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post #961 of 3088
OK, so I setup my 5010 today, mounted on the ceiling inverted. Picture actually looks pretty dang good... I can see some red and green edges on large white text from pixel convergence, but it's not noticeable from more than a few feet away. I have an Oppo 93, and in the bouncing Oppo screensaver, I get some purple-colored smearing across the letters as it moves across the screen, again only really noticable close to the screen. This projector has WAY deeper black levels than my Optoma HD20, I guess after calibrating this Epson will be very satisfactory.

One small issue: When I size the image onto my 16x9 projector screen, and align the side edges of the image even with the edges of the white screen, the vertical image is about 1.5" taller than the height of my screen, so the image runs into the black border top and bottom. Weird because my Optoma image fit the screen perfectly. Is there anything I can do, perhaps in the advance settings of the projector, to correct that at all? I need to shrink the height of the image without making it narrower.
post #962 of 3088
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Originally Posted by FreyTheater View Post

Man, that sucks - I just bought my 5010 on February 7th... But, I didn't recieve it until the 10th - wonder if I could still get the discount?

EDIT: Nope. just checked the purchase policy of the vendor - they don't do any price protection.

I'm in the exact same position. I bought mine February 7th, too, and they explicitly state no price protection. Oh well. Can't win them all. It's less than 4% of the purchase price, which makes the $100 feel like less.
post #963 of 3088
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Originally Posted by FreyTheater View Post

OK, so I setup my 5010 today, mounted on the ceiling inverted. Picture actually looks pretty dang good... I can see some red and green edges on large white text from pixel convergence, but it's not noticeable from more than a few feet away. I have an Oppo 93, and in the bouncing Oppo screensaver, I get some purple-colored smearing across the letters as it moves across the screen, again only really noticable close to the screen. This projector has WAY deeper black levels than my Optoma HD20, I guess after calibrating this Epson will be very satisfactory.

One small issue: When I size the image onto my 16x9 projector screen, and align the side edges of the image even with the edges of the white screen, the vertical image is about 1.5" taller than the height of my screen, so the image runs into the black border top and bottom. Weird because my Optoma image fit the screen perfectly. Is there anything I can do, perhaps in the advance settings of the projector, to correct that at all? I need to shrink the height of the image without making it narrower.

What is your throw distance?
post #964 of 3088
Ok, lets spice this up

Please select the PJ you actually own and the poll will allow you to vote only once, so choose wisely

Spread this thread and lets see which PJ wins

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1393704
post #965 of 3088
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Originally Posted by icrf View Post

I'm in the exact same position. I bought mine February 7th, too, and they explicitly state no price protection. Oh well. Can't win them all. It's less than 4% of the purchase price, which makes the $100 feel like less.

Yeah, but that equates to at least another pair of 3D glasses, or 3-4 3D Blu-rays...


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Originally Posted by ozer19 View Post

What is your throw distance?

Just shy of 14 feet.
post #966 of 3088
My 5010 is on its way via air mail, but I just have 1 question before I actually set it up:
Is it okay to do a rough calibration (color mode, auto iris off, convergence, etc.) right out of the box or is there a "breaking in" period first for the 5010 (i.e. 100 hours of use) before I can even do any calibration at all?
post #967 of 3088
I got the 3010 yesterday and although the 3D looked good, I watched a bit of Toy Story 3 among others and it looked pretty impressive for the most part however I started getting nausea after five minutes which got progressively worse after that. I'm not sure if it's specifically the 3010 that's causing this or just the effect of using shutter glasses, I do suffer from motion sickness in general so perhaps that's related some how, I'm not sure. I've never used shutter glasses extensively before so I can't make a comparison.

