance from the wall behind it.

All in all, I'm not sure i'll be able to manage more then 80" of a screen, which unfortunately does put it in a TV size range. The upside still remains though ... this may not be the final resting place of my projector --- a TV will remain it's size forever; with the Projector, I can get a bigger size if I move it to a different location; maybe even build a dedicated theater room in future.

I'm not sure; I'm still struggling with the idea of an 80" screen.

Let me ask you guys something different ... in terms of the 3D glasses; I have a 3D Plasma and we sit in front of it with our glasses in front of the TV. How does that work with the Projector? The Projector (And it's transmitter) is going to be over our heads ... and the Glasses we're wearing will be facing forward towards the screen ... so how do they connect? Also ... with the 5010, is there a seperate transmitter for the 3D Glasses or is it built-in like my TV?

Thanks!
post #2094 of 3322
The transmitter is built into the front of the pj, and bounces the signal off the screen to the viewers. In the back of the pj is a place to attach a optional emitter, "this external 3D IR emitter extends the visual and audio distance for 3D images up to 32 feet (10M). The 3D IR emitter is for use when the projector is located more than 16.5 feet from the screen and 3D signal is poor. "
post #2095 of 3322
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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

The transmitter is built into the front of the pj, and bounces the signal off the screen to the viewers. In the back of the pj is a place to attach a optional emitter, "this external 3D IR emitter extends the visual and audio distance for 3D images up to 32 feet (10M). The 3D IR emitter is for use when the projector is located more than 16.5 feet from the screen and 3D signal is poor. "

Thanks for that info; that clears it up. The external 3D Emitter won't be a problem in my scenario, i'll be way closer then 16.5 feet from the screen -- but it's good to know and to keep in mind in case I move the PJ to a different location.
post #2096 of 3322
Guys,

So I just pulled the trigger on the Epson 5010.

Although I'm looing at the DIY Screen section, I'm open to any suggestions for a good, fairly inexpensive screen around 90" or so - if anyone wants to suggest anything.

Other then that the only other thing I need to look up is some good 3D Settings. If someone wants to share any good 3D Settings to use, I'd love to try them out once I have the Projector.

Thanks!!
post #2097 of 3322
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Originally Posted by mickey79 View Post

You guys are correct. I did not take into the account the length of the Projector; nor the fact that there wll be cables plugged into the back of the projector; nor the screen's actual distance from the wall behind it.
All in all, I'm not sure i'll be able to manage more then 80" of a screen, which unfortunately does put it in a TV size range.

Another possible option, if the rear wall of your room is an interior wall and there is no obstructions on the other side - you could knock a square hole through the wall between a stud space and trim it off nice, and mount the projector on the ceiling of the room behind the wall, giving you plenty of throw distance for a maximum sized screen on the opposing wall... of course, if you're renting, you may not want to do that... wink.gif

Drywall can always be easily patched and refinished, so the projector window need not be a permanent thing, if you ever decide to move and need to sell the house... or maybe it would be a nice selling point for the next owner, who knows? smile.gif
post #2098 of 3322
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Originally Posted by FreyTheater View Post

Another possible option, if the rear wall of your room is an interior wall and there is no obstructions on the other side - you could knock a square hole through the wall between a stud space and trim it off nice, and mount the projector on the ceiling of the room behind the wall, giving you plenty of throw distance for a maximum sized screen on the opposing wall... of course, if you're renting, you may not want to do that... wink.gif
Drywall can always be easily patched and refinished, so the projector window need not be a permanent thing, if you ever decide to move and need to sell the house... or maybe it would be a nice selling point for the next owner, who knows? smile.gif

Man - I Love your Theater smile.gif

What kind of a mount is that one?

Yeah, I had considered that but it won't quite work with my setup; One wall goes into a Hallway which is really stairs leading up to upstairs - can't have anything sticking out over there. The other wall (Where at this point I will be setting up the Cieling mount for the PJ) has the outside of the house behind; Hardy-Plank Siding. We're not going through the Siding. So I'm somewhat stuck with the screen size.

I'm going to end up with approx. 84" screen --- which is fine for now. At some point it's going somewhere else for a bigger screen.
post #2099 of 3322
Guys - I had a question about Projector placement. Does the Projector need to be absolutely straight IN FRONT of the Screen, or can it be at an angle -- towards the side?

What I mean is, instead of in FRONT of the screen, can the 5010 be placed like this:

250

And if yes, how much of an angle can you go to?

Thanks!!
post #2100 of 3322
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Originally Posted by mickey79 View Post

Guys - I had a question about Projector placement. Does the Projector need to be absolutely straight IN FRONT of the Screen, or can it be at an angle -- towards the side?
What I mean is, instead of in FRONT of the screen, can the 5010 be placed like this:
250
And if yes, how much of an angle can you go to?
Thanks!!

No, you cannot angle the projector. It must be parallel to the screen. But the lens shift can then move the image left right, top bottom.

It can sit as far into a corner as the maximum lens shift permits, though.
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