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post #2761 of 3331
I'm getting a 5020 and been wondering about the extended 1 year warranty (that comes with the 6020)...Is it worth getting this extra year of warranty? Do these projectors often fail over time? Anyone who has Epson who would recommend this extra warranty?
post #2762 of 3331
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Originally Posted by mhariush View Post

I'm getting a 5020 and been wondering about the extended 1 year warranty (that comes with the 6020)...Is it worth getting this extra year of warranty? Do these projectors often fail over time? Anyone who has Epson who would recommend this extra warranty?

Reposted here,

Any pj can fail over time, and I don't think I would buy just for the extra year. I did buy a 6010 that came with the extra bulb, mount, and glasses. The extra year warranty was just icing on the cake. Some credit cards will extend a warranty and might be worth a look versus the extra amount paid, or even a warranty company.
post #2763 of 3331
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Originally Posted by luner99 View Post

I was hoping to see others images to somewhat compare my quality/sharpness to others.
The projector looks pretty good but was hoping to have a little sharper image (more 1080p looking). Hopefully others can post some of their photos that I can use to compare - plus, pictures are always great to see!

Sorry, my camera and photography skills are crap. Check the photos on projectorreviews.com for this pj for some good comparisons. Make sure to wait about 30 mins before doing any focus adjustments. Not as sharp as a dlp, but the lcd/lens on this pj is pretty good imho. Also if you want to make this pj better, consider the Darblet video processor. Really helped mine in the sharpness aspect. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet
post #2764 of 3331
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Originally Posted by luner99 View Post

I recieved my 5010e a few weeks ago and was finally able to install in over the holiday break. There are a ton of comments and pages here in the forum but the number of photos of PQ or images of their PJs is very limited... I was hoping to see others images to somewhat compare my quality/sharpness to others.
The projector looks pretty good but was hoping to have a little sharper image (more 1080p looking). Hopefully others can post some of their photos that I can use to compare - plus, pictures are always great to see!
Thanks so much!
Scott
PS - the 5010e has only been up for a few days but here are a few shots that I took during the first few movies we watched.

 

Silly question...but are you watching a DVD vs. a BluRay ?

 

I actually had a member of the Academy - who never really saw a personal home theater and he was AMAZED at how awesome a BluRay looked on my 6010 - when we put in a DVD, still looked good...but nothing compared to a BluRay.

 

Problem is - if you are used to DVD on a say 50" screen...the 1080P is good...as you scale up to say a 120" screen...that same DVD does not look as sharp.

post #2765 of 3331
Hello All

I'm new and have been reading this forum in hopes to buy the 5010 based on the reviews.

After reading through most of the post on the 5010 I'm starting to get worried that the 5010 may be too bright or not the right fit for my dedicated media room. My room is 19x14x8, my screen will be a JamesTown 110 in 16:9 with 1.2 gain, and my throw distance can be anything up to the 19ft (I was thinking around 16). I will have dark walls and ceilings and light will be controlled for the most part. I'm not that big on 3D (I know that is why the 5010 puts out more lumens than most) but have heard a lot of great things about the overall 2D viewing from the 5010. My question is, Is the 5010 right for me or is there another Epson that would fit my needs (is it too bright)? I was in a similar sized room as mine and he has a 125in screen and it seemed too big for me. That is why I have decided to go with 110. I don't want to go any bigger.

I will be mostly watching movies, TV, and sports. Again, not that hung up on the 3D.


Any help and input is much appreciated and thanks in advance!
post #2766 of 3331
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Originally Posted by smallkal View Post

Hello All
I'm new and have been reading this forum in hopes to buy the 5010 based on the reviews.
After reading through most of the post on the 5010 I'm starting to get worried that the 5010 may be too bright or not the right fit for my dedicated media room. My room is 19x14x8, my screen will be a JamesTown 110 in 16:9 with 1.2 gain, and my throw distance can be anything up to the 19ft (I was thinking around 16). I will have dark walls and ceilings and light will be controlled for the most part. I'm not that big on 3D (I know that is why the 5010 puts out more lumens than most) but have heard a lot of great things about the overall 2D viewing from the 5010. My question is, Is the 5010 right for me or is there another Epson that would fit my needs (is it too bright)? I was in a similar sized room as mine and he has a 125in screen and it seemed too big for me. That is why I have decided to go with 110. I don't want to go any bigger.
I will be mostly watching movies, TV, and sports. Again, not that hung up on the 3D.
Any help and input is much appreciated and thanks in advance!

