Official Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 5010 / 6010 thread - Page 78

I know you called in to get yours replaced but here is the picture of mine... Epson 6010.

Thanks for sharing the pic. Yours looks sharp like the original unit I had (the one with burnt pixels).

It looks like you have a unit which is projecting a nice clean image. Thanks again for taking the pic.

Ian

I have been waiting to put some hours on my 6010 before tweeting, haven't had a lot of time, been very busy traveling. The one thing I noticed with the 6010 the picture looks blurry in all picture modes THX/Natural/Dynamic etc., I keep trying to focus it, but it makes no difference. I watch the Lorax last night and it to was somewhat blurry. Not a lot of detail. I'm coming from a Mitisubisi HC6500 which was as sharp as a tack. Is it normal for the 6010 to be last than sharp. Is there a way to improve the sharpness. Like I said I haven't had a lot of time with this projector. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

I have been on this forum since day-one.

I would say the number is less than a DOZEN people on the Forum have
had an early lamp problem. My lamp failed at less than 1000 hours and
Epson sent me a FREE LAMP via next day air.

I meant the power button on the side--- the projector basically ends up going into standby mode except for the flashing red lamp light.
All i can do for now is wait for the replacement bulb
I guess I am one of the unlucky ones who got an early lamp failure (at less than a 1,000 hrs). I'll post an update once I receive and install the replacement bulb---crossing my fingers my projector will be resurrected from the dead!

New owner of a australian TW9000W

From what I have been able to determine the Euro TW9000W model is closely related to the US Powerlite 6010 in features (THX, ISF, Anamorphic profiles etc)
It also includes the two (2) pairs of 3D glasses in the box.

My comment is what Isn't provided in the TW9000W box compared to the Powerlite 6010 despite being listed for the same price (US$3999 or AUS$3999).

After many searches for these parts it was brought to my attention that the Powerlite 6010 projector actually includes not only the 3D glasses, but also a spare lamp, ceiling mount and the elusive cable cover.
Parts that in australia at least will put you back another $500+

It took me quite a while to source the epson low-profile ceiling mount in stock and I have been seriously struggling in trying to find the epson cable cover which is mentioned in the included owners manual but missing completely from the available accessories on the epson australia site and any other site for that matter. So far, internet searches and calls to local supplies have found certain asian countries (japan) stocking these items but not available to ship international.

Has anyone ever noticed this before and does anyone have an idea as to why these projector packages differ so much considering on the surface they are the same projectors?


***I did a search but haven't been able to find anyone else who has raised this, so my apologies for any repeat.***

I agree with this, it really cleaned up the picture on my 6010.

There is clearly some fan or sensor issue with this projector. Both mine and it's replacement have some start up issues. Are you sure it is the lamp light and not the temp light? Not saying that isn't it, but I would call support in any case.

Got some questions on Epson 5010 projector that i recently bought. I am waiting for my drywall work in HT room to get completed before mounting the projector in the ceiling. My setup is going to be - 100 inch screen with projector located around 13 to 14 feet from the screen. It is a 23by16 Sq.ft room.

I am in the process of keeping the projector (manually in the screen with my hand as much as i can do it) at various throw distance (13 to 15 feet mostly i will end up) and fit into 100 inch white cloth screen that i temporarily installed in the un-finished wall. Problem i am running to - i keep the projector with throw distance of 13 ft and trying to fit the image in to 100 inch screen exactly. I used veritical shft and horizantal shift etc to center the image as much as possible in to the screen. When i use Zoom function to ensure the image fits into the screen completely on all 4 sides, i am able to fit the image only on 2 sides most of the times. When i fit in the horizantal direction (by zooming properly) the image goes beyond the screen on the veritical side. What options i have here to ensure the image fits in to the screen properly within the all the 4 sides of the screen. Are there any other control that i should be doing it in menu option? Does Keystore setting help here? I would like to avoid keystone since it degrades quality.
As much as i know, i thought keystone is used to correct image shape (not exactly rectangular etc) or do i have to increase or decrease my throw distance? Looking for options here.

Your screen isn't exactly 16x9 apparently. Keystone shouldn't be necessary. That is if the image is wider at the top than bottom. If both sides are wider than the screen but the top and bottom fit there is no adjustment to help. I would get the sides to fit since they get used. You will have black bars top and bottom on pretty much any movie.

