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post #3121 of 3332
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Originally Posted by nando820 View Post

Ok probably a stupid question but I am trying to play a 3D mkv file and while the audio sounds fine, the video is shown side by side. Is there a way to fix this? I keep pressing the 3D button on the remote but all it does is simulate 3d on the split screen

Side by Side is a Legitimate format.

Unfortunately - you have to go into the setup and force the PJ to Handle it Properly
post #3122 of 3332
Could someone post a link for Epson tw9000/5010/6010 firmware 1.09 so i (we) can download it or sen it to me with mail, please PM me..

best regards Tomas
post #3123 of 3332
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Originally Posted by nando820 View Post

Ok probably a stupid question but I am trying to play a 3D mkv file and while the audio sounds fine, the video is shown side by side. Is there a way to fix this? I keep pressing the 3D button on the remote but all it does is simulate 3d on the split screen
I use the user button to make a shortcut to the 3d format setting, so I can switch easily between the formats.
post #3124 of 3332
Quick question, for those with big rooms, do you have any problem with the glasses working from a distance? If so, what is your distance? According to the manual 16.5 ft is the furthest they work from the screen, although I think a few people have larger rooms without issue. I know they have the IR extender, but I'd rather not go this route as then I will have a wire running from the back to the front of the screen? which I suspect would look tacky? My room is 32 feet deep with seating all the way to the back, so if any of you have a big room or the IR extender, what has your experience been.
post #3125 of 3332
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Originally Posted by d james View Post

Quick question, for those with big rooms, do you have any problem with the glasses working from a distance? If so, what is your distance? According to the manual 16.5 ft is the furthest they work from the screen, although I think a few people have larger rooms without issue. I know they have the IR extender, but I'd rather not go this route as then I will have a wire running from the back to the front of the screen? which I suspect would look tacky? My room is 32 feet deep with seating all the way to the back, so if any of you have a big room or the IR extender, what has your experience been.
Glasses interact with the projector and not the screen. The IR sync is between projector and glasses, so if you are sitting near the projector, you will be fine.
post #3126 of 3332
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Originally Posted by xplorar View Post

Glasses interact with the projector and not the screen. The IR sync is between projector and glasses, so if you are sitting near the projector, you will be fine.

Its true that the glasses interact with the projector but not true that simply being near the projector is all the matters. The reason the distance from the screen is relevant is that the IR signal from the projector needs to bounce off the screen and walls to be reflected back to the glasses. IR is line of sight. It's no different than pointing an IR remote away from your TV and expecting it to work. It won't. This "IR blaster" effect is why the projector has an array of IR LEDs to send out the signal. Its also why newer models have switched to RF for synching with the glasses. In that case actual distance between the projector and glasses is what is relevant.

All that being said, my projector is ceiling mounted at about 9' above the seating area and 17' from the screen. I have no issues. Since the original question was about 32' from the screen I would suspect the IR extender might be necessary. Depending on the width of his room, color of the walls and height of the ceiling, he may not get enough reflection for the glasses to pick up.
post #3127 of 3332
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Originally Posted by xplorar View Post

Glasses interact with the projector and not the screen. The IR sync is between projector and glasses, so if you are sitting near the projector, you will be fine.

WRONG
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Originally Posted by SGinAZ View Post

Its true that the glasses interact with the projector but not true that simply being near the projector is all the matters. The reason the distance from the screen is relevant is that the IR signal from the projector needs to bounce off the screen and walls to be reflected back to the glasses. IR is line of sight.

SGinAZ Has it CORRECTLY.

I use an IR to RF Converter - that way there is NO LINE OF SIGHT PROBLEM.

With RF - it is between the PJ and Glasses
post #3128 of 3332
Thanks for your help guys, sounds like the ir to rf converter would be best as then I wouldn't have to worry and I imagine there are a few brands that would still work with the converter. Drhankz, which converter and glasses are you using? By the way my room is 24 wide and ceiling, floor are black, and wall have black curtains though out. this might be a problem with the regular IR
post #3129 of 3332
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Originally Posted by d james View Post

Thanks for your help guys, sounds like the ir to rf converter would be best as then I wouldn't have to worry and I imagine there are a few brands that would still work with the converter. Drhankz, which converter and glasses are you using? By the way my room is 24 wide and ceiling, floor are black, and wall have black curtains though out. this might be a problem with the regular IR

I started with Monster Glasses which came with the IR to RF converter.

