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post #331 of 3333
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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post

ECO mode should be fine as long as you have no ambient light.
Normal mode is needed to over come ambient light reflection/scatter or if you have a screen larger than 130" and a long throw distance.

Just be warned that you are forced to use Normal mode for 3D, which is needed to overcome the tint of the 3D glasses. I believe all projectors switch to Normal/high power mode for 3D.

Thx all....I think I can deal with it...and for most of my viewing (2D) Eco mode should be fine. I am fairly handy and am early in my construction phase, could I just build a ventilated box around the projector and place some acoustical foam inside...as long as it is properly ventilated I shouldn't have any heat issues, should I? This actually might be more architecturally pleasing as well...thoughts?

-Chris
post #332 of 3333
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

Thanks...

It's still in BETA, there is a lens shift bug that is adding +5 inches to some projectors, it only seems to do it on projectors with around 30-40 inches of lens shift though, so it doesn't apply to the Epson. Other than that bug, most only minor issues, a new update will be coming soon enough, pretty busy at my regular job though. It works a little easier in Firefox than IE due to the controls.

I'm still loving your calculator, coderguy!

In case you're looking for feature requests... it would be a nice bonus if it was possible to have a unique URL to whatever settings you happen to have configured. Sort of a "Email this" type of thing, and whoever clicked the link would see the exact settings with all of the variables that were configured.
post #333 of 3333
My lumens numbers are averages of multiple reviewers, instead of being based on a single reviewers numbers, so it would not be possible to refer to where I got the numbers from. I also average a few experts settings in from the forums, but those are only weighted half as much as reviewers measurements.

You will notice I often round off the lumens measurements to the 100th place or 25th place, that is because it depends how many measurements I have averaged. Generally speaking, the 25th place are slightly more accurate than the 100th placed ones, but not always. I do this by entering numbers into an Excel spreadsheet for each reviewer, then I average and round them off, and then enter them into the calculator.
post #334 of 3333
New Elite Projector Calculator


very helpful-nice job and thanks
post #335 of 3333
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

My lumens numbers are averages of multiple reviewers, instead of being based on a single reviewers numbers, so it would not be possible to refer to where I got the numbers from. I also average a few experts settings in from the forums, but those are only weighted half as much as reviewers measurements.

You will notice I often round off the lumens measurements to the 100th place or 25th place, that is because it depends how many measurements I have averaged. Generally speaking, the 25th place are slightly more accurate than the 100th placed ones, but not always. I do this by entering numbers into an Excel spreadsheet for each reviewer, then I average and round them off, and then enter them into the calculator.

I didn't do a good job explaining my feature request... let me try again

Basically, if I go to your calculator page, I then choose a specific projector (such as the Epson 5010), then adjust the distance that the projector will be from the screen, the screen size, the screen gain, and so on. Once I have that all tweaked, it would awesome to be able to have a URL that, when clicked at some point in the future, would take me back to your calculator with those same exact settings in place already. For example, I may be discussing details with a buddy, and I want him to be able to see exactly what I've come up with already, and then he could tweak some settings and email me a new URL back.
post #336 of 3333
Yah, like a user profile that can save settings, it is possible but with cookie issues and stuff I'd probably have to implement a downloadable XML file that you'd save manually, or I could allow people to REGISTER and sign up and save their settings on the server. Eventually I most likely will let users create their own accounts and sign in, and store all kinds of info, but for now I'm taking it one step at a time.

That is a good idea, it's already been in the think tank for a while...

I have had to put off future updates for a month or two due to my regular job, when I first programmed the calculator I got pretty behind at my work...
post #337 of 3333
I read that the 5010 does not have anamorphic lens support. How would I view a 2.35:1 Blu-Ray in it's native aspect ration on a 2.35:1 formatted screen?
post #338 of 3333
It is only really a factor if you will be watching both 16:9 and 2.35 content on the same 2.35 screen.

You over-shoot the black bars, but assuming it doesn't have the pixel shift feature like a Mits hc4000, there are still ways to do it, you can buy an external scaler or use an HTPC with a motorized screen, and then you can have true 16:9 and 2.35.

There are a few other ways to do it as well.
post #339 of 3333
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Originally Posted by Warrior_Poet View Post

I read that the 5010 does not have anamorphic lens support. How would I view a 2.35:1 Blu-Ray in it's native aspect ration on a 2.35:1 formatted screen?

You can still watch 2.35:1 with the 5010 with or without an Anamorphic Lens, without it you can use the zoom method where you just zoom the projector out to fill the screen, not very handy with a manual zoom though or if you have an anamorphic lens and the 5010 will not vertically stretch the picture for you you would need a reciever or video processor to stretch the picture.