In any case I've decided to return the unit to my local store for an exchange and will probably get the 5010 or 6010, I don't care about the 3D though I'm getting it for the 2D performance only and hopefully it will outperform my Mits hc3800 it's replacing. I did do a short comparison in 2D between the Mits hc3800 and Epson 3010 and thought the Mits was better, it was sharper with better colour, the contrast may have been the same or better but it was too hard to tell with Epson being much brighter, I felt that the Mits had a better overall image though. Anyway fingers crossed the 5010 works for me because I'm running out of ideas and money.
post #968 of 3088
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Originally Posted by nirvy111 View Post

In any case I've decided to return the unit to my local store for an exchange and will probably get the 5010 or 6010, I don't care about the 3D though I'm getting it for the 2D performance.

Yes if you are one of the few that get effected by 3D - you
should just enjoy the 2D performance. All 3D PJs will have
the same effect on you. My last Significant Other did not get
sick from 3D but could not see the 3D effect because of lasik
eye surgery.
post #969 of 3088
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Originally Posted by rexdragon View Post

My 5010 is on its way via air mail, but I just have 1 question before I actually set it up:
Is it okay to do a rough calibration (color mode, auto iris off, convergence, etc.) right out of the box or is there a "breaking in" period first for the 5010 (i.e. 100 hours of use) before I can even do any calibration at all?

You can calibrate whenever you want but keep in mind that the projector settings (especially color) will drift with age especially the first couple hundred hours. Usually Epson projectors aren't too bad right out of the box. If you calibrate your projector right away, consider it a training exercise as you'll need to do it again in another couple months or so if you want the best picture.
post #970 of 3088
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

Yes if you are one of the few that get effected by 3D - you
should just enjoy the 2D performance. All 3D PJs will have
the same effect on you. My last Significant Other did not get
sick from 3D but could not see the 3D effect because of lasik
eye surgery.

Try for short periods also try the 2d>3d conversion on the projector it is not as 3D as the real 3D. Sometimes people take a little time to adjust to it and work there way up to a whole movie.
post #971 of 3088
Thread Starter 
I thought that I'd just post a note that my 5010 has been working flawlessly & the picture is sharper than a kasumi knife.
post #972 of 3088
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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post

I thought that I'd just post a note that my 5010 has been working flawlessly & the picture is sharper than a kasumi knife.

Is this your 1st one or a Newer One.
post #973 of 3088
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

Is this your 1st one or a Newer One.

My original unit I purchased on 12/1/2011.

Had a bad bulb around 100 hours (Projector lamp led flashing red).
Bulb replaced under warranty several weeks ago.
post #974 of 3088
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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post

My original unit I purchased on 12/1/2011.

Had a bad bulb around 100 hours (Projector lamp led flashing red).
Bulb replaced under warranty several weeks ago.

GOOD INFO - Bulbs don't change the quality of the PJ.

I have had numerous bulbs in my SONY PJ over the years
and it is still 100% OK. I am ordering a 5010 to get 3D.
post #975 of 3088
Enjoying the 6010 very much. I have noticed as some, that their seems to be some blurring/bloomin of pixels, below the bottom half of the screen. 16' throw 126" vutec bright white screen, upside down ceiling mount. Not really affecting the pq from 14', and the 3D has been great, with very little ghosting and plenty bright allowing for some ambient light in normal, (eco) living room mode.

One thing that bugs however is the cheapness feel of the lens shift wheels. The verticle shift tends to slowly drift down after it's been set. I wish they would've made the adjustments a little more robust/firm.
post #976 of 3088
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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

Enjoying the 6010 very much. I have noticed as some, that their seems to be some blurring/bloomin of pixels, below the bottom half of the screen. 16' throw 126" vutec bright white screen, upside down ceiling mount. Not really affecting the pq from 14', and the 3D has been great, with very little ghosting and plenty bright allowing for some ambient light in normal, (eco) living room mode.

One thing that bugs however is the cheapness feel of the lens shift wheels. The verticle shift tends to slowly drift down after it's been set. I wish they would've made the adjustments a little more robust/firm.

Does anyone know of a good TEST FILE or something that I can use to see how my 6010 stands up to this test? I seem to have a bit of blooming, but I am somewhat new to projectors.