I did not like the Monster Glasses and switched to Optoma 3D-RF Glasses available
from Amazon. They work great both with the Converter and the PJ. I have enclosed
a Picture of my IR to RF Converter on the side of the PJ. I assume Optoma should
have a Converter as well but I never checked.

post #3130 of 3332
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

I started with Monster Glasses which came with the IR to RF converter.

I did not like the Monster Glasses and switched to Optoma 3D-RF Glasses available
from Amazon. They work great both with the Converter and the PJ. I have enclosed
a Picture of my IR to RF Converter on the side of the PJ. I assume Optoma should
have a Converter as well but I never checked.

FOUND IT --- Optoma Technology BG-BC100 3D RF Emitter also on Amazon.

post #3131 of 3332
Sweet, thanks drhankz for going out of your way to post a pic and find that converter. Looks like I will have to go this route. Those 5010s are so cheap now I'd hate to pass them up and cant justify 2600 for the new one just for my upgrade to 3d.
post #3132 of 3332
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Originally Posted by d james View Post

Sweet, thanks drhankz for going out of your way to post a pic and find that converter. Looks like I will have to go this route. Those 5010s are so cheap now I'd hate to pass them up and cant justify 2600 for the new one just for my upgrade to 3d.

I don't know what a 2600 is but I AM SUPER HAPPY
with the 5010 and will be buying a 5020 for my new place.
post #3133 of 3332
Oh sorry, I was referring to the 5020's price point of 2600 dollars. I currently have the Epson 6500 which is obviously a bit old now, but am quite satisfied with it except that it does not do 3D. So for me I can't justify spending the extra money unless its going to be a whole lot better, which I'm still researching. The 5010 can be had for 1000 bucks cheaper which is a big chunk of change. I may end up waiting and see what new Epson projectors they show at CES in September. I am curious though, how come you are upgrading to the 5020, from what I can tell doesn't look like a huge difference between the two?
post #3134 of 3332
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Originally Posted by d james View Post

I am curious though, how come you are upgrading to the 5020, from what I can tell doesn't look like a huge difference between the two?

Only because I am selling the HOME and the PJ stays here.

Therefore I need a NEW one for the NEW Home.

I would buy the 5020 unless epson announces something new at CEDIA.

I won't be moving until November so I have time to see what is announced
at CEDIA.
post #3135 of 3332
Sounds like a great reason to me, this will probably help sell the house too. If I'm not mistaken, I thought I saw a picture of a very nice dedicated theater that you have? Are you planning on building another, even better than the last?
post #3136 of 3332
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Originally Posted by d james View Post

Sounds like a great reason to me, this will probably help sell the house too. If I'm not mistaken, I thought I saw a picture of a very nice dedicated theater that you have? Are you planning on building another, even better than the last?

Yes - The House is already sold - waiting for the BANK OK and Closing.

Yes I have posted a picture before.

YES - BUT - No were near as elaborate as the current theater.
post #3137 of 3332
elite screens Cinewhite versus CineGrey 5D versus AirBright 3D2 for Epson 5010

Hi all,

am so confused. I have a sub 1K budget for a 135 diag screen. 20x12' room, 2 levels of seating. Epson 5010 PJ. am looking for a adequate 2D AND (active) 3D screen. the room is totally light controlled.

Cinewhite
http://www.elitescreens.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46&catid=7&Itemid=23&lang=en
$412

AirBright 3D2
http://www.elitescreens.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1702%3Aairbright-3d&catid=7%3Ascreen-material&Itemid=23&lang=en
$600

CineGrey 5D - there newest option, 1.5 gain, but i think narrow cone
http://www.elitescreens.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1815&catid=7&Itemid=23&lang=en
$850

what do you guys think? or do you suggest another brand? Please keep in my budget.

please help!
post #3138 of 3332
Those second two are for passive 3D. For active any screen will do but some gain helps. I would recommend their powergain 1.8 screen material myself.

good review here:
http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/manufactured-screens/9280-elite-screens-silver-frame-screen-review.html
post #3139 of 3332
Just picked this up last week:

I copied the calibration settings used in the projector central review write up.

3D on this is amazing! I compared this to my Panasonic TC-P65ST60 's 3D (which is amazing). Both are using an OPPO player. The Panasonic 3D glasses work with the Epson projector ! the Epson glasses allow a bit more light to pass through than the Panasonic (but not that much - but in a side by side comparison the additional light may give a bit more detail).

