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post #2821 of 3038
1/29/13 at 4:10pm
I think it's cheaper to just get a 2.35:1 screen (pulldown/powered) and just put it in front of your other screen for when you need it. smile.gif
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post #2822 of 3038
1/29/13 at 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by Gil Arroyo View Post

I have a FAVI 120 inch screen and I love 2.35. I also NOT CARE if I have the dreaded "black bars" top and bottom with a full width picture.
If the "bars" annoy you (or your wife) so much, you can eliminate half of them with the postion control and send top or bottom to
oblivion into black velvet behind your screen.
The anamorphic add-on lens is a waste of money, forgedaboudit.
gil

I disagree. There are many benifits other than just the scope image. Your image will be brighter and sharper, you can go larger than what you can normally get out of your throw distance, and of course the black bars will be gone. If the lense was 10bux you would probably be all over it but since it is expensive i guess it is a waste of money. wink.gif
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post #2823 of 3038
1/29/13 at 5:00pm
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Originally Posted by Nambit View Post

I think it's cheaper to just get a 2.35:1 screen (pulldown/powered) and just put it in front of your other screen for when you need it. smile.gif

Yes it is cheaper. Not the cleanest way though. You can also get a VP to do CIH. It is also expensive but you can find a used Lumagen.
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post #2824 of 3038
2/1/13 at 8:21pm
It looks as if I may be going with the Epson PL 5010 for my first projector. Could someone provide me with the EXACT width between the two front feet on the bottom of the PJ (outside of one foot to the outside of the other foot)? I am trying to determine if I am going to build my own shelf or if it will fit nicely on a 15.5D X 17.5W glass shelf like this one.

If someone could measure from the outside of each of the feet that would be great. I checked the manual and while they have a bunch of dimensions for overall width, length, height...they do not provide this critical measurement. The width of the PJ is listed as 18.3" but I may be able to get away with this shelf if the feet are at least an inch "in" on each side. I particularly like this shelf because it is glass and because the glass starts just 1" off the wall.

The Omnimount ECSB shelf glass starts 5" off the wall and goes out to 21". I'm afraid this will be out too far for my taste.

Thanks in advance for your help!
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post #2825 of 3038
2/2/13 at 8:27am
My 5010 is mounted on a shelf too. It is 16 3/4" wide to the outside of the feet. It is about the same from the back wall to the front of the feet, but it could go back a bit if it had to. That shelf will work pefect but I would move it away from the wall an inch or two. *edit: Oh, I see the shelf now. You can probably use it as is. Dang that thing is really cool, and cheap. I like cool and cheap.
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post #2826 of 3038
2/2/13 at 8:35am
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Originally Posted by AnnapolisSony View Post

It looks as if I may be going with the Epson PL 5010 for my first projector. Could someone provide me with the EXACT width between the two front feet on the bottom of the PJ (outside of one foot to the outside of the other foot)? I am trying to determine if I am going to build my own shelf or if it will fit nicely on a 15.5D X 17.5W glass shelf like this one.

If someone could measure from the outside of each of the feet that would be great. I checked the manual and while they have a bunch of dimensions for overall width, length, height...they do not provide this critical measurement. The width of the PJ is listed as 18.3" but I may be able to get away with this shelf if the feet are at least an inch "in" on each side. I particularly like this shelf because it is glass and because the glass starts just 1" off the wall.

The Omnimount ECSB shelf glass starts 5" off the wall and goes out to 21". I'm afraid this will be out too far for my taste.

Thanks in advance for your help!
About 16 3/4 feet to feet.

The projector vents from the front so no need to worry about how close it is to the back wall.

Looks like shelf will work though from looking at the over all dimensions of the projector.
See page 16
http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/plhc5010/plhc5010ug.pdf
Edited by 42Plasmaman - 2/2/13 at 8:41am
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post #2827 of 3038
2/2/13 at 8:36am
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Originally Posted by AnnapolisSony View Post

It looks as if I may be going with the Epson PL 5010 for my first projector. Could someone provide me with the EXACT width between the two front feet on the bottom of the PJ (outside of one foot to the outside of the other foot)? I am trying to determine if I am going to build my own shelf or if it will fit nicely on a 15.5D X 17.5W glass shelf like this one.