Honestly mine seems pretty tight...BUT I would love to post a screen shot of SOMETHING so the experts can look...

I would like to know if my minor PROBLEM is actually just me and lack of experience vs. BIG PROBLEM.
post #977 of 3088
Greetings.
This is my first message in this forum.
I bought a few days the epson tw9000 (5010) and i must say i have a problem.
After 30 hours of operation, i see in the right side on screen a green color(shadow) when i look at white backround. Is difficult to distinguish but is there.

But the worse is the sharpness when i look at the grid of pixel aligment.
When im doing focus to the right side of screen the left side has blurry and more fat lines.

I tried many times calibrate the focus, but every time when i fix the one side is blurring the other.

Avery body says, epson 5010 have almost razer sharp sharpness.
The v & h lens shift is centered and the epson is up to stand right across the screen.

should return it, or must live with this problem. ?
It is a common problem or not. ?
post #978 of 3088
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by toofast68 View Post

Does anyone know of a good TEST FILE or something that I can use to see how my 6010 stands up to this test? I seem to have a bit of blooming, but I am somewhat new to projectors.

Honestly mine seems pretty tight...BUT I would love to post a screen shot of SOMETHING so the experts can look...

I would like to know if my minor PROBLEM is actually just me and lack of experience vs. BIG PROBLEM.

Just take a close look at the projectors main menu.

Download & burn the AVS calibration disc.

View the Convergence pattern with the small squares with a single dot in the middle.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=948496
post #979 of 3088
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nemos View Post

Greetings.
This is my first message in this forum.
I bought a few days the epson tw9000 (5010) and i must say i have a problem.
After 30 hours of operation, i see in the right side on screen a green color(shadow) when i look at white backround. Is difficult to distinguish but is there.

But the worse is the sharpness when i look at the grid of pixel aligment.
When im doing focus to the right side of screen the left side has blurry and more fat lines.

I tried many times calibrate the focus, but every time when i fix the one side is blurring the other.

Avery body says, epson 5010 have almost razer sharp sharpness.
The v & h lens shift is centered and the epson is up to stand right across the screen.

should return it, or must live with this problem. ?
It is a common problem or not. ?

The focus uniformity issue may be corrected by moving your projector side to side until perfectly centered but the green shadow appears to be a panel issue.


If you are not happy, exchange it.
Don't live with an issue if it's bothersome.
post #980 of 3088
I tried to move the body of epson left-right, but nothing...

Here in my country, i must wait 15-20 days for a new piece.
They dont have any stock and must wait.
I am afraid maybe the new piece is worse than this.

I read some other users had the same problem with blurring at the corners.
When they fix focus at center, corners (or one side) is very blurring.
post #981 of 3088
Quote:
Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post

I thought that I'd just post a note that my 5010 has been working flawlessly & the picture is sharper than a kasumi knife.

Ditto!

Not sure if projectors have a "break in" period like speakers do, but for some reason I feel like the image now looks even better with a couple hundred hours on the unit!

The only "flaw" I've noticed is that maybe 1 out of every 20 times I turn it on, the fan goes into high mode for about a 60-90 seconds with no picture (though the lens cover does open). Then after that it seems to go through the normal power on cycle and everything is fine...No big deal but curious if anyone has noticed this behavior on their 5010 too?
post #982 of 3088
Quote:
Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman View Post

Just take a close look at the projectors main menu.

Download & burn the AVS calibration disc.

View the Convergence pattern with the small squares with a single dot in the middle.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=948496

Ok, I actually did that and my by no means did I have a single dot. I will play with it some more this weekend and post what I see.

Thanks again!
post #983 of 3088
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ubob800 View Post

Ditto!

Not sure if projectors have a "break in" period like speakers do, but for some reason I feel like the image now looks even better with a couple hundred hours on the unit!

The only "flaw" I've noticed is that maybe 1 out of every 20 times I turn it on, the fan goes into high mode for about a 60-90 seconds with no picture (though the lens cover does open). Then after that it seems to go through the normal power on cycle and everything is fine...No big deal but curious if anyone has noticed this behavior on their 5010 too?

