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post #2101 of 3328
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Originally Posted by Tinman View Post

No, you cannot angle the projector. It must be parallel to the screen. But the lens shift can then move the image left right, top bottom.
It can sit as far into a corner as the maximum lens shift permits, though.

Ok thanks! I won't take that route.
post #2102 of 3328
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Originally Posted by mickey79 View Post

Man - I Love your Theater smile.gif

What kind of a mount is that one?

Yeah, I had considered that but it won't quite work with my setup; One wall goes into a Hallway which is really stairs leading up to upstairs - can't have anything sticking out over there. The other wall (Where at this point I will be setting up the Cieling mount for the PJ) has the outside of the house behind; Hardy-Plank Siding. We're not going through the Siding. So I'm somewhat stuck with the screen size.
I'm going to end up with approx. 84" screen --- which is fine for now. At some point it's going somewhere else for a bigger screen.

Thanks for the compliment on my theater - it's no fancy setup, all DIY, and in a basement with only a 6' 6" ceiling, but I have a good bit of space to spread everything out, and I'm handy with building stuff and also electrical wiring... I really need to update my website though, the photos on the home page are current, but that is about it. I have to rework the text on the home page quite a bit and bring the other pages up to date as well...

LOL, that projector mount I am using is a home-made mount I bought of a seller on eBay back in 2006, he made them himself... I use a 1/4" thick piece of clear plexiglass bolted to the bottom plate of the mount, and then drilled for the mounting holes of each projector I've owned over the years... Like I said, DIY... wink.gif

Sorry the projector window idea won't work for you - I was hoping to get you a bigger screen size... Ah well.
post #2103 of 3328
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Originally Posted by GalvatronType_R View Post

About to order the 5010. Just want to confirm that the PS3 3D display glasses are compatible with the HC5010 (I don't feel like paying Epson $100+ for glasses).
Will submit the order as soon as I get an affirmative. Thank you.

They do work with the 5010....and they are quite a bit "smaller/tighter" than the Epson glasses. I may have to go back to getting Epson glasses for myself (big head) and use the PS3 glasses for the family. Was trying to kill 2 birds with 1 stone because I also have a Sony 3D LED in the living room and wanted universal glasses across the board.

After getting my new AVR (Onkyo 1009) and my 3D glasses (PS3) yesterday...we enjoyed 3D for the first time last night. Watched "The Darkest Hour" (TERRIBLE movie) because it was the only 3D title that my local rental place had that we had not already seen. The 3D was just "OK" on this one....going to watch "Resident Evil: Afterlife 3D" sometime later today or tonight...I have a feeling that one should be much better on the 3D front.

The Epson 5010 did a great job...no complaints whatsoever. My only gripe would be the manual focusing requirement. Just have to remember to give the PJ a quick focus before doing any serious viewing...a bit of a pain, but for the image this thing puts out I think it is worth it.
post #2104 of 3328
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Originally Posted by mikethewxguy View Post

The Epson 5010 did a great job...no complaints whatsoever. My only gripe would be the manual focusing requirement. Just have to remember to give the PJ a quick focus before doing any serious viewing...a bit of a pain, but for the image this thing puts out I think it is worth it.
The glasses are a little tight for me as well, so I wear the ear pieces angled up a little, so that their actually above my ears a bit. Curious that you've mentioned the need to focus? Not having that issue here. I've set it once and its good. Are you letting it warm up some before you set it, like for 30 mins or?
post #2105 of 3328
I'm sure this is in this thread somewhere but I can't seem to find it. Does the 6010 have wireless hdmi like the 5010e? I have seen some reviews that say it has it and some reviews that don't even mention it.
Thanks.
post #2106 of 3328
The 5010e does have builtin hdmi wireless, none on the 6010.
post #2107 of 3328
Guys -- I'm going to get my 5010 later this week; I have never setup or used a Projector before. I'd like to take a look at some existing picture settings, both for 2D & 3D. Can someone share their working Picture settings for 2D & 3D ... especially for a smal sized room? Or perhaps a link to good picture settings? I can use them as a starting point and tweak from there to get the best results suited to my room.

Thanks!!
post #2108 of 3328
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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

The glasses are a little tight for me as well, so I wear the ear pieces angled up a little, so that their actually above my ears a bit. Curious that you've mentioned the need to focus? Not having that issue here. I've set it once and its good. Are you letting it warm up some before you set it, like for 30 mins or?