If someone could measure from the outside of each of the feet that would be great. I checked the manual and while they have a bunch of dimensions for overall width, length, height...they do not provide this critical measurement. The width of the PJ is listed as 18.3" but I may be able to get away with this shelf if the feet are at least an inch "in" on each side. I particularly like this shelf because it is glass and because the glass starts just 1" off the wall.

The Omnimount ECSB shelf glass starts 5" off the wall and goes out to 21". I'm afraid this will be out too far for my taste.

Thanks in advance for your help!

42.5cm apart, outside to outside.

Has anybody come up with a solution for the focus problem because it is now beginning to get on my nerves. Quite often I have to refocus after switching the projector on. Seemingly it seems to happen mostly after viewing 3d material .Doesn't matter if I leave it to warm up as it will still stay out of focus.
I have a suspicion the sliding door has something to do with the problem combined with the PJ being upside down, but this is ridiculous if this is what affects it.mad.gif
Epson also need to rethink their implementation of lense shift as it's rubbish and should stop creating new models with the same type of adjustment or at least add the ability to lock the lense in position.. However I can live with that if only the damn focus would stay put.

For a high end piece of kit there really are some silly common niggles with these projectors.
Having said all that the picture quality is pretty damn good and the blacks are amazing on a grey screen. Tried a white screen, but it was far too bright, a grey screen is perfect on this PJ even for 3D.
Edited by ashyt16 - 2/2/13 at 9:02am
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post #2828 of 3038
2/2/13 at 10:07am
Huge thanks to wneilsenbb, 42plasmaman & ashyt16! I appreciate you taking the time to get me that dimension. It would appear that this shelf WILL work great with this PJ. Shelf is rated for 25 lbs and the PJ is 18. I especially like the fact that the PJ vents from the front so I do not have to worry about that in the back.

thanks again gentlemen!
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post #2829 of 3038
2/2/13 at 1:45pm
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Originally Posted by ashyt16 View Post

42.5cm apart, outside to outside.

Has anybody come up with a solution for the focus problem because it is now beginning to get on my nerves. Quite often I have to refocus after switching the projector on. Seemingly it seems to happen mostly after viewing 3d material .Doesn't matter if I leave it to warm up as it will still stay out of focus.
I have a suspicion the sliding door has something to do with the problem combined with the PJ being upside down, but this is ridiculous if this is what affects it.mad.gif
Epson also need to rethink their implementation of lense shift as it's rubbish and should stop creating new models with the same type of adjustment or at least add the ability to lock the lense in position.. However I can live with that if only the damn focus would stay put.

For a high end piece of kit there really are some silly common niggles with these projectors.
Having said all that the picture quality is pretty damn good and the blacks are amazing on a grey screen. Tried a white screen, but it was far too bright, a grey screen is perfect on this PJ even for 3D.

Okay, I'm glad to hear someone else say that about the focus, I thought it was just old age! We've got about 100 hours on our 5010 and overall I'm pretty happy with it but agree the manual controls are kind of wonky.
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post #2830 of 3038
2/3/13 at 8:03pm
I recently got this projector from Bestbuy on clearance biggrin.gif since they are making space for the newer models and all I can say is that its amazing!!! Theater experience accomplished! No complains whatsoever
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post #2831 of 3038
2/3/13 at 8:13pm
Which model, the 5010? What was the clearance price? I don't see the 5010 online...
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post #2832 of 3038
2/3/13 at 9:27pm
Yeah the 5010 and sorry I meant open box, but most Bestbuys with Magnolias are getting theirs out cause I went to a few and they had them on display as openbox. You can check Bestbuy.com/dealsnearme and i paid $1800 after negotiating with the manager biggrin.gif
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post #2833 of 3038
2/3/13 at 11:09pm
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Originally Posted by AnnapolisSony View Post

It looks as if I may be going with the Epson PL 5010 for my first projector. Could someone provide me with the EXACT width between the two front feet on the bottom of the PJ (outside of one foot to the outside of the other foot)? I am trying to determine if I am going to build my own shelf or if it will fit nicely on a 15.5D X 17.5W glass shelf like this one.