Out of the box the player is way better than my previous projector the Panasonic PT-AE3000U - the blacks are darker, the colors are vivid (due to the increased light output) the image jumps off of my Vutec Silverstar screen.

Notes:
I calibrated the projector in THX mode using Normal power settings and everything looked great
When I switched over to Econ mode the picture has more of a 'green hue'

The fan in eco mode is dead quiet, but the fan in normal mode is a bit distracting when watching a movie / tv show with a lot of quiet scenes.

Does anyone have settings that they used in econ mode to adjust for this greenish push?
post #3140 of 3332
I have been researching the 5010 model, put it to the top of my choice list in fact and I came across something interesting, apparently you can use a Light Power Filter (LPE) which is a lens filter that enhances the image quality and increases lumen output.

Now I am curious about it, has anyone tried one of the lenses?

Do they work?
post #3141 of 3332
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Socio View Post

I have been researching the 5010 model, put it to the top of my choice list in fact and I came across something interesting, apparently you can use a Light Power Filter (LPE) which is a lens filter that enhances the image quality and increases lumen output.

Now I am curious about it, has anyone tried one of the lenses?

Do they work?
The filter is real but hard to obtain.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1442399/epson-lpe-filter-over-1600-color-correct-lumens-out-of-the-5010-5020-6010-6020-a-detailed-review
post #3142 of 3332

Thanks for the link sounds like it would be worth the effort to locate one an another reason for me to go with the 5010.
post #3143 of 3332
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Originally Posted by Socio View Post

Thanks for the link sounds like it would be worth the effort to locate one an another reason for me to go with the 5010.

NOBODY is using them.

Stop wasting your money.

The 5010 and now 5020 are PERFECT without any LPE filter.
post #3144 of 3332
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

I started with Monster Glasses which came with the IR to RF converter.

I did not like the Monster Glasses and switched to Optoma 3D-RF Glasses available
from Amazon. They work great both with the Converter and the PJ. I have enclosed
a Picture of my IR to RF Converter on the side of the PJ. I assume Optoma should
have a Converter as well but I never checked.


How does that connect to the 5010? The Epson doesn't have the normal connector for rf emitters on the back as far as I can tell
post #3145 of 3332
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Originally Posted by Robert Clark View Post

How does that connect to the 5010? The Epson doesn't have the normal connector for rf emitters on the back as far as I can tell

There is an IR Receiver that attaches to the FRONT of the PJ in front of the IR TRANSMITTERS.

It is a TWO piece converter - IR Receiver and RF Transmitter.

There is a short USB Cable that connect the two pieces.
post #3146 of 3332
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

NOBODY is using them.

Stop wasting your money.

The 5010 and now 5020 are PERFECT without any LPE filter.

Sorry,
These projectors are NOT perfect with, or without the filter.
post #3147 of 3332
No they are not perfect but they do project amazing images.
Also I agree the filter is a waste of time for most. for one the high fan noise would annoy me. I use economy mode and have a grey screen and still find using any mode other than cinema and natural in a darkened room is too bright.
The filter would only be useful in lit rooms and would be pointless for movie viewing as there would be that much spurious light bouncing around the room it would ruin the image.
post #3148 of 3332
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Originally Posted by ashyt16 View Post

No they are not perfect but they do project amazing images.
Also I agree the filter is a waste of time for most. for one the high fan noise would annoy me. I use economy mode and have a grey screen and still find using any mode other than cinema and natural in a darkened room is too bright.
The filter would only be useful in lit rooms and would be pointless for movie viewing as there would be that much spurious light bouncing around the room it would ruin the image.

Fan noise is the main reason I am going to shelf mount mine several feet behind the seating area along with some sound dampening panels around the shelf to reduce the fan noise to a minimum.

Also would you want the extra lumens gained from a filter for viewing 3D?
post #3149 of 3332
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Originally Posted by ashyt16 View Post

No they are not perfect but they do project amazing images.
Also I agree the filter is a waste of time for most. for one the high fan noise would annoy me. I use economy mode and have a grey screen and still find using any mode other than cinema and natural in a darkened room is too bright.
The filter would only be useful in lit rooms and would be pointless for movie viewing as there would be that much spurious light bouncing around the room it would ruin the image.
I agree,
The fan can get quite loud.
post #3150 of 3332
If you have recently returned a epson for a new one, check your card statement. Epson randomly billed me $2,300, even though the projector was returned 4 months ago. I called them and they said it was a billing error with their database, and that other customers were effected. They are correcting it, but it is a lot of money to just have disappear.
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