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Anyone have a suggestion for a good set top digital antenna for a second story TV?

Can't go roof top due to HOA and attic is no higher than upstairs rooms. ( Cape Cod Style Home).

Thanks,
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Originally Posted by Stevester23 View Post

Anyone have a suggestion for a good set top digital antenna for a second story TV?

You might want to look at the Mohu Leaf. They're made in Raleigh and, when I last checked the reviews on Amazon, they were very highly rated. In fact, I've seen another company or two come out with antenna very much like the Leaf.
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Originally Posted by Stevester23 View Post

Anyone have a suggestion for a good set top digital antenna for a second story TV?

Can't go roof top due to HOA and attic is no higher than upstairs rooms. ( Cape Cod Style Home).

Thanks,

One that made locally is called the Wall-tenna. It seems to work well also.
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One that made locally is called the Wall-tenna. It seems to work well also.
Both the Mohu Leaf and Wall-tenna have gotten good reviews for that type of flat panel antenna. And Solid Signal now has an HD Blade which allows you to connect your own chosen cable length and insert an amp if necessary. Plus Mohu also makes an amped version. Mohu is made in Raleigh, but I didn't realize the Wall-tenna was locally made as well.
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Wall-tenna is made in Greensboro. I have one.
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Thank you....

I purchased an Antenna to go with a Directv AM21 off air tuner. All the channels in the area come in fine with the exception of Antenna TV.

I am assuming the issue noted on previous posts may still exist?
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Yes, the problem still exists. We are also missing Bounce TV 20-4, and the -3 and -4 TCT channels.

Where are you located? Can you get other markets with your antenna?
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Originally Posted by Stevester23 View Post

All the channels in the area come in fine with the exception of Antenna TV. I am assuming the issue noted on previous posts may still exist?

After the positive responses I got from a very helpful rep (about 5 months ago), I was hopeful. But his last response to me was repeated when I contacted them a few weeks ago - the right people know about the problem but there are so many hands the info must pass through, blah, blah, blah. The bottom line is there will be no updates given to the rep I talked to - we'll know it's fixed if it just starts working.

If you're up to it, I can't see how it would hurt to start a new request. If you'd like, pm me and I'll send you what I sent them (some very detailed info from foxeng, with his permission).
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Originally Posted by ejb1980 View Post

Yes, the problem still exists. We are also missing Bounce TV 20-4, and the -3 and -4 TCT channels.
Where are you located? Can you get other markets with your antenna?

High Point...

Like was stated in the other post. I guess we will get it when we get it.
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For you Redskins fans, we just got word that FOX has changed our 4pm NFL game from the Saints @ Packers to Washington @ Tampa Bay so you will be able to get your Redskins fix this Sunday! Panthers will still be at 1pm on FOX and WGHP.
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If you ever wondered what a tower would look like if one fell, here is the old 2000 ft WECT Wilmington analog tower at White Lake, NC. It was razed last week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPmXEuSHwKY
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Looks like there would have been some other radio or TV stations that could have used that very tall tower. But I do remember some folks in that area being upset when WECT moved their digital antenna to a different tower, whatever the reason was.
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Looks like there would have been some other radio or TV stations that could have used that very tall tower. But I do remember some folks in that area being upset when WECT moved their digital antenna to a different tower, whatever the reason was.

I don't understand it either why that tower couldn't have been used for some purpose... Maybe Raycom tried, but no one wanted to go there?

WeCT claimed that the city of Wilmington could not get a strong enough signal if they had a digital antenna on that tower. However, WECT lost the city of Fayetteville, and lost several counties to the west when they made this move. I guess they had to make a fast decision, and the current location near the coast was the best they could come up with, without building a new tower and relocation a little further east, instead of 30 miles east.
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Looks like there would have been some other radio or TV stations that could have used that very tall tower. But I do remember some folks in that area being upset when WECT moved their digital antenna to a different tower, whatever the reason was.

I don't understand it either why that tower couldn't have been used for some purpose... Maybe Raycom tried, but no one wanted to go there?