If someone could measure from the outside of each of the feet that would be great. I checked the manual and while they have a bunch of dimensions for overall width, length, height...they do not provide this critical measurement. The width of the PJ is listed as 18.3" but I may be able to get away with this shelf if the feet are at least an inch "in" on each side. I particularly like this shelf because it is glass and because the glass starts just 1" off the wall.

The Omnimount ECSB shelf glass starts 5" off the wall and goes out to 21". I'm afraid this will be out too far for my taste.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Have you looked at the Omni Mount Tria 1? The dimensions of this shelf are perfect for the 5010/6010 and I bought one recently. It allows the projector to sit closer to a rear wall than the ECS (if an extra inch or two of throw distance is critical), can take up to 30lbs in weight, plus the shelf has a curved glass front that fits almost like a template to the front curvature design of the projector.
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post #2834 of 3038
2/5/13 at 8:31am
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Originally Posted by Divedoc View Post

Hello again...


Now I have tried the thing with the pixel-alignment. It works as follows:


1. Switch on the PJ


2. Press and hold the Menu-Button for 8 sec.


3. Press the ESC-Button twice


Now a new Window with Informations about the Beamer appears. With the

"Arrow-right" and "Arrow-left"-Button you can see several other Information-Windows.


4. Press again the Menu-Button for 8 sec.

5. Press again the ESC-Button twice.


Now a new Windows appears. On the left side you see 6 lines named

"DIP-SW1" to "DIP-SW 6". Move with the "Arrow-down-Button" to "DIP-SW 6" and press "Enter".


On the right side there are 8 lines named "Bit 0" to "Bit 7" and then "0" and "1" with a white (=deactivated) or green (=activated) Rectangle before the 0 or 1.


Move now with the "Arrow-down"-Button to the line named "Bit 5" and then activate with the "Arrow-right"-Button.


Don't change other bits or DIP-Switches!


Now press Enter and then leave the menu by pressing ESC twice.


Now switch off the PJ and then on again.


Now you can find a new submenu named "LCD Alignment" in the "Advanced"-Submenu. Here you can adjust the pixel alignment, you can activate or deactivate the adjustments or reset them.


The "LCD Alignment"-submenu will appear now permanently in the "Advanced"-Submenu until you deactivate "Bit 5" in DIP-SW 6.


The function of the other bits and DIP-Switches is unknown so far...I will play with them a bit and then report here...


Warning: As the function of the other bits and DIP-Switches is unknown, any change might cause problems and/or void warranty...so use it on your own risk...!


Best wishes from good old germany

Michael

Dear all,
I just got a 2nd hand 8700ub. The red panel seems a little bit off (very little).
I searched the web and found this post which seems to be useful for me. But even I change the DIP switches, I can't find the hidden pixel alignment function.
I know it's for 5010 but I guess it may be somehow a similar function should be available for 8700ub (I hope so).
Anyone can share more info for me?
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post #2835 of 3038
2/5/13 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by yipchunyu View Post

Dear all,
I just got a 2nd hand 8700ub. The red panel seems a little bit off (very little).
I searched the web and found this post which seems to be useful for me. But even I change the DIP switches, I can't find the hidden pixel alignment function.
I know it's for 5010 but I guess it may be somehow a similar function should be available for 8700ub (I hope so).
Anyone can share more info for me?
The 30xx, 50xx & 60xx are new Epson projectors that came with pixel alignment.
I do not believe the 8700 had pixel alignment.
You may want to browse the 8700 thread to validate.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1281250/the-official-epson-8700ub-thread
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post #2836 of 3038
2/5/13 at 3:59pm
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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post

The 30xx, 50xx & 60xx are new Epson projectors that came with pixel alignment.
I do not believe the 8700 had pixel alignment.
You may want to browse the 8700 thread to validate.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1281250/the-official-epson-8700ub-thread

So, dumb question here, but how do I know whether I have a pixel alignment issue? I have a 5010 and hesitate to ask because the picture looks just fine to me, but I can't help but ask.
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post #2837 of 3038
2/5/13 at 4:02pm
If it looks fine you are good. that is all it is about anyway. Like I say, I have never invited a bunch of guys to come over and look at test patterns.
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post #2838 of 3038
2/5/13 at 5:51pm
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Originally Posted by josh22 View Post



So, dumb question here, but how do I know whether I have a pixel alignment issue? I have a 5010 and hesitate to ask because the picture looks just fine to me, but I can't help but ask.