John
post #340 of 3333
I have a 5010 which is replacing an Epson powerlite 800. The 800 filled my 133" screen perfectly top to bottom and full width. With the 5010 when the width is fully filled the vertical has 3 extra inches spilling over edges of the screen. Can the aspect be different or do I have something set wrong?

VB1
post #341 of 3333
I have the 5010 on a 133" da-lite and my geometry is perfect.Make sure you do not have overscan on.
post #342 of 3333
Are you watching 2.35 material? Are driving it from a PC?
post #343 of 3333
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Originally Posted by studlygoorite View Post

You can still watch 2.35:1 with the 5010 with or without an Anamorphic Lens, without it you can use the zoom method where you just zoom the projector out to fill the screen, not very handy with a manual zoom though or if you have an anamorphic lens and the 5010 will not vertically stretch the picture for you you would need a reciever or video processor to stretch the picture.

John

Thanks. I think I've settled on getting a 135" 16:9 screen and watching 2.35:1 content on it with bars on the top and bottom ( I won't need anything special zooming or lens for that setup right?).

Has anyone picked up the 5010e with WirelessHD? How well does it work?
post #344 of 3333
Hi...

I have the 5010e (in Europe EH-TW 9000 W)....the wireless HD works well within a range of approx. 15 feet...
The 5010 supports anamorphic lenses...in the menu, you can activate the anamorphic mode os horizontal squeeze in the first submenu of the main menu (in German "Bild", in English "Signal" (?)). The beamer has screws at the bottom to mount an anamorphic lens...(see manual)...As the 5010 has no motorized lens and therefore no lens memory, the use of an anamorphic lens is a bit uncomfortable...
Have a happy New Year....
Best wishes from good old Germany...
Michael
post #345 of 3333
I've got a question, and it could go in any number of places since it is about the Epson 5010, HTPCs, Blu-Ray, and 3d...but I'm going to try here first.

Is it possible to play true Blu-Ray framepacked 3d using an HTPC and an Epson 5010?

I'm fairly certain that it is easy to do SBS 3d, but I'm interested in getting the full resolution to the projector.

Thanks.
-Kevin
post #346 of 3333
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Originally Posted by Carlos View Post

Are you watching 2.35 material? Are driving it from a PC?

I am using directv, Blu-ray DVD and computer all with the same result. It is standard viewing material. I haven't checked the overscan yet.

Vb1
post #347 of 3333
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Originally Posted by KevinG View Post

I've got a question, and it could go in any number of places since it is about the Epson 5010, HTPCs, Blu-Ray, and 3d...but I'm going to try here first.

Is it possible to play true Blu-Ray framepacked 3d using an HTPC and an Epson 5010?

I'm fairly certain that it is easy to do SBS 3d, but I'm interested in getting the full resolution to the projector.

Thanks.
-Kevin

Yes. this is certainly no problem. What you need is a PC with a graphics adapter with HDMI 1.4a-Port (nearly all actual graphics adapter have). With a NVidia graphics card and the included 3dVision-Driver you have less problems than with ati. You need a bluray-disc drive and a software capable of playing 3D-Blurays...at the moment, PowerDVD 10 / 11 works best...
and finally, you need a tv-set or beamer with HDMI-1.4a-Port capable of playing 3d-content...thats it...

Michael
post #348 of 3333
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Originally Posted by Divedoc View Post

Yes. this is certainly no problem. What you need is a PC with a graphics adapter with HDMI 1.4a-Port (nearly all actual graphics adapter have). With a NVidia graphics card and the included 3dVision-Driver you have less problems than with ati. You need a bluray-disc drive and a software capable of playing 3D-Blurays...at the moment, PowerDVD 10 / 11 works best...
and finally, you need a tv-set or beamer with HDMI-1.4a-Port capable of playing 3d-content...thats it...

Michael

Thank you for the clear, concise answer. I was seeing things like a requirement for NVidia's 3d glasses, etc...glad to know that it is just a driver issue.
post #349 of 3333
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Originally Posted by vb1 View Post

I am using directv, Blu-ray DVD and computer all with the same result. It is standard viewing material. I haven't checked the overscan yet.

Vb1

What does it look like with the 5010 test pattern on the screen?
Is it square/rectangular or trapezoid?
post #350 of 3333
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Originally Posted by Warrior_Poet View Post

I read that the 5010 does not have anamorphic lens support. How would I view a 2.35:1 Blu-Ray in it's native aspect ration on a 2.35:1 formatted screen?

The Oppo 93 BluRay player will do the vertical stretch in 3D. I'm using one with my Acer H9500BD, scope screen and UH380 lens. It works great and the least expensive way to do this I think, maybe HTPC will but not sure, other issues there too.

