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about 133'' dia max
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Originally Posted by ByteTV01 View Post

Hi All,
I'm considering making one of my rooms into a home theatre and using the 6010 in it.
A couple questions:
1. The room is fairly small @ 14x14x9 so my throw distance would be about 13.5. What would be the maximum screen size diag that I could get with a throw distance that close? I tried using the calculator but that says about 87' which seems pretty small so not sure if I'm using it right.
2. Any word from Epson when they are release their new line of home projectors?
Thanks,
You most likely will be projecting from 12.5" considering that the projector is about a foot long and you want a little space behind it.
You are looking at about 128" dia. max but you may want to go a little smaller by a few inches.
http://www.eliteprojectorcalculator.com/
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Great thanks!. It's amazing it can produce such a large image from only 12.5 away.
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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post

No.
I use Natural as well on a ~1.3 gain white screen.
Super white is off.
Brightness & Contrast are maybe 1-2 notches from 0.
Are you running ECO mode?

Yes, ECO mode..

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Originally Posted by MississippiMan View Post

That's the way all BD screens roll. The reflective elements within are what makes the whites look brighter, therein giving the appearance that Contrast is boosted. That in turn is also assisted by the very dark substrate helping to absorb light and keep Blacks as dark as possible.
The crushing of subtle detail is an unfortunate offshoot. Sadly...there's really no cure that isn't something that creates another issue. If you use a ND filter to put the reins on the reflectivity, then the dark substrate will catch up and overpower all the mid-level colors and you'll have a dim screen experience. Try adjusting your gamma settings. That's the least obtrusive thing you can do.

I had the same birghtness issue when I had the epson 8700ub and dalite HP. I can definitely believe and see the BD bright reflective properties, but there isn't a way to reduce the crushing whites? I turned on the Super White as recommended and it made a small difference I think but need more time with the projector. Right now I have gamma at 1.4 per the projectorreview settings. I'll try a lower gamma?
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I have the epson 5010 being mounted this morning, what is the long throw distance? Can I put it 24ft away?

Stephan
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Originally Posted by HiJacker View Post

Hello!
I installed the new 6010 and met the following problem.
Sometimes it happens the the picture goes blank while the movie is still going on.
It is not the movie problem (it happens with different formats - avi, blue ray and so on), not the network problem - (i tried 2 different NAS servers and 2 access points) and not the HDMI problem (i tried 3 different ones), So it have to be PJ problems - settings or anything else.
Any assistance would be much appreciated.

anybody please! ))
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I'm guessing nobody here has any suggestions.

I will say that with mine, I experience it go blank in this case: when I change sources. All my sources flow through my Onkyo, but when I change sources, it is changing on the Onkyo. As an example, if I am watching my HTPC, I have it play through the Game HDMI port; when I watch Dish, I have it play through the DVR port. When I change, there is a pause in broadcast by the Onkyo, and the screen goes blank for maybe 15 seconds.

Does not sound like this is the case for you, but something for you to know.

I would suggest finding the number for Epson support online, and give them a call. I have read that they provide excellent support.

Good luck. Once you resolve it, please let us know the resolution.
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thanks!
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by schenette View Post

I have the epson 5010 being mounted this morning, what is the long throw distance? Can I put it 24ft away?
Stephan

Select your projector, select a screen size and view the Current Throw values.
http://www.eliteprojectorcalculator.com/
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Originally Posted by HiJacker View Post

Hello!
I installed the new 6010 and met the following problem.
Sometimes it happens the the picture goes blank, not the network problem - (i tried 2 different NAS servers and 2 access points) and not the HDMI problem (i tried 3 different ones)

Sounds like a hdmi cable issue to me. You mentioned you tried 3 different ones? Did you try 3 different ports, or 3 different cables? How long is the cable run, and are your cables rated for that length/content?
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Originally Posted by schenette View Post

I have the epson 5010 being mounted this morning, what is the long throw distance? Can I put it 24ft away?
Stephan

Well, yes, you can mount it at 24', but the smallest 16:9 image size it will give at that distance is 115" diagonal... plus the fact you will decreasing the brightness of the image by quite a good bit with the projector that far away from the screen. What screen size do you actually want to use?
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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

Sounds like a hdmi cable issue to me. You mentioned you tried 3 different ones? Did you try 3 different ports, or 3 different cables? How long is the cable run, and are your cables rated for that length/content?
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i've tried 3 different cables to each of PJ ports. Dune Player has only one HDMI port.

the cable from PJ to player is about 3 meters.
I don't quite get about "is the cable rated"? is there anything the HDMI cable couldn't be rated for?
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Sadly these projectors are made in China. It is probably a manufacturing defect. I am going to call have have my replacement projector replaced. frown.gif
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Originally Posted by HiJacker View Post

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i've tried 3 different cables to each of PJ ports. Dune Player has only one HDMI port.
the cable from PJ to player is about 3 meters.
I don't quite get about "is the cable rated"? is there anything the HDMI cable couldn't be rated for?