If the picture looks fine then don't go down the rabbit hole, it's deep! But honestly the pixel alignment at least in my case was not really beneficial. My convergence was really good to begin with and after lining it up perfectly with the pixel alignment the picture actually was softer! There are some posts linked on the first post that explain why this is.
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post #2839 of 3038
2/9/13 at 1:11pm
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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post

I just hit 500 hours on the lamp and I'm starting to notice some brightness loss.
I run in Natural color mode and ECO light mode.
I could use Normal lamp mode but I hate the added fan noise.

So I decided to play around with Living Room color mode using the Disney WOW disc and actually got a fairliy bright image with decent color. Actually not too bright either in my bat cave.

Probably not as good as it could be with a real calibration but without a comparison, most people probably can't tell.
Anyway, try the setting if you like.
The black level/contrast will be raised due to the added light brightness but the added brightness adds some pop to the PQ.





I noticed a darker picture with brightness loss after 425 hours. Used your recommended settings and my picture for blu-rays is much better. I tweaked the red gain slightly. Thank you for this information. Keep us in the loop with your settings when you hit the next iteration of brightness loss.
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2/11/13 at 2:24am
Sorry guys but I'm back to my focus issue. This really is now starting to annoy me. I have literally seen the focus change before my eyes! Last night whilst using the PC for 4 hours I had to adjust the focus 3 times. Getting beyond a joke now and need to do something about it. I want to ask do people who have the PJ the right way up have these problems? If not I will make a cradle to flip the PJ up the right way.
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post #2841 of 3038
2/11/13 at 9:19am
I have no problems with focus. Call support. They will replace it with a "refurbished" projector with entirely different problems.
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post #2842 of 3038
2/11/13 at 9:59am
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Originally Posted by ashyt16 View Post

Sorry guys but I'm back to my focus issue. This really is now starting to annoy me. I have literally seen the focus change before my eyes! Last night whilst using the PC for 4 hours I had to adjust the focus 3 times. Getting beyond a joke now and need to do something about it. I want to ask do people who have the PJ the right way up have these problems? If not I will make a cradle to flip the PJ up the right way.

I have mine on a shelf right side up and my focus drifts a little over a 3 month period.
I believe it drifts due to 2 things.
LFE
The lens cover opening/closing
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post #2843 of 3038
2/11/13 at 10:10am
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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post

I have mine on a shelf right side up and my focus drifts a little over a 3 month period.
I believe it drifts due to 2 things.
LFE
The lens cover opening/closing

Mine is ALMOST a year old.

No One has more LFE than me.

My FOCUS is were I set it almost 1 year ago.
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post #2844 of 3038
2/11/13 at 10:48am
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Originally Posted by wnielsenbb View Post

I have no problems with focus. Call support. They will replace it with a "refurbished" projector with entirely different problems.
Which way up is yours?
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Mine is ALMOST a year old.

No One has more LFE than me.

My FOCUS is were I set it almost 1 year ago.

Blimes what's up with mine then? Is yours shelf or ceiling mounted?

Can't call support because this thing came from the US (unbeknown to me as I thought I was buying from a UK Ebay seller) otherwise I would have got shot of it by now.
I've only had it for 2 months and so far the experience hasn't been what I expected.
List of problems so far:

1. Ever changing focus
2. Bad uniformity (focus and colour)
3. terrible convergence out of the box (thank god Epson included alignment)
4. Weird 2d to 3d conversion (image curved)
5. Awful shift controls
6. Blanking sometimes for no reason (but this may be related to my graphics card refresh rate)