It is NEVER too BRIGHT.

I use it with a 144" Screen with a GAIN of 2.0.
It is the BEST PJ I have owned in more than 20+ Years.

Why a 5010 versus the newer 5020?

Hank
post #2767 of 3331
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Originally Posted by smallkal View Post

Hello All
I'm new and have been reading this forum in hopes to buy the 5010 based on the reviews.
After reading through most of the post on the 5010 I'm starting to get worried that the 5010 may be too bright or not the right fit for my dedicated media room. My room is 19x14x8, my screen will be a JamesTown 110 in 16:9 with 1.2 gain, and my throw distance can be anything up to the 19ft (I was thinking around 16). I will have dark walls and ceilings and light will be controlled for the most part. I'm not that big on 3D (I know that is why the 5010 puts out more lumens than most) but have heard a lot of great things about the overall 2D viewing from the 5010. My question is, Is the 5010 right for me or is there another Epson that would fit my needs (is it too bright)? I was in a similar sized room as mine and he has a 125in screen and it seemed too big for me. That is why I have decided to go with 110. I don't want to go any bigger.
I will be mostly watching movies, TV, and sports. Again, not that hung up on the 3D.
Any help and input is much appreciated and thanks in advance!

I run the 6010, 114 1.3 gain and a 17' throw. It is not too bright. I always feel the image could be brighter, but that is just a preference.

It will be perfect in your room.
post #2768 of 3331
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Originally Posted by smallkal View Post

Hello All
I'm new and have been reading this forum in hopes to buy the 5010 based on the reviews.
After reading through most of the post on the 5010 I'm starting to get worried that the 5010 may be too bright or not the right fit for my dedicated media room. My room is 19x14x8, my screen will be a JamesTown 110 in 16:9 with 1.2 gain, and my throw distance can be anything up to the 19ft (I was thinking around 16). I will have dark walls and ceilings and light will be controlled for the most part. I'm not that big on 3D (I know that is why the 5010 puts out more lumens than most) but have heard a lot of great things about the overall 2D viewing from the 5010. My question is, Is the 5010 right for me or is there another Epson that would fit my needs (is it too bright)? I was in a similar sized room as mine and he has a 125in screen and it seemed too big for me. That is why I have decided to go with 110. I don't want to go any bigger.
I will be mostly watching movies, TV, and sports. Again, not that hung up on the 3D.
Any help and input is much appreciated and thanks in advance!

Just as an opinion, I have a 120" Jamestown White screen in a 12.5' wide room with my 5010 at a 16' throw. The 5010 was an upgrade from an 8700UB and even with the extra Lumens I can tell you it is not TOO bright. Actually it is perfect as I can run it in eco mode for the quieter fan noise. It is all personal preference but I would go with the 120" screen over 110" that would seem too small to me, I have even thought that if I ever changed the screen I would go 130."
post #2769 of 3331
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Originally Posted by smallkal View Post

Hello All
I'm new and have been reading this forum in hopes to buy the 5010 based on the reviews.
After reading through most of the post on the 5010 I'm starting to get worried that the 5010 may be too bright or not the right fit for my dedicated media room. My room is 19x14x8, my screen will be a JamesTown 110 in 16:9 with 1.2 gain, and my throw distance can be anything up to the 19ft (I was thinking around 16). I will have dark walls and ceilings and light will be controlled for the most part. I'm not that big on 3D (I know that is why the 5010 puts out more lumens than most) but have heard a lot of great things about the overall 2D viewing from the 5010. My question is, Is the 5010 right for me or is there another Epson that would fit my needs (is it too bright)? I was in a similar sized room as mine and he has a 125in screen and it seemed too big for me. That is why I have decided to go with 110. I don't want to go any bigger.
I will be mostly watching movies, TV, and sports. Again, not that hung up on the 3D.
Any help and input is much appreciated and thanks in advance!