Holding the projector in your hand isn't going to give you a level, stable image. The pj should be leveled first, and projecting a squared image onto the wall. The use the lens shift knobs to bring the image down onto the screen. Maybe a step ladder with some support(s) for the pj, while your doing adjustments, would work?

Yes, it is the lamp light (not the temp light) that flashes red. According to the manual's troubleshooting guide, all signs point to a problem with the lamp and in my case it's looking more like a failed lamp. The only way to be sure is to install the replacement lamp and see if it lights up.
Are you referring to your projector itself or the projector's lamp that has the start up issues? What exactly are your start up issues (bulb not turning on, projector not powering up)? What did Epson tech support discuss with you regarding your problem (I'm assuming you did call Epson on this)?

My first one would sometimes have the fan crank up to full for 1-7 minutes before starting or once in a while shutdown with the temp light on. After unplugging and restarting it might work fine. My replacement has had the fan crank up a few times, but just for a few seconds, but a few times after running for a couple minutes it would shut off with a temp light. I didn't have to unplug it, just turn it back on, after the lengthy shutdown period, and it works fine the rest of the night.

Folks,
So does lens shift on the 5010 impact image quality. I saw some recent posts regarding blooming concerns
I will be employing a fair amount of vertical lens shift. Want to make sure this is not a concern with the 5010

Hey kaotikr1, are u using any lens shift on yours?

Have a question with Epson 5010 (recently bought a week ago) related to changing Aspect ratio. I read from the manual with HDMi connection, the aspect ratio cannot be changed manually and PJ selects it automatically. With my limited testing so far, i see it was set to "Normal" mode. Here is my Q - Say i have a 16:9 ratio 100 inch screen/ Playing one of the latest Hollywood movie from my Blueray player (regular DVD or Bluray DVD) what should i be expecting here? Will i see a full image in my 100 inch screen or not? I see similar posts in this thread where people asking the same Q.(http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/official-epson-powerlite-home-cinema-5010-6010-thread/1020#post_21655309) It sounds silly to me aspect ratio cannot be changed when connected to HDMI. Same question i have for other sources like PC or cable receiver etc. Note i am not going to use 2:35.1 and i just need to understand with 16:9 screen whether i can view full screen possibly all sources (Bluray/PC/Cable etc).. With a normal HDTV i do not see this issue at all and i am surprised to see this with EPson. The final Q i have whether anyone knows Panasonic AE7000 has the same limitation with 16:9 screen..

The 5010 does not have a powered zoom lens like the Panasonic. The Panasonic changes zoom to expand the native 16:9 image to 2.4:1, which then throws (and wastes) the top and bottom bars off the edge of the screen. You essentially are not watching full resolution though. You have just thrown away 30% of the resolution and light output. This is why all HDTVs show black bars with 2.4:1 content. They too are also 16:9 ratios.

Not all movies are scope ratio, but for ones that are, you would see black bars top and bottom. You could adjust the zoom manually to fill a 2.4:1 screen.

The 6010 has an anamorphic mode, but you need to use an anamorphic lens. This optically stretches the image to 2.4:1 while preserving all of the light output and resolution off of the 16:9 chip. The lens costs more than the 5010. But check videogon.com's projector section for some deals.

You want to stretch the 2.35 image to fit? That seems really silly to me. I hope it doesn't let you distort the picture like that. a 2.35 image will have black bars. That is just how it is.

Just want to state i am not going for 2.4:1 screen. I am planning to have 16:9 screen. With that said, will i see any difference between Pan 7000 and Epson 5010 PJ ignoring the fact Panasonic PJ allows motorized zoom feature.

Hi all,

Sorry to be so lazy, but there are just a lot of entries here. I want to go to a projector, and the Epson 6010 seems to be getting good commentary for 2d with decent blacks and decent 3d. I would appreciate it if some one could link me to a, or some of the better reveiws in this thread.

Thanks, steve

The two sites I start at when researching are
www.projectorreviews.com
www.projectorcentral.com
This is an excellent projector for the price. Both 2D and 3D are more than decent. 3D is simply amazing. I know you won't be disappointed.

Thanks again Kaotikr1. I really appreciate you taking the time to post your pic of your projected image of white text on black. My replacement 5010 arrived yesterday, and it looks awesome (very much like what you show in your pic! The issue with the blooming whites is not a problem with this unit.

The one added bonus with the replacement is that firmware version 106 is installed, which I understand is one of the latest versions. Is there a change log that shows what new versions improve / change? Does anyone know where to go to find on-line the latest f/w versions - or do you need to request this from Epson?