People rave about Epsons support being second to none. Well I think I have an explanation for that.
Their support is only mirrored by their awful QC.
From Epsons point of view it is better to be slack on the QC and let less than perfect items go on the shelves of maybe 10 in every 100 and possibly only get one or two back of that 10 for replacement or repair instead of trashing 10 projectors as not everybody is a 'picky' as me and possibly wouldn't even notice the issues I do.
So I think this is Epsons strategy, why trash dodgy projectors at the QC stage when you can do that when they 'possibly' come back as faulty or for repair. So Epson just offer what seems like great support when infact it's a cover for shoddy QC .mad.gif
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post #2845 of 3038
2/11/13 at 10:56am
^

Mine is Ceiling Mounted in the Upright Position

There MUST be a WAY to get Support
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2/11/13 at 11:07am
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

^

Mine is Ceiling Mounted in the Upright Position

There MUST be a WAY to get Support

So yours is actually right way up?
For support it would mean sending back to the US unfortunately. Not really prepared to that tbh. The problems are cope-able, but I'm just a little miffed a supposed high end product has so many little problems.
It may be that putting it right way solves all these problems, but that still begs the question as to why and what Epson are doing about it, because I know I'm not the only one with these problems? It a shame really as it spoils what is otherwise a great projector.
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post #2847 of 3038
2/11/13 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by ashyt16 View Post

So yours is actually right way up?
For support it would mean sending back to the US unfortunately. Not really prepared to that tbh. The problems are cope-able, but I'm just a little miffed a supposed high end product has so many little problems.
It may be that putting it right way solves all these problems, but that still begs the question as to why and what Epson are doing about it, because I know I'm not the only one with these problems? It a shame really as it spoils what is otherwise a great projector.

I only heard about this problem one year ago.

That is why I bought a right side up mount..

It has been a year since I heard anyone with the problem.

I USED the LCDA230C Mount from CHIEF Mfg

http://www.chiefmfg.com/Products/LCDA230C

You can SEE IT in this PICTURE


Edited by drhankz - 2/11/13 at 11:31am
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2/11/13 at 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by ashyt16 View Post

Which way up is yours?
Blimes what's up with mine then? Is yours shelf or ceiling mounted?

Can't call support because this thing came from the US (unbeknown to me as I thought I was buying from a UK Ebay seller) otherwise I would have got shot of it by now.
I've only had it for 2 months and so far the experience hasn't been what I expected.
List of problems so far:

1. Ever changing focus
2. Bad uniformity (focus and colour)
3. terrible convergence out of the box (thank god Epson included alignment)
4. Weird 2d to 3d conversion (image curved)
5. Awful shift controls
6. Blanking sometimes for no reason (but this may be related to my graphics card refresh rate)

People rave about Epsons support being second to none. Well I think I have an explanation for that.
Their support is only mirrored by their awful QC.
From Epsons point of view it is better to be slack on the QC and let less than perfect items go on the shelves of maybe 10 in every 100 and possibly only get one or two back of that 10 for replacement or repair instead of trashing 10 projectors as not everybody is a 'picky' as me and possibly wouldn't even notice the issues I do.
So I think this is Epsons strategy, why trash dodgy projectors at the QC stage when you can do that when they 'possibly' come back as faulty or for repair. So Epson just offer what seems like great support when infact it's a cover for shoddy QC .mad.gif

Completely agree, ashyt. I posted this on another thread last week:

"I think Epson channel their resources into customer service rather than quality control. In some ways it's a more sensible business model because in all likelihood only 1 or 2 in 100 customers actually rattle the cage. The discerning 1% therefore gets all the attention and I am sure the company uses sophisticated metrics to calculate the potential for business lost and associated risk. I have been dealing with Epson over a number of bad 8700UBs and they have been extremely helpful and eventually upgraded my unit. I have heard that some of the other PJ manufacturers are not so accommodating with warranties/returns, so it's worth keeping that in mind."
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2/11/13 at 1:36pm
Making high end stuff in China is just stupid. Heck, they can't even make decent shirts.
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2/11/13 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

I only heard about this problem one year ago.

That is why I bought a right side up mount..

It has been a year since I heard anyone with the problem.

I USED the LCDA230C Mount from CHIEF Mfg

http://www.chiefmfg.com/Products/LCDA230C

You can SEE IT in this PICTURE


I think my next step is to flip it round then. By the way awesome home theatre if that's dedicated. Wish I had that setup!
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