Official Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 5010 / 6010 thread - Page 99

The 3D IR emitters only show up in 3D Mode when you are PLAYING a 3D Movie.

There are NINE 3D IR emitters on the FRONT Right Side.

THERE ARE VISIBLE

Haven't tried 3d yet, waiting for my glasses to arrive. But my projector is ceiling mounted. Do you need to have the separate emitter or is there enough bounce back from the screen to make the glasses work?

Peter

Haven't tried 3d yet, waiting for my glasses to arrive. But my projector is ceiling mounted. Do you need to have the separate emitter or is there enough bounce back from the screen to make the glasses work?

Peter

Exactly what I'm looking for. The lights are the emitters that sync the 3D glasses and not an "indicator" light that the projector is in 3D mode. As Pankov suggested, if you point a digital camera or camera phone at the front of the projector while in 3D mode, you "should" see the emitters glowing in the camera's display. The CCD panels in digital cameras are sensitive to the infrared spectrum which allows them to "see" the glow of infrared LED's (remotes, Wii emitters, 3D emitters, etc). Unfortunately, it appears that for whatever reason, my emitters are not illuminating even when the projector is in 3D mode.

I'm tempted to buy the external emitter and see if it turns on when configured to do so and a 3D movie is playing. I'd hate to spend the ~$70 if I don't have to, though. It would be an interesting test which raises the question of whether or not that is a better solution (should it work) than possibly having to ship the projector back to epson, incurring the shipping/insurance cost and then possibly getting a refurb unit back with an unknown history.... Hmmmm.....

Maybe updating the firmware might kick the 3d transmitter into life.

Page 14 of the manual,

Use the optional external 3D emitter if you cannot view the 3D image normally or if the
projector is located more than 16.5 feet (5 m) from the viewing area.

yep they are barely visible by naked eye but glow bright pink through a digital camera.

So I called Epson support and spoke with with their level one guys. After explaining all the troubleshooting I've completed and them verifying the projector settings, they couldn't figure out what the problem is. Had to call back when their advanced support was available. After being put on hold a couple of times so the rep could talk with the advanced level support they are now replacing the projector with a refurbed unit. Fingers crossed that I get a good one. I'll be checking it over carefully. I love the advanced replacement and that Epson pays shipping both ways but now I'll get a refurbed unit when I paid the price for new. Ah, well...

As further troubleshooting I hooked up my blu ray player to my Panny 50GT25 plasma and 3D worked fine with the epson glasses. No issues whatsoever so it's not the player or the glasses (which I already knew).

I'll report back once I get the replacement unit up and running.

I haven't searched this whole thread, so sorry if this has been discussed already.

I'm having strange color fluctuations with the iris set to "normal" and "high speed". When the iris engages there's a quick flash of blue or red or green. I can see it in some skin tones and on some channel logos, if there's a black background. I have to really look for it, but it's there. When I have the iris set to the "off" position the effect goes away. I can definitly live with this, as long as this is a known issue.

Thanks

So what's the verdict on 5010 vs 5020 (or 6010 vs 6020 for that matter)?
Does increased contrast-ratio really make a perceptible difference?

you know...I've always been meanig to post something similar.

 

i am experiencing the same thing...I am not so sure if I see a FLASH, but for sure I see a shift in skin tones.  I am the ONLY one that see's this, my wife thinks I am crazy...but it is present. 

 

Any feedback from others is welcomed!!

Thanks for the feedback, now I know it's not just my unit. I did a more thorough search through this thread, I think there was at least one other person with this issue also. So I guess that makes at least 3....

It is more of a "shift", I'm just bad at describing stuff, thanks!

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1461784/chromatic-effects-of-dynamic-irises has a little more discussion on the effect and limitations inherent with some of the iris designs.

Cr@p. My 5010 has been working great since I got it about 8 months ago. Go to power it on tonight, and get the blinking blue light, loud fan, and the lens cover won't open.

So, from reading this thread, sounds like I have to call Epson support and get a replacement sent out? What would be the number to call? I'm in the San Francisco area.

Thanks.

I think you'll find Home Theater magazine mentioned this anomaly in their review of the 5010 last year.

I wouldn't bother with getting a replacement. Just let it cycle through. Sometimes it can last a minute or two but then the unit powers up normally. Many people on this thread have the same issue and if your 5010 is good in all other respects, I would hang on to it instead of getting into RMA hell.

well, i pulled the plug, powered it back on, let it sit there blinking for 15 minutes and it still didn't come up. I unplugged it again and will leave it that way overnight, then try again tomorrow.

So is this with ALL 5010/6010 etc....or is this a "limited" issue and I should see if I can get it "fixed" ?

Its more of a work around with the LCD tech, (Epson in this case) to boost contrast, where SXRD, (Sony/JVC) are less prone, due to the ability of that tech, to better compensate. I don't think it's a problem that can be fixed, with the exception of not using the iris.

Agreed, and from what I've read, Auto-iris is an extremely sophisticated technology and by no means expected to be perfect (or silent) on a $3.5k projector. The iris circuit reads information information several frames in advance to anticipate mechanical adjustments to the present frame. LCDs benefit most from dynamic iris technology, but 'pumping' and gamma alterations are apparently common.

I'm not sure how reading a few frames ahead would work as this would mean a delay would have to be introduced to the source somewhere along the line to accomplish this. This would likely cause the audio to desync with the video slightly.

Yes, I assume therefore it must be near-instantaneous to avoid delays (and, I guess, not by several frames as I wrote earlier). The piece I read states, "It must sample the video data stream far enough in advance to give the mechanical elements time to operate."

The delayed start up and flashing blue light is also reported as fairly common on new models 5020/6020 and their TW9100 equivalents. Epson still don't seem to know the cause. Anybody heard anything new from Epson about it?.
Edited by davestan - 3/25/13 at 4:19pm

You will see the effect of the Iris easily if you play a movie in full screen mode in mediaplayer hc.
Start the movie and immediately pause it before it starts and the screen is black. Then move the cursor to the bottom so the seek bar pops up. In fast mode you will see the seek bar darken and change colour as it appears and disappears as you move the cursor.

So I received my factory refurb unit to replace my original that was not synching with my 3D glasses. The good news is that the refurb confirmed the defect with my original unit. With a 3D signal the glasses synched right up and all was good. The downside is that after about ten minutes the projector made a "squeal" type noise and then an error message popped up on the screen saying there was a problem with the cinema filter and to call the service center. Yikes! No bueno.

I called Epson and now they're sending me another replacement since the one they sent is clearly defective. I wonder if this issue isn't the reason why it was returned by someone in the first place. Its rather odd that they wouldn't have confirmed the issue and repaired it. I can clear the error and the image displays but every time a new signal is sent to the projector it goes through some sort of hiccup, squeals and throws the error. It's easily repeatable.

It appears I've stepped onto the refurb roller coaster. I hope I can get a good unit and am able to get off the ride soon.

Yep good luck...eventually you might get lucky.

 

I had an issue and fought for over 4 months and got 8 bad units before the finally sent me a good one....just keep up the fight and don't give in.

This is exactly why the Epson warranty isnt worth the paper its written on. Its ridiculous. Post your trouble in the Epson problem thread. We might get something done about it.