Official Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 5010 / 6010 thread - Page 83

120" at 7' iMax lover.

133" High Power @ 13 feet. Awesome pic.

Cool - glad to see those distances - I am at about 135" spandex screen at just over 12 feet sitting distance.

I would definitely get the newer 5020 if you aren't paying too much of a premium to get the latest projector. There are some improved feature benefits with the new unit - but it's more evolutionary than revolutionary in my opinion. The fact that the new 5020 INCLUDES 2 PAIRS of 3D glasses (the 5010 doesn't) might make this an easy decision . . . BUT . . . if the price of the 5010 (after factoring the the cost of a couple of pairs of glasses) is somewhat cheaper, I would go with the 5010. It has been a projector that both consumers and reviewers love . . . and there is certainly nothing wrong with the image (especially for the price) to complain about.

Bottom line . . . I'd get the 5020 if it proves to better deal than the 5010. Maybe there are deals out there now with the 5010 being replaced? If so, I'd definitely scoop-up a great deal on the 5010.

If you do go with the 5010, it's nice to know that Epson hasn't, this year, reinvented-the-wheel with the newer 5020 projector. They are using the same chassis and are basing all of their new 3D projectors on the series XX10 designs. Even the replacement bulbs for the the 2012 projectors use the same replacement models as the 2011 product.

Just my two cents . . .

Ian

Personally I would wait for reviews of the upcoming projectors. So far it really sounds like Panasonic got the 8000 right and that would be my top choice. The 3D motion compensation, improved brightness, only 34 milliseconds lag, and of course smoothscreen would be really nice.

152" Seymour AT material. Seating distance of ~15 feet.

Confused about how 3D settiongs are working

I am finding that when I put in a 3D movie, it brings up a selection screen for 3D or 2D. I select 3D, then it goes on for a few minutes through all the crap of getting connected, playing trailers in 2D; etc, then brings up the Play menu in 2D. If I select play, it plays in 2D.

So, if I press the 2D/3D button it plays in 3D, but I"m not sure it is playing from the 3D version, or the 2D and converting it. I've only played 3 moves for 3D,. and have seen very little pop-out, only seeing depth. I saw some, but not much, pop-out on Hugo 3D, but it wasn't what I call a good movie to showcase 3D like I've read.

Any thoughts or insights?

I've just have tried some movies..just got my Epson...but i confirmed through menu..and under signal i think the 3d settings are....that the setting where right...

Gt-I9000 Cm10

Sorry...While you quoted my post, I don't see how that answers anything about what I asked.

I meant look in projector menu..so that 2d-3d conversion is off...and so on..

Gt-I9000 Cm10

Oh. Ok. Thanks.

So that leaves me with another question. If 2D-3D conversion is ON (although NOT activated), I was expecting that if I play an actual 3D move, and select 3D, that it would play in natural 3D, and not conversion. Anyone know if that is the case?

I have the same issue. I'm using almost maximum zoom and a fair amount of lens shift and I don't get perfect pixel sharpness anywhere on the screen, and on the side which is the farthest from the lens center text is actually quite blurry and I have the same 'bloom' effect mentioned by byte buster. I remember I had the exact same situation with my Panasonic AE-2000U a few years ago, but nothing like this with the JVC DLA-X3 I used up until now.

Is this normal for for this PJ?

Due to limitations in the layout our 5010 is gonna have to get mounted at about 8 feet from floor.  how loud is this projector?  Will the fan be distracting ? Seating will be behind the projector approx 4 feet 

I don't know if this is normal or not; but I have seen quite a few people - including myself - experience this. I'm apt to believe this is normal for this PJ. I'm at maximum zoom myself, with quite a bit of lens shift; although I do get perfect pixel sharpness in the center -- it's a small circular area in the absolute center. As you start to go towards the edges -- the sharpness decreases considerably. However, it's not extremely blurry either at the edges.

I have a small Home Theater and so I've settled with what I have. I'm getting nothing more then 90" Diagonal - which is somewhat 'sad' considering the capabilities of this PJ. Eventually I'll be moving the HT to a larger room and hopefully that will alleviate some of the pixel sharpness issues.


My 5010 is mounted 8 feet from the floor; we sit right underneath the PJ - it's literally over our heads. We have never heard the fans or any noise whatsoever from the PJ, except when you are turning it ON or OFF and the lens cover slides. That's it. I have yet to hear any other noise at all.

Mickey, thank you for your reply. Makes me feel better about lower height.Our original height was closer to 9.5' but due throw distance and the location where the projector has a support beam blocking the mounting location. So my installer recommended to hang the projector from bottom of beam to maintain the throw ratio and 119" screen size.
Edited by y2k02c5 - 9/20/12 at 9:42am

Well, I"m not getting much feedback. Maybe few people play in 3D. I'm beginning to think it's not worth the investment in the glasses.