 

Nope....I run at a 13' throw on a 1.2 gain screen and it is not too bright....and I have a total light controlled room with dark walls.

post #2770 of 3331
Ok hoping someone in the "know" can give me an answer on this smile.gif

I guess this is a good a place if any to ask. I plan on getting this projector, but I'm still trying to figure out if the placement I want is going to work. I was going to have a 106" screen with a throw distance of about 12'2" From what it looks like it should work, but I'm just curious if I'll have to sacrifice picture quality to achieve that? Will the normal settings from the projector work at that distance? I am about a new and as wet behind the ear as you can be with projectors, so learning as I go. Any helpful insights would be greatly appreciated
post #2771 of 3331
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Originally Posted by Theheadsn View Post

but I'm just curious if I'll have to sacrifice picture quality to achieve that? Will the normal settings from the projector work at that distance? Any helpful insights would be greatly appreciated

The image quality will be fine for those conditions, and eco mode will be quite sufficient. You can use coderguys calc to play with some settings to help pick a screen gain number. http://www.eliteprojectorcalculator.com/
post #2772 of 3331
Hi everyone. I recently purchased an Epson 5010 and overall have been quite pleased. There is one thing that has been bothering me though and I'm not sure if its normal or not since this is my first projector.

My issue is basically seeing very faint vertical lines (light white in color) in the middle of the screen during some instances. This can happen whether I'm watching cable (U-Verse) or a blu ray via my HDMI cables. The only times this is truly noticeable is when there are bright shots (or even a white screen) and the camera is often times panning left or right. There are about 4-6 vertical lines close to the center of the screen that I notice. They don't vertically stretch the entire height of the screen. They are visible in the upper half of the screen only. The settings have been mostly untouched as I haven't had time to truly calibrate it.

For a while I was thinking I was just being overly picky or that the lines where from the screen (Visual Apex 106") and not the projector. The lines are never noticeable during darker or color-rich shots. I sat down to watch basketball tonight and the lines were quite notice as the camera panned up and down the court. I never noticed the lines when watching football.

Is any of what I described natural? Are there any settings I need to tweak to make these lines go away? Is my best course of action to contact Epson? One of the main reasons I went with an Epson was because of their supposed stellar customer service. I was hoping not to find out how great they were this fast as I've only had the projector up and running for about a month.

Any input one may have regarding my issue would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
post #2773 of 3331
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Originally Posted by Jetson312 View Post


Is any of what I described natural? Are there any settings I need to tweak to make these lines go away? Is my best course of action to contact Epson? One of the main reasons I went with an Epson was because of their supposed stellar customer service. I was hoping not to find out how great they were this fast as I've only had the projector up and running for about a month.

Any input one may have regarding my issue would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

I have NO CLUE what you are seeing - I would call Epson On Thursday.

We all have PERFECT Pictures.
post #2774 of 3331
The lines I spoke of in the above post could be described as ghosting type lines. Very faint yet noticeable during panning shots. The lines are not even white as I described above. I tried running the hdmi cable from the projector directly to the source (cable box) to make sure the lines were not being caused by the hdmi switcher or audio receiver. The faint vertical lines were still noticeable in the type of shots described above (basketball). This may be something I just have to learn to live with but if this sounds like something is wrong with the projector, I'll contact Epson and inquire about how to fix the issue or replace the projector.
post #2775 of 3331
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

I have NO CLUE what you are seeing - I would call Epson On Thursday.

We all have PERFECT Pictures.

Thanks for the replay. I had a feeling that was probably going to be the case. I just can't think what would be causing it.
post #2776 of 3331
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Originally Posted by Jetson312 View Post

Thanks for the replay. I had a feeling that was probably going to be the case. I just can't think what would be causing it.

I have Owned Projectors since 1979 when Henry Kloss finally released, the first large screen
projection television for home use. In 1977, Kloss founded Kloss Video Corporation (KVC)
as a spin-off company. He invented the Novatron tube there, which increased the efficiency
of projection TVs.

Epson does not have the best quality control but they have the BEST CUSTOMER SUPPORT
and will get your PJ running.
post #2777 of 3331
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Originally Posted by Jetson312 View Post

There are about 4-6 vertical lines close to the center of the screen that I notice. They don't vertically stretch the entire height of the screen. They are visible in the upper half of the screen only. The settings have been mostly untouched as I haven't had time to truly calibrate it.

I don't own one of these projectors yet, but I wonder if this could have something to do with hotspotting with a combination of your screen and projector. When you see these lines, move to a different part of the room and see if the lines move too or go away.
post #2778 of 3331
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetson312 View Post

Hi everyone. I recently purchased an Epson 5010 and overall have been quite pleased. There is one thing that has been bothering me though and I'm not sure if its normal or not since this is my first projector.