WeCT claimed that the city of Wilmington could not get a strong enough signal if they had a digital antenna on that tower. However, WECT lost the city of Fayetteville, and lost several counties to the west when they made this move. I guess they had to make a fast decision, and the current location near the coast was the best they could come up with, without building a new tower and relocation a little further east, instead of 30 miles east.

When that tower was built in the early 60's, there was no TV in SE NC. It had to cover a large area. Today the Wilmington DMA is just 6 or 7 counties in the immediate environs of Wilmington down towards Myrtle Beach. Fayetteville, which used to be its own market was merged with the Raleigh/Durham market years ago. To cover those counties close to the SC/NC border, the White Lake tower didn't work and there was no financial advantage to covering Fayetteville anymore. It had literally become a tower in the middle of no where that didn't cover anything. The only other tenant on that tower had been the FBI. It gave great coverage to SE NC from there. But in this day of cell phones, I suspect even the FBI had vacated the site.
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When that tower was built in the early 60's, there was no TV in SE NC. It had to cover a large area. Today the Wilmington DMA is just 6 or 7 counties in the immediate environs of Wilmington down towards Myrtle Beach. Fayetteville, which used to be its own market was merged with the Raleigh/Durham market years ago. To cover those counties close to the SC/NC border, the White Lake tower didn't work and there was no financial advantage to covering Fayetteville anymore. It had literally become a tower in the middle of no where that didn't cover anything. The only other tenant on that tower had been the FBI. It gave great coverage to SE NC from there. But in this day of cell phones, I suspect even the FBI had vacated the site.
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Today the Wilmington DMA is just 6 or 7 counties in the immediate environs of Wilmington down towards Myrtle Beach.

The market doesn't even have that many counties. The ones in the ILM market are Bladen, Brunswick, Columbus, New Hanover and Pender. Robeson and Scotland are in the Myrtle Beach/Florence TV market now, Onslow and Duplin are in the Greenville market, and Sampson and Cumberland are in Raleigh, although all those areas still receive the Wilmington signals on cable and OTA. Most of Cumberland probably can't get signals without lots of work, and I have still seen new 8 bay UHF antennas up on tall phone polls out there.
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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

When that tower was built in the early 60's, there was no TV in SE NC. It had to cover a large area. Today the Wilmington DMA is just 6 or 7 counties in the immediate environs of Wilmington down towards Myrtle Beach. Fayetteville, which used to be its own market was merged with the Raleigh/Durham market years ago. To cover those counties close to the SC/NC border, the White Lake tower didn't work and there was no financial advantage to covering Fayetteville anymore. It had literally become a tower in the middle of no where that didn't cover anything. The only other tenant on that tower had been the FBI. It gave great coverage to SE NC from there. But in this day of cell phones, I suspect even the FBI had vacated the site.

There may have been more than one reality in play. During Wilmington's early analog shutdown, calls from east central NC seemed prominent complaining. It may be that a number of viewers between Wilmington and Raleigh depended on WECT for NBC programming.........WECT's viewership may have shrunk due to the digital to analog switch. The FCC's opinion seemed to be. that the viewers toward Raleigh didn't have any business watching a Wilmington station. Whether my impression was right or wrong, I wasn't thrilled with much the FCC had to say.
Certainly there were those that had only VHF antennas, maybe for decades, that needed to upgrade. But I wonder how the NBC coverage is in parts of central and eastern NC.
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I remember, in the analog days, a lot of signal overlap in the coastal Carolinas. When we went to Myrtle Beach, the cable had stations from Florence, WIS-10 Columbia, Charleston, and Wilmington. I don't know how it is now, especially since they added that NBC station in Myrtle Beach.
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I remember, in the analog days, a lot of signal overlap in the coastal Carolinas. When we went to Myrtle Beach, the cable had stations from Florence, WIS-10 Columbia, Charleston, and Wilmington. I don't know how it is now, especially since they added that NBC station in Myrtle Beach.