Regarding the need to focus...I'm pretty sure this is all my doing....my kid jumps around all over the house during the day (home with mommy) and the projector is on the lower level of the house. If I'm home and she is playing (aka: jumping) and I'm watching a movie the vibrations are unbearable smile.gif

I also manually turn off/on the power switch on the back of the projector each time I use it (just a habit) so I'm sure I knock it out all outta whack as well. I guess I just miss the electronic focus that I had on my old Panny AE4000U...
post #2109 of 3328
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Originally Posted by MississippiMan View Post

Yeah...the 6010, which has built in RF.
A primary reason I would always suggest it over a 5010, both because I'm a Epson Pro Dealer as well as the recent price collapse makes the difference between the two a non-issue.
All in all, the forward mounted 3D-IR assembly was something i immediately took issue with last year at CEDIA & InfoComm. Made no sense whatsoever to me, and I let 'em know it in no uncertain terms. It amounted to being a simple cash grab by reducing costs on the 30/50 series. In fact, it creates far more issues that are for some unresolvable to be worth what little difference in Mfg price Epson saved.
Such are the decisions made by those "Higher Ups" trying to keep the Epson Pro Line-up distinctive.
Extended Warranty? A worthy thing.
Extra Bulb? More icing on the Pro-cake
A most excellent Chief RPA168 Dedicated Ceiling Mount assembly? Almost worth the price of admission alone.
Advanced Calibration Tools? Iffin you use 'em, they make a difference. If not.....
rolleyes.gif
But RF Glasses on the 6010..left off the other models? Seems a bit spiteful and petty to me. mad.gif
.............and what about the Wireless RF HDMI module needing to be mounted in the front of the room? mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif
Oh Boy. I got me started. redface.gif
Can you elaborate on the RF 3D glasses on the Epson 6010.
Aren't the Epson 3D glasses that come with the 6010 the same ones(IR 3D) you can purchase for the 3010/5010?
post #2110 of 3328
Hey guys, thinking of getting this projector. Due to possibly not finding a proper HDMI in length and support, i was looking at possibly getting the wireless HDMI version (5010e). How does the wireless work and is it good? Is there any loss or degration of picture quality in 1080p, or 3D or anything like that at all?
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Auto Iris Question

I just sold my house and in order to make the deal, I had to give up some theater equipment, which included my projector. I was using an Acer h7531d 1080P DLP projector. I thought it had a great picture, but I was unhappy with the black levels and especially unhappy with the auto iris. It was noisey and too slow. I haven't seen anyone comment on the auto iris of the 5010. I wish the specs would give contrast ratio with and without auto iris. Any thoughts?
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by JeffreyJonesBSME View Post

Auto Iris Question
I just sold my house and in order to make the deal, I had to give up some theater equipment, which included my projector. I was using an Acer h7531d 1080P DLP projector. I thought it had a great picture, but I was unhappy with the black levels and especially unhappy with the auto iris. It was noisey and too slow. I haven't seen anyone comment on the auto iris of the 5010. I wish the specs would give contrast ratio with and without auto iris. Any thoughts?
FW v104 make she auto iris a little more quiet. I actually don't even notice it.

As for contrast ratio, see the first post of this thread.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/official-epson-powerlite-home-cinema-5010-6010-thread/180#post_21362626
post #2113 of 3328
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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post

FW v104 make she auto iris a little more quiet. I actually don't even notice it.
As for contrast ratio, see the first post of this thread.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/official-epson-powerlite-home-cinema-5010-6010-thread/180#post_21362626

Yes, I definitely noticed an improvement of the auto iris after the Firmware update from 100 to 104, it is quite a bit quieter. I have my Iris set on Fast now, and it seems to work pretty good at that setting - I don't even notice the iris working during a movie and can only hear it if I am standing right next to the projector...
post #2114 of 3328
Thanks for the info. I'll make time to read every thread after I move and get unpacked. I'm looking forward to a larger home theater. It will seat 8 when my last only sat 4. I've always had DLP projectors and was never sensitive to RBE, but it seems LCD projectors have better ratings with contrast. I'd also like to have a 150" screen versus the 115 inch I've had for 6 years now. I know this is pushing the limit. Perhaps someone here has used the 5010 on a screen that large. Also, I've never had 3D either. It's not big on my list, but 150 inch 3D screen will be very cool.
post #2115 of 3328
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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post