My issue is basically seeing very faint vertical lines (light white in color) in the middle of the screen during some instances. This can happen whether I'm watching cable (U-Verse) or a blu ray via my HDMI cables. The only times this is truly noticeable is when there are bright shots (or even a white screen) and the camera is often times panning left or right. There are about 4-6 vertical lines close to the center of the screen that I notice. They don't vertically stretch the entire height of the screen. They are visible in the upper half of the screen only. The settings have been mostly untouched as I haven't had time to truly calibrate it.

For a while I was thinking I was just being overly picky or that the lines where from the screen (Visual Apex 106") and not the projector. The lines are never noticeable during darker or color-rich shots. I sat down to watch basketball tonight and the lines were quite notice as the camera panned up and down the court. I never noticed the lines when watching football.

Is any of what I described natural? Are there any settings I need to tweak to make these lines go away? Is my best course of action to contact Epson? One of the main reasons I went with an Epson was because of their supposed stellar customer service. I was hoping not to find out how great they were this fast as I've only had the projector up and running for about a month.

Any input one may have regarding my issue would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Are you running Dynamic or Living Room mode?
If so, try switching to Natural or Cinema for a test to see if the lines go away.

*If you could post your picture settings, it may help us troubleshoot your issue.
You can never provide to much info when asking for help.
post #2779 of 3331
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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post


That's what mine did a few times then one time, the light didn't come on, Lamp LED started to flash red on projector, lens cover closed & projector shut off.

I unplugged it for about 5 minutes & it powered up normally.

This was around 100 hours.


I had Epson send me a new lamp and it hasn't done that since.

I had this happen to my 5010 about 4 months ago and Epson was kind enough to replace the bulb. This seemed to fix the problem until last night, when I got the ultra-fast fan speed during warmup, and finally the flashing red lamp light. I called Epson, and went through their troubleshooting by powering off the projector, unplugging, and reseating the bulb. This fixed the problem, but from past experience this is only temporary. The technician on the phone agreed and stated that it obvoiusly was not a bulb problem, and it was probably a loose connection somewhere. When it happens again, he stated that they would replace the projector.
post #2780 of 3331
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Originally Posted by Jetson312 View Post

Hi everyone. I recently purchased an Epson 5010 and overall have been quite pleased. There is one thing that has been bothering me though and I'm not sure if its normal or not since this is my first projector.

My issue is basically seeing very faint vertical lines (light white in color) in the middle of the screen during some instances. This can happen whether I'm watching cable (U-Verse) or a blu ray via my HDMI cables. The only times this is truly noticeable is when there are bright shots (or even a white screen) and the camera is often times panning left or right. There are about 4-6 vertical lines close to the center of the screen that I notice. They don't vertically stretch the entire height of the screen. They are visible in the upper half of the screen only. The settings have been mostly untouched as I haven't had time to truly calibrate it.

For a while I was thinking I was just being overly picky or that the lines where from the screen (Visual Apex 106") and not the projector. The lines are never noticeable during darker or color-rich shots. I sat down to watch basketball tonight and the lines were quite notice as the camera panned up and down the court. I never noticed the lines when watching football.

Is any of what I described natural? Are there any settings I need to tweak to make these lines go away? Is my best course of action to contact Epson? One of the main reasons I went with an Epson was because of their supposed stellar customer service. I was hoping not to find out how great they were this fast as I've only had the projector up and running for about a month.

Any input one may have regarding my issue would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

It may be some "vertical banding"?
http://www.projectorcentral.com/banding_rainbows.htm
post #2781 of 3331
Thanks to all who offered suggestions or input. Let me try a couple of the suggestions and I'll report back along with some of my current settings. I also contacted Epson who recommended trying a shorter HDMI cable to try and pin point the problem. They also recommended running the test pattern to see if the lines are visible. Again, it only seems to be noticeable when the camera is panning left or right.
post #2782 of 3331
Is there anybody out there willing to post up screens of their DIP switch settings.
Reason I ask is because I own a 5010 and would like to compare the DIP switch settings from a TW-9000 or a 6010 with THX mode enabled and a 5010 as the 5010 doesn't have THX mode enabled and it may only be a DIP switch setting away and for all intents and purposes these models are essentially the same.