That's what mine did a few times then one time, the light didn't come on, Lamp LED started to flash red on projector, lens cover closed & projector shut off.
I unplugged it for about 5 minutes & it powered up normally.
This was around 100 hours.

I had Epson send me a new lamp and it hasn't done that since.
post #984 of 3088
Hey Guys,
I am new to owning a projector but a landed the 5010 a few weeks back. Really love the projector but i have a question. I am noticing a really odd noise coming from the unit and this is no fan noise, the best i can relate it to is the sound of a hard drive processing. Does anyone have any clue what this noise is and if it is normal?

Thanks in advance....
post #985 of 3088
Quote:
Originally Posted by dasoccerbomb View Post

Hey Guys,
I am new to owning a projector but a landed the 5010 a few weeks back. Really love the projector but i have a question. I am noticing a really odd noise coming from the unit and this is no fan noise, the best i can relate it to is the sound of a hard drive processing. Does anyone have any clue what this noise is and if it is normal?

Thanks in advance....

Sounds like the iris...try turning off and see of the noise goes away.
post #986 of 3088
Apparently some of these units have a very loud iris. I can't hear mine. I leave it set to normal. It would be a good reason to return it.
post #987 of 3088
Quote:
Originally Posted by wnielsenbb View Post

Apparently some of these units have a very loud iris. I can't hear mine. I leave it set to normal. It would be a good reason to return it.

The problem is how loud is loud. I can for sure hear mine in quiet scenes...other than that I never hear it.

Is that NORMAL or TOO LOUD ?

Hard to tell without a reference point.
post #988 of 3088
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wnielsenbb View Post

Apparently some of these units have a very loud iris. I can't hear mine. I leave it set to normal. It would be a good reason to return it.

I believe the iris sounds about the same on most units.
Some just sit real close to the projector or have their audio volume low enough that they hear it when it's moving.

The projector sits about 4 feet above my head & I have never heard it even in quiet scenes because my audio is at a decent level and when there is a quiet scene, my ears can't hear it.

As someone once put it, the iris sounds like a mouse running across some drywall when it's moving. This characteristic sound will not change from unit to unit.
post #989 of 3088
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Originally Posted by icrf View Post

I'm in the exact same position. I bought mine February 7th, too, and they explicitly state no price protection. Oh well. Can't win them all. It's less than 4% of the purchase price, which makes the $100 feel like less.

UPDATE: I just talked to my sales rep yesterday at the vendor I bought my projector from, and complained about missing the $100 instant rebate from Epson. She said she would send an email to Epson to see if they will approve my rebate, since I didn't physically receive my projector from Fedex until the evening of the first day of the rebate, on Feb 10. Unfortunately, since Epson is the one offering the rebate, Epson would have to reimburse the Vendor first, then the Vendor would reimburse me. Hopefully I'll find out soon if they approve it or not, but I'm not really expecting them to... At least I'll have tried.

Also, I had orginally ordered 4 pair of the Panasonic 3D3LU glasses with my projector order, but the Rep told me yesterday they were now on backorder at Panasonic, and I wouldn't see them for at least another two weeks. I really didn't want to wait that long for my glasses, so I ended up switching my order to 4 pair of the Epson glasses that go with the unit, which they did have in stock. The Epson glasses were actually $10 more than the Panasonic, but they gave them to me as an even swap, so that saved me $40. The glasses will now be here on Thursday. I hope these will be acceptable; I guess the Panasonics are supposed to be lighter and more confortable, but at least the Epsons have replaceable batteries, so I won't have to throw the glasses away like when the rechargable battery eventually dies in the Panasonics.
post #990 of 3088
Don't forget to check out the 3010 3d glasses thread. I picked up the PS3 glasses at Best Buy for $40 each! I now have 5 pairs.

I have a 5010 coming on Saturday. I can't wait! I'm upgrading from an Epson 720.
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