I'm having the same issue with my 5010. The picture will cut out for 1-2 seconds. Could be once or twice a minute or once or twice an hour. Only happens when using the cable company DVR. I've tried multiple HDMI cables, resolutions, and AVRs. Other sources like my AppleTV and BD player are fine.

I'll probably give Epson a ring too.
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Originally Posted by jayselle View Post

I'm having the same issue with my 5010. The picture will cut out for 1-2 seconds. Could be once or twice a minute or once or twice an hour. Only happens when using the cable company DVR. I've tried multiple HDMI cables, resolutions, and AVRs. Other sources like my AppleTV and BD player are fine.
I'll probably give Epson a ring too.

Might want to check the cable company boards, and their support too. Might be the HDMI port of the DVR. A lot of hardware seems to be deficient on their HDMI ports.
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Originally Posted by HiJacker View Post

Hello!
I installed the new 6010 and met the following problem.
Sometimes it happens the the picture goes blank while the movie is still going on.
It is not the movie problem (it happens with different formats - avi, blue ray and so on), not the network problem - (i tried 2 different NAS servers and 2 access points) and not the HDMI problem (i tried 3 different ones), So it have to be PJ problems - settings or anything else.
Any assistance would be much appreciated.


Are you running the hdmi through a receiver or video processor ? If you are try switching to pass through.
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Originally Posted by HiJacker View Post

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the cable from PJ to player is about 3 meters.
I don't quite get about "is the cable rated"? is there anything the HDMI cable couldn't be rated for?

3 meters isn't to far, I think anything over 4 meters may need a cable that is thicker, eg. 22 awg. Hdmi cables are rated by bandwidth, so if your using older cables, they may not work as well for 1080p/3D content. Here is an article with some explanations. http://www.audioholics.com/education/cables/hdmi-cable-speed

"A cable which has passed Category 2 certification is capable of handling any data rate allowed under the HDMI specification; a cable which has passed Category 1, but not Category 2, is certified capable of handling anything up to 742.5 Mbps/channel, representing conventional 720p or 1080i HD resolutions at their normal framerates and eight-bit color depth."

Now all this is not to say, an older non-rated cable won't work, but it is a link in the chain you need to consider that may be causing the issue.
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To the guys with picture dropping out.

I have a 6010.
Using an old topfiel PVR(about 3 to 4 years old), if i connect it to my receiver with HDMI i will get picture for about half to one second then a blank screen for anywhere between 5 to 10seconds, then a picture again for half to one second then drop out etc....
Connect the same PVR but this time with component cables through receiver(but still HDMI out from receiver to projector) and no issues at all, works great.

Connect a new PVR i bought about a month ago with HDMI to receiver and it works with no drop outs or any issues at all...

So, i would say its the communication between maybe old type HMDI vs new type projector? or just a incompatibility of the old PVR, so i dont think its necessarily the projector that you guys are having issues.
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BTW, i haven't noticed this with my xbox which is connected to another HDMI port as well.
X-Box is younger than a BD Prime so that might be the HDMI port unfortunately.
Besides, i've tried to change the frequency and frame rate in the player settings from AUTO to 24 frame 60 HZ - and now i see the drop out rarely.

i think i try a THICK cable once (it is somewhere in the flat so i have to find it) and then i will borrow a "fresh" one HDMI player and make a new test and the report it here.

many thanks to all who advised smth.
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Finally got around to purchasing Epson's 3D Glasses. All excited to watch 3D with the 5010.

Started by watching a 3D movie on Comcast On Demand. Had to change the 3D Format setting to "Top and Bottom" to get the 3D to work (Auto setting didn't work). Worked just fine.

Then decided to watch Hugo in 3D. Put the 3D disc in my Sony BDP-S590 3D player and never made it past the 1st screenshot of "The Blu-Ray 3D Disc requires a compatible 3DHDTV and Blu-Ray 3D player". Spent a few hours checking my settings and trying to figure out how to get the disc past the first screenshot. (Same issue as meiya - post 2355).
Epson 5010 settings of 3D Display is "On" and Format set to "Auto".
Blu Ray player settings of "Auto" for 3D Output setting and "106 inch" TV Screen size setting for 3D.

My HDMI cables - blu-ray player connection to Denon 4311 and Denon 4311 connection to projector are all latest version, high speed HDMI cables.

Starting thinking about settings in my Denon, however, other than confirming the receiver supports 3D playback, no other reference in the manual to 3D settings. Also thought that maybe the internal emitter wasn't working. Not sure.

Completely frustrated at this time and blame either the Sony Blu-Ray player or the disc itself, since my Comcast box worked for 3D. The disc was expensive and I feel like I wasted my money.

Probably will pick up another 3D disc, however, hate to invest more money in a problem that I've not resolved.