FW v104 make she auto iris a little more quiet. I actually don't even notice it.
As for contrast ratio, see the first post of this thread.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/official-epson-powerlite-home-cinema-5010-6010-thread/180#post_21362626

I envy you 5010 owners as you seem to get FW updates when there are none for 3010 ! Why is that ?
post #2116 of 3328
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Originally Posted by falafala View Post


I envy you 5010 owners as you seem to get FW updates when there are none for 3010 ! Why is that ?

Perhaps the 3010 is not broken and thus does not need an FW Updates wink.gif

post #2117 of 3328
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Originally Posted by toofast68 View Post

Perhaps the 3010 is not broken and thus does not need an FW Updates wink.gif

If a FW update can fix Iris noise, Epson could have avoided so many returns smile.gif
post #2118 of 3328
Dear all.

I was looking at six TW9000 and TW9000W here in Slovenia, and all of them have a single green row of pixels on the right or left side of picture – last vertical row (border). Is this normal or it is a bad batch of projectors ?
If you are so kind and give me a reply.

Best regards,

Tom
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Originally Posted by wickedg8gt

I put up my 2nd(new) 5010 tonight after sending the 1st(bad) unit back today. The results are as follows: the black and color levels are a whole lot better. I dont really see the top and bottom black bars anymore. The picture is also alot brighter. So not being an expert but Ive come to the conclusion that the red lights of doom I saw flashing were probably telling me the iris was bad just because the colors and blacks are so much better. In conclusion 2d is badass now and now I see a difference between that and the 8350.

But the bad part is it still flickers in and out. The first 3d movie I put in it flickered and then I had to reset it twice and then it played a whole 3d movie. I then tried a couple 2d blu rays to test out the colors and stuff; but when I put in another 3d blu ray it flickered again. I had to reset it a couple more times for it to play a 3d blu ray. So im thinking the 5010s hates the slim ps3's. If it keeps doing it then Im gona have to use a fat ps3 or buy a dedicated 3d blu ray player. But I think ive started to notice that once you reset it; as long as you dont go back to display and set it again it seems to work. I would reset and it would say 1080p and thats it. I would go back and do it again to make sure 1080p 3d was checked and this time when I didnt recheck the system it seems to play



Not sure if you have solved your problem yet.
I have a similar problem with my 6010 and my HTPC.
I have also gone through the HDMI testing routine and have eliminated that as a possibility.

I have even updated my video card from HD6750 to HD7770 and upgraded the PC's power supply to see if that might help.

Also tried all the PJ menu settings I could think changing.

I am able to obtain totally stable display when I select 1920x1080x30Hz interlaced or 24Hz progressive scan.
I get some flickering when I selecy 50Hz progressive and a lot of flickering when using 60Hz progressive.

When using 60Hz progressive, I will even see a PJ message saying "Not Supported 67.49 kHz, 59.99Hz".

I am starting to believe that this is a problem with HDCP at higher frame rates.

Interestingly, 1920x1080x60 works fine through the SVGA input. So that's why I think its an HDCP issue.

Will be contacting Epson to see if they have some idea besides bad cables.

Hope this mau have helped you if you haven't already fixed your issue.
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mjugen View Post

Dear all.
I was looking at six TW9000 and TW9000W here in Slovenia, and all of them have a single green row of pixels on the right or left side of picture – last vertical row (border). Is this normal or it is a bad batch of projectors ?
If you are so kind and give me a reply.
Best regards,
Tom
I seesm the green panel is off by a pixel or more and unfortunately, there is no green pixel alignment but aligning the blue and red pixel may help mask it.
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No issues here with my slim PS3, actually have 2 of them and they both work perfectly fine with my 5010....sorry to hear you are having issues...seems to me it would be cables...but if you have already went that route, no idea.....
post #2122 of 3328
Thanks, I tried lcd alignment, but to no avail, since it seems that panels are not overlapping, and the result is this 1 pixel green border line, since it is not possible to over align / move blue or red into this green line to be white. Shame, and almost impossible to believe that six models have same issue, but they have, tried different cables and sources, and on TW6000 (US model is 3010) this issue is not present. Do yours display similar error, or is this only the very poor batch ?