I used the settings posted here to change the DIP switch setting for the LCD alignment menu, in the 5010 it comes already enabled. I wanted to see if if changing the setting would disable it. Sure enough moving the DIP switch makes the menu option disappear. Thinking along these lines I'd like to compare the 2 models DIP switch settings to see if they differ and if they do see what happens if I use the same settings, if only to rule it out.
If somebody is willing to post up the screens of all 6 DIP switch settings I will post back my results. If anybody wants me to post my settings I will do.

Thanks for any help.
post #2783 of 3331
I posted the settings for my 6010 a while back, and with the exception of the "lcd alignment menu" switch in the 3010, they were all the same, but your welcome to take a look.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1377321/official-epson-powerlite-home-cinema-5010-6010-thread/1650#post_21938665

woops, you wanted the settings with THX "enabled". That maybe something to look into. I'll see what I can do later in the day.
post #2784 of 3331
Went ahead and checked. There wasn't a difference in the dip switches, from my previous posted settings, with THX mode enabled.
post #2785 of 3331
SUGGESTIONS FOR EPSON 5010/6010 IMPROVEMENT:

Love my 5010 (with Darbee in the HDMI line)--But:

1. Add an ATSC TUNER for over-the-air broadcasts. The evil cable people reduce bitrates from the original 1080i broadcasts and "steal" bits to support other programming. So your football games fight for bits with the basketball on another channel.

2. New TEST PATTERN: Put a real test pattern in the projector for resolution, color bars and focus.

3. We are all hot for 4K even if there is no 4K native material. The 4K and 8K processing in "Lawrence of Arabia" new Blu-Ray is spectactular on our 2K 5010.

4. Drop 3D; it does not add anything to feature films, it's darker and the glasses are a pain in the ass. IMAX features are nice and I own a dozen, but I won't buy any more. If Epson wants to make a "5011" a little
cheaper without either 3D or the 3D simulator, I think we could trade for other features.smile.gif

5. Zoom and focus wheels: Too much friction--loosen up.

gil
post #2786 of 3331
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Originally Posted by kaotikr1 View Post

I am going to disagree with you.

I bought an Epson 6010, and while I am not sure of your budget and to you the 6010 may very well be a "cheap" projector, I think what it adds is quite pleasing to the eye.

I don't totally understand the directors intent angle. What is the intent, that we all watch movies in total darkness, is everyone listening to the audio at reference levels, do you have enough subs to satisfy the infrasonic freq that was intended?

Also even if you paid someone to calibrate your projector are you going to have them come out after every 50 hours to make tweaks to it so you are at the level of what the director intended? What about those that don't have a display capable of being calibrated to 100% ISF standards. I see a lot of calibration reports where the end result is much better than the start, but it's not 100% perfect, nor is it pry ever, so how do we get to the point where we are displayed what the filmmakers intended?

RIGHT ON. If the director wants it his way--he can build his own theater. gil
post #2787 of 3331
Thread Starter 
I just hit 500 hours on the lamp and I'm starting to notice some brightness loss.
I run in Natural color mode and ECO light mode.
I could use Normal lamp mode but I hate the added fan noise.

So I decided to play around with Living Room color mode using the Disney WOW disc and actually got a fairliy bright image with decent color. Actually not too bright either in my bat cave.

Probably not as good as it could be with a real calibration but without a comparison, most people probably can't tell.
Anyway, try the setting if you like.
The black level/contrast will be raised due to the added light brightness but the added brightness adds some pop to the PQ.




post #2788 of 3331

So I am confused...isn't living room mode the same "output" as natural  - just designed for more ambient light ?

 

If that is correct, are you suggesting that your WOW calibration made it work quite well in low light with your bulb dimming ?  if so WOW   - sorry , no pun intended and could not help it!

post #2789 of 3331
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by toofast68 View Post

So I am confused...isn't living room mode the same "output" as natural  - just designed for more ambient light ?

If that is correct, are you suggesting that your WOW calibration made it work quite well in low light with your bulb dimming ?  if so WOW   - sorry , no pun intended and could not help it!
Living room mode is considerably brighter than Natural mode.
I believe it also changes some lens aspects as well as you can hear lens movement when switching between Natural & Living Room.
post #2790 of 3331
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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post


Living room mode is considerably brighter than Natural mode.
I believe it also changes some lens aspects as well as you can hear lens movement when switching between Natural & Living Room.

Wow I learned something new....I wonder what the heck is really going on in Living room mode then if the "light output" is the same, since both in ECO mode.

 

I will record your settings, but my theater is down for awhile for the finishing touches, so won't be able to test for sometime!

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