Any ideas of what I'm doing wrong?
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Originally Posted by jwv651 View Post

I have been waiting to put some hours on my 6010 before tweeting, haven't had a lot of time, been very busy traveling. The one thing I noticed with the 6010 the picture looks blurry in all picture modes THX/Natural/Dynamic etc., I keep trying to focus it, but it makes no difference. I watch the Lorax last night and it to was somewhat blurry. Not a lot of detail. I'm coming from a Mitisubisi HC6500 which was as sharp as a tack. Is it normal for the 6010 to be last than sharp. Is there a way to improve the sharpness. Like I said I haven't had a lot of time with this projector. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

I feel I have the same issues, some movies look blurry to me.
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Originally Posted by ByteTV01 View Post

Hi All,
I'm considering making one of my rooms into a home theatre and using the 6010 in it.
A couple questions:
1. The room is fairly small @ 14x14x9 so my throw distance would be about 13.5. What would be the maximum screen size diag that I could get with a throw distance that close? I tried using the calculator but that says about 87' which seems pretty small so not sure if I'm using it right.
2. Any word from Epson when they are release their new line of home projectors?
Thanks,

My projector is about the same distance away and I went with 110" Carada
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Originally Posted by Rob from NJ View Post

Finally got around to purchasing Epson's 3D Glasses. All excited to watch 3D with the 5010.
Started by watching a 3D movie on Comcast On Demand. Had to change the 3D Format setting to "Top and Bottom" to get the 3D to work (Auto setting didn't work). Denon 4311 connection to projector are all latest version, high speed HDMI cables.

Any ideas of what I'm doing wrong?

How long is the cable from the Denon to the pj? Try connecting the the pj straight to the blu-ray player, bypassing the denon, to see if the issue goes away. The emitter would have no affect on the 3D error message popping up.

I think that Denon can be set for HDMI pass through, in the HDMI control. Might want to try that as well.
Edited by jnabq - 8/31/12 at 7:27pm
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Originally Posted by Edmundo Lopez View Post

I feel I have the same issues, some movies look blurry to me.

Make sure to allow the pj to warm up for about 30 mins, before making any focus adjustments. Maybe you can provide a screen shot of the out of focus area?
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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

How long is the cable from the Denon to the pj? Try connecting the the pj straight to the blu-ray player, bypassing the denon, to see if the issue goes away. The emitter would have no affect on the 3D error message popping up.
I think that Denon can be set for HDMI pass through, in the HDMI control. Might want to try that as well.
jnabq,

Thanks for the reply. The HDMI cable is approximately 20 feet from AVR to projector. So its definitely a blu-ray player and disc issue. Tonight, after at least 20 attempts finally got the disc to play. Have to go through a crazy ritual of loading the disc and then shutting off the player to turn on again with disc inside. The second time it loads, I press Play and keep my finger on the button. Eventually, it kicks on. Got the disc playing two times this evening. Have to admit, Hugo is a great movie for 3D. With the Epson 5010 and Black Diamond screen, the 3D picture is simply amazing. Stunningly beautiful film.
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Has anyone experienced a lot of crosstalk with their 6010? It seems no matter what source I use whether it be a top bottom or side by side 3d and even 2d -> 3d I get a lot of cross talk to the point it is unwatchable for me.

I have an HTPC with MPC-HD connected to an Onkyo TX-NR818 (set to direct pass through) and then to HDMI 1 on my 6010. I set about 8ft away from the screen with the projector sitting at around 13 ft.
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I was playing with the calculator on Epsons website and I noticed they don't have a calculator for screens with the 2:35:1 cinemascope ratio. What is the minimum throw distance I'd be able to go with if I wanted to use say, a 115" or 125" cinemascope screen? Reason being, I'm vertically limited, not horizontally, so I'd be able to get a bigger screen if I got a cinemascope screen.
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Originally Posted by Blackdevil77 View Post

I was playing with the calculator on Epsons website and I noticed they don't have a calculator for screens with the 2:35:1 cinemascope ratio. What is the minimum throw distance I'd be able to go with if I wanted to use say, a 115" or 125" cinemascope screen? Reason being, I'm vertically limited, not horizontally, so I'd be able to get a bigger screen if I got a cinemascope screen.

this one is better! http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator-pro.cfm
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Originally Posted by hrc4u View Post

this one is better! http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator-pro.cfm

Thank You!
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Originally Posted by cischico View Post

Has anyone experienced a lot of crosstalk with their 6010? It seems no matter what source I use whether it be a top bottom or side by side 3d and even 2d -> 3d I get a lot of cross talk to the point it is unwatchable for me.
I have an HTPC with MPC-HD connected to an Onkyo TX-NR818 (set to direct pass through) and then to HDMI 1 on my 6010. I set about 8ft away from the screen with the projector sitting at around 13 ft.

Have you been able to try using a 3D bluray player, to isolate it to the htpc setup, or the pj?
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