I give Epson A+++ for their top-tier customer care / service. It's seems they really take pride in client care . . . and it shows!

Ian

If your using a 16:9 screen, then both the ae7000 and 5010 are the same in regards to showing the image on your screen.
With a widescreen movie(16:9 ratio) you will fill up your screen fully.
With a movie thats 2.35:1 or 2.40:1(scope) you will have black bars top and bottom on both projectors. IF you had a scope screen you could manually zoom(5010) or powered zoom(pana) to get rid of those black bars, but since your not going scope then all that doesnt matter.

Basically if you go 16:9 screen, it will be exactly same as if your watching your widescreen TV that you mentioned earlier no matter what projector as projectors are native 16:9 as well.

With PJ being 16:9 and screen being 16:9 i understand all projectors will produce balck bars when displaying scope type images (2.35.1). My Q here - Why Epson is not giving an option to change it manually and they are locking it down. This is the part i do not like it with Epson. Looks like all Epson PJs have this feature. (Ignore tha fact i may lose resolution / part of the image etc. Assume i am willing to take a hit on those). For example review the user manual from Pan 7000 PJ from below URL

https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/projector/extranet/main/products/ae7000at5000/manual/ae7000ENGLISH_U.pdf

Review page # 58 and 59 in the above PDF file. You will know what i am talking about. Even with HDMI, i get an option to change my aspect ratio..

I wonder how it would work with a 5010e, where I'm using wireless HDMI. Anyone try that?

Well Gosh....I suppose that means it's a Panny in your Future?

Or is the price of the Panny 7000 too steep, owning to the fact that it has more features? No...they are priced too close for that to be an issue. Now the Epson is a better choice if brightness is paramount...that's a given. But some feel the Panny's 3D is superior.

However, for those who want easy change-ability from 16:9 to 2:35:1 formating on a dedicated 2.35 Screen, then judicious shopping would always point one to the Panny 4000/7000 units.

It's like this....on virtually every PJ know to exist, over HDMI, 1080p content, especially Blu-Ray, is formatted by the Studio, and that's what they intend you to view it at. The ability to change Aspect Ratio is limited to Non-1080p content on the Panny. But you'd have to actually own one and see that be the case in person to know that...the PDF doesn't allude to that limitation. Besides, unless your Screen is a 2.35:1 screen, why would any of that matter? Is it simply because you hate seeing the unused portion of a 16:9 screen when viewing 2.35:1 content? (...that's been a universal lament for years on all such displays...) Gee wiz, do ya think that's why people instead like the Panny....because they can work around that limitation by using a wider screen, shooting 16:9 content "Centered", then "Auto" zooming out to fill the larger area when desired, letting the unused portion of the image field overspill?

Look all you want, there is no Projector that currently changes 16:9 content to 2.35 / 2.40:1 "completely". In the least, a special "additional" Lens system is required to correct the "Stretch" that is imparted if the PJ in use has that sort of feature.

Without one employing the "Anamorphic" feature, The Panny simply makes it easier for you to adjust the Zoom / Shift values to fill up a Scope Screen. But even then, the Projector must be initially positioned within a certain parameter for that "Auto" adjustment to work. And if that "A" feature is employed...guess what? You cannot change the aspect ratio and still have the "Stretch" feature work. Who'd a thunk it?

Not trying to be snippy here, but why the grousing about a certain PJ not allowing you to do what another does because of it's own design? Sour grapes? I can understand that...we all wish whatever choice we wind up would be all things to every need / desire. But sometimes you simply have to find out these things in "after purchase" mode unless you do sufficient checking beforehand. And that isn't always do-able because too often a owner doesn't even know what they want...or how they want to use a product until they actually start discovering what it can....and cannot do.

The Epsons' simply have too much going for them to rail about the things Epson decided not to include...IMO of course.

So...why not go for a larger 2.35:1 format screen? You can DIY and come out ahead. Many who espouse the same desire as you primarily set up the 5010 in Zoomed mode, and only bother to get on a stool (...or ladder...) to change it to accommodate 16:9 if necessary. Now of course, if your watching a lot of HDTV content as well as Blu-Ray...then all that "Up-Down" can be a PITA, and lead to those "Sour Grapes" mentioned earlier. But if you remain with a smaller sized 16:9 screen, there's not much chance your ever gonna realize much satisfaction.