JFYI, where I'm at now is, I turned off 2D-3D conversion; 3D set to Auto; it will NOT play in 3D even though I selected 3D on the initial pop-up screen. I"m beginning to think that the problem is that the DVDs play things through so many hoops without 3D that the DVD player doesn't think it is a 3D 'tv'. I have had this problem to some extent on the other 3D DVD I played, although it did ultimately play in 3D with the 2D-3D turned off.

I'm not sure what to think about this.

[EDIT]
Just tried with PIrates of the Caribbean - On Stranger Tides, and get same thing. One of the things that happens during all the different screens is several seconds of it saying in the lower left corner 'wireless not receiving signal', which always happens when I change sources, or change from 2D-3D.
Edited by Ewingr - 9/20/12 at 2:28pm

My first projector I had to push the 3D button. It seems to be over that now. Maybe a firmware update on my replacement projector fixed it. Now I just pop it in and all is good. On conversions you cannot get pop out effect at all. Pop out isn't all 3D is about of course. Depth is good too. Try Harold and Kumar 3D or Kung Fu Panda 2. They throw a lot of stuff in your face. H&K more than anything.

I presume you mean the 2D-3D button. My presumption is that is only for conversion from 2D-3D. But I'm not sure. [EDIT] i just tried this: 2D-3D conversion is OFF. When I push the 2D-3D button, it does switch to 3D. I presume then it is playing actual 3D, and not converting 2D content. But would like validation. Maybe I should just call Epson and inquire.

i agree completely about pop-out. But while I"m learning about all this, I just want to be sure I know how to operate correctly, and get the best of the 3D when I do bother with it.

From what I know: The 2D/3D button is to force 3D on 3D input, not for 2D-3D conversion. The automatic function is to detect a HDMI 1.4 3D Stream. If sending a top/bottom or side-by-side format the auto can't pick that up and you need to push the 2D/3D button. My first projector the automatic didn't detect 3D right, so I am guessing a newer firmware in my replacement projector does and I have no problem.

Does anyone else see this (text on screen shimmering/shaking or pulsating when projector is in cinema or natural modes).
EDIT: You gotta be up close to the screen to notice this (within 1-5 feet)

Contacted Epson. They mentioned that some other customers have also complained about this.
They asked me to keep the projector running for a few hours in living room mode. And then switch back to cinema. Giving it a try. So far no difference. Will be contacting them again

I like sitting close (7') but 5 feet seems really close. 1-5 feet all I see is giant screen door effect. Could be a bulb issue. Try changing from eco to full (or the other way around) for like 10 hours or so.

From my observations, if 2D to 3D conversion is set to on, in the 3D setup menu, then the remote 2d/3d button works to have the pj display 2d images in 3d. If that setting isn't set to on, and there is no 3d source to the pj, the button does nothing, with a message stating something about "the current input/image display settings do not display in 3d". But as wnielsenbb said, the remote button will toggle between 2d/3d, if the signal is recognized as 3d content.

Seems dependent on the setting of 2d-3d conversion in the menu, and if 3d content is being received to the pj, as to how the button functions.

We use 3D a lot; I'm not really sure why you're having this issue. As 42 pointed out -- I'm also interested in your chain from Source to Projector.

My 3D capable devices (3D Blu-ray Player; 3D HTPC & XBOX 360) are connected to a 3D Capable AVR (Yamaha RX-A2000) via HDMI cables. I have the Projector connected to the AVR via HDMI cable. As soon as I pop-in a 3D Blu-ray on my Blu-ray player or play a 3D Blu-ray ISO on my 3D HTPC (using Total Media Theater software); the Projector automtically switches to 3D. I just have to turn on my Glasses. I have the 2D => 3D Conversion set to OFF and 3D Format set to "AUTO".

If I play a 3D Game on XBOX 360, however, I have to manually select "SIDE-BY-SIDE" in my 3D Options on the projector. Only for 3D Blu-rays the projector selects automatically; and that is how we use 3D the most.

I'm also assuming that you mean "Blu-ray" when you say "DVD". The 3D format available on DVD's is different then that on Blu-ray.

After 8 months and 305 hrs. my 5010 would not turn on with remote. Had to use power button on pj. Do have an old XP (101 firmware) but going to wait to see what happens.

mark

At this point I'd say yes it does force 3D. But I can say that it also turns on 2D to 3D conversion, as that is how I had been using it.

Yes I will try that after contacting Epson. Thanks

mark

Wireless? so this is the 5010E correct?

Just seen in another thread, PS3 3D glasses on sale for $29.99 at bestbuy. Pretty good price if ya need some. Little smaller on the head, (to me) than the Epsons, little darker but rechargeable.