A 2.40 screen and anamorphic lens is the way to go for 3D IMO, it takes 3D to a whole 'nother level, especially if you sit close to the screen. Its a big investment but worth it if you can afford it, you won't be sorry.
post #351 of 3333
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Originally Posted by KevinG View Post

Thank you for the clear, concise answer. I was seeing things like a requirement for NVidia's 3d glasses, etc...glad to know that it is just a driver issue.

KevinG. If you already have a recent Ati card you may not have to upgrade to Nvidia. I have the Ati 5770 (which according to Ati is not supposed to play 3D) but is running 3D great.

Just make sure you have latest drivers;hdmi 1.4 cable. I use PowerDVD 11 and Anydvd.

Also, my 3d glasses from my dad's Panasonic 3d plasma also work on the 5010 . Here's a link to Epson 3d glasses compatibility list:

link
post #352 of 3333
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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post

What does it look like with the 5010 test pattern on the screen?
Is it square/rectangular or trapezoid?

The pattern is rectangular with a straight line at the top as well as straight lines on each screen edge vertically but with the bottom line off the screen by about 3 inches. It appears to be in the projector as when I bring up a blank input the message that says not compatible is off the screen. Overscan was on auto now off but no change.

Vb1
post #353 of 3333
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Originally Posted by Warrior_Poet View Post

Thanks. I think I've settled on getting a 135" 16:9 screen and watching 2.35:1 content on it with bars on the top and bottom ( I won't need anything special zooming or lens for that setup right?).
Has anyone picked up the 5010e with WirelessHD? How well does it work?

Correct
post #354 of 3333
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Originally Posted by vb1 View Post

The pattern is rectangular with a straight line at the top as well as straight lines on each screen edge vertically but with the bottom line off the screen by about 3 inches. It appears to be in the projector as when I bring up a blank input the message that says not compatible is off the screen. Overscan was on auto now off but no change.

Vb1

Is your screen at a 90 degree angle with the floor and ceiling?
post #355 of 3333
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Originally Posted by studlygoorite View Post

Is your screen at a 90 degree angle with the floor and ceiling?

I'm not sure what you mean but my screen is motorized and hangs straight down. The projector is centered horizontaly and is lined up with the upper third vertically with not a lot of keystone adjustment.

Vb1
post #356 of 3333
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Originally Posted by vb1 View Post

The projector is centered horizontaly and is lined up with the upper third vertically with not a lot of keystone adjustment.

If you used keystone adjustment at all, that sounds like your problem. You don't want to use that.
post #357 of 3333
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Originally Posted by vb1 View Post

I'm not sure what you mean but my screen is motorized and hangs straight down. The projector is centered horizontaly and is lined up with the upper third vertically with not a lot of keystone adjustment.

Vb1

I had this happen but I believe it was one side only on another projector, I was stumped for quite a while but found that the wall my fixed screen was on was not parallel to my projector and I had to disconnect the screen at one end and have it 2" away from the wall and then my picture filled the screen perfectly. Thought maybe it was something like this but I guess not. If your projector is centered correctly and the screen hangs down, I am surprised that you have to use the keystone at all, maybe this is your problem, I would try adjusting the keystone and make sure the projector is not pointing up or down but straight/horizontally at the screen.

Good Luck
post #358 of 3333
I just installed the 5010 (106" screen, PJ mounted appox 11.5 feet (where old one was)). Got the picture lined up on screen even and fully hitting the top and the bottom of the screen. I was able to line it up the sides perfectly straight with no keystone. However, the picture extends 1.4 inches over the screen on each side (its into the black border, but even/same 1 1/4 " from top to bottom and on each side).

How do I adjust the sides in without losing the height or screwing up the straight sides?


Thanks
post #359 of 3333
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Originally Posted by sbm911 View Post

... However, the picture extends 1.4 inches over the screen on each side (its into the black border, but even/same 1 1/4 " from top to bottom and on each side).

I'm not sure what you mean by "even/same 1 1/4 " from top to bottom and on each side".

Are you saying that the tops and bottoms overscan by 1.25" and the sides overscan by 1.40" instead of 1.25" all the way around? Of course, if you zoom in a little so the sides aren't overscanning into the mask at all then you would only be 0.15" into the mask on the top and bottom. Is that so bad? Or am I misunderstanding you?
post #360 of 3333
OK, question about screen size - if I get a 5010 or 6010, and mount it as far back as possible, the lens will be about 12.5 feet from the screen. My back row of seating will be on the back wall, so I figure the eyes of the people will be about 13' from the screen.

Would going with a 120" diagonal screen be too large? I'll also possibly have a closer row of seating, and I figure they'll be about 9-10' from the screen.

Based on a couple different calculators, it seems that the 5010 can fill up a 120" screen from 12.5 feet away. But I don't want it to be uncomfortable for people to actually watch stuff on it.
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