I am afraid to go with TW9000 because of this frown.gif , I never panicked about convergence, but this is a real bummer.

TNX,

Tom
post #2123 of 3328
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Originally Posted by mikethewxguy View Post

They do work with the 5010....and they are quite a bit "smaller/tighter" than the Epson glasses. I may have to go back to getting Epson glasses for myself (big head) and use the PS3 glasses for the family. Was trying to kill 2 birds with 1 stone because I also have a Sony 3D LED in the living room and wanted universal glasses across the board.

Uh oh, Mike - you got rid of your Epson glasses in error?? You're gonna make me feel guilty now, taking them from you... Well, not really... wink.gifbiggrin.gif
post #2124 of 3328
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Originally Posted by mjugen View Post

Thanks, I tried lcd alignment, but to no avail, since it seems that panels are not overlapping, and the result is this 1 pixel green border line, since it is not possible to over align / move blue or red into this green line to be white. Shame, and almost impossible to believe that six models have same issue, but they have, tried different cables and sources, and on TW6000 (US model is 3010) this issue is not present. Do yours display similar error, or is this only the very poor batch ?
I am afraid to go with TW9000 because of this frown.gif , I never panicked about convergence, but this is a real bummer.
TNX,
Tom

When you are performing a convergeance alignment on the projector, does the green seem to be off the whole way across the screen, or just that very left edge of the projection? The green panel is the fixed "reference" panel, and the red and blue panels are the ones that are being aligned to the green panel... you should be able to move the red and blue pixel columns inside the projection area to both the right and left of the green pixel columns... Also, there usually is some slight "halo" effect seen on the screen around the pixels of each color on LCD projectors, is that what you are seeing along the left edge, perhaps?

OTOH, the pixels on the green panel may be exhibiting some of that "smearing" we saw in one of the other member's earlier photos of the blue pixels on his projector; in that case , there could definitely be a manufactuing issue with a batch of the green panels (or the optics directing the image from the green panel) in the projectors you are looking at...
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by FreyTheater View Post

OTOH, the pixels on the green panel may be exhibiting some of that "smearing" we saw in one of the other member's earlier photos of the blue pixels on his projector; in that case , there could definitely be a manufactuing issue with a batch of the green panels (or the optics directing the image from the green panel) in the projectors you are looking at...
IIRC, the smearing/blurring of pixels was worse when the projector was ceiling mounted.
post #2126 of 3328
Guys,

My 5010 arrives today; I'll start the unboxing and setting up today -- but I'm still looking for some starter settings. Any advice for regular 2D and 3D settings? Thanks.
post #2127 of 3328
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Originally Posted by mickey79 View Post

Guys,
My 5010 arrives today; I'll start the unboxing and setting up today -- but I'm still looking for some starter settings. Any advice for regular 2D and 3D settings? Thanks.

NONE NEEDED smile.gif
post #2128 of 3328
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mickey79 View Post

Guys,
My 5010 arrives today; I'll start the unboxing and setting up today -- but I'm still looking for some starter settings. Any advice for regular 2D and 3D settings? Thanks.
I would start with using Natural mode, Iris set to Fast & set the lamp to ECO then if needed, do some tweaking.
For 3D, use defaults for now.
post #2129 of 3328
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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post

I would start with using Natural mode, Iris set to Fast & set the lamp to ECO then if needed, do some tweaking.
For 3D, use defaults for now.

Thanks man - that's what I'll do; I'll write back in here if tweaking is needed.
post #2130 of 3328
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Originally Posted by mickey79 View Post

Guys,
My 5010 arrives today; I'll start the unboxing and setting up today -- but I'm still looking for some starter settings. Any advice for regular 2D and 3D settings? Thanks.

The 5010 color settings are "fairly close" to ideal right out of the box - I think I had to adjust the contrast just a click or two, and I played with the default gamma just a smidge, but didn't hardly need to. I just reset the convergeance after performing the 104 firmware upgrade, and it looks pretty dang good. I'm also running the same settings as Plasma recommended - Natural, ECO, and Fast Iris...

You can get real technical and really fine-tune the colors, but to tell you the truth, I'm old enough now that my eyes would hardly see any difference,I'm afraid... lol... wink.gif
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