Times change, I suppose. In the Triad, a lot of viewers watched out of market stations at one time. Before NC accepted Daylight Savings Time, WDBJ and WSLS had their network programs on an hour earlier on the Summer. WRAL and WSOC had audience. As the French sometimes suggest, if things change enough, they will become the same again. or something.. Antenna people are reaching out again.
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I have always enjoyed using an OTA antenna to receive neighboring regional markets. In the analog days, in Concord, I would watch Greensboro channels in addition to Charlotte. And when I lived in Virginia, I got both DC and Baltimore channels. Now, in SC, I watch Charlotte, in addition to Asheville-Greenville-Spartanburg.
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I just got a new TV. It is an LG 42" 1080p 120 Hz 3D Smart TV. I really like the "Set by program" mode as WGHP 8-2 displays correctly (16:9) and other SD channels show 4:3 with pillars, too. I wish the HD channels showed "just scan" mode instead of "16:9" so that the"WGHP" wasn't chopped of the bottom of the logo on 8-1 prime-time programming. Stupid over-scan. Oh well, can't have everything. I have the Directv input set to "Just Scan" (with "pillar box" on the Directv receiver) so the WGHP isn't chopped off there. Isn't it interesting that both of the situations I use to judge a properly displayed picture come from WGHP? (MLB Network, too, for cable channels).

The OTA tuner is better than the Samsung TV that has migrated to the bedroom. Last night, WDBJ Roanoke came through perfectly without moving the antenna.
WFMY, WUNC, WRAL, WGHP, WTVD, WGPX, WNCN, WCWG, WLFL, WRDC, WUVC, WMYV, and WRAZ are all perfect.
WLXI, WXLV, WRPX, and WGSR are pixely, but better than before. Note: they are pixely with the anteanna pointed at Raleigh, they are perfect (50% or more) when move the antenna toward Greensboro.

Although they didn't lock a picture, the RF channels for the following stations showed effort last night:
WSET Lynchburgh RF13 showed 18% strength
even WBRA Roanoke RF 3 was around 10%
WXII W-S only showed 3%, jumps to 15% if I point the antenna in the correct direction. Not a blip for WUNL.

This inspires me to want a new antenna to see if any of those will come through. Project for the future.


Does anyone know how to make the "Directv2PC" stuff not show on the input list? 0929120413.jpg 98k .jpg file
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Originally Posted by ejb1980 View Post

 

 I really like the "Set by program" mode as WGHP 8-2 displays correctly (16:9) and other SD channels show 4:3 with pillars, too. I wish the HD channels showed "just scan" mode instead of "16:9" so that the"WGHP" wasn't chopped of the bottom of the logo on 8-1 prime-time programming.

 

 

What does "just scan" mean? And what is overscan?

 

I understand why pillars at the right and left are used when a 4:3 image is displayed on a 16:9 set, and I understand why some movies are letterboxed, with the bars above and below the image, but why do some commercials and some TV shows have bars on all four sides of the image, causing the image to be way too small for the screen?

 

Has anyone noticed that some channels seem to cut to commercials very abruptly?

I have seen that happen many times on Antenna TV on WNCN. Sometimes the switch to the commercial is so abrupt that it seems to cut out a portion of the program. Is that because they are editing the old TV shows down to make room for more commercials?

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What does "just scan" mean? And what is overscan?

Overscan is extra image area around the four edges of a video image that may not be seen reliably by the viewer.
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I understand why pillars at the right and left are used when a 4:3 image is displayed on a 16:9 set, and I understand why some movies are letterboxed, with the bars above and below the image, but why do some commercials and some TV shows have bars on all four sides of the image, causing the image to be way too small for the screen?

Depending on many different things such as how your TV is displaying images, and what aspect ratio the station is transmitting and how the shows are sent. If a show is widescreen but was sent via a 4:3 distribution and transmitted via a 16:9 system. bars are displayed in letterbox for 4:3 sets and for those with 16:9 sets, on bars on the left and right are added and with the already bars on top and bottom it gives the appearance of black bars all around on 16:9 sets.
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Has anyone noticed that some channels seem to cut to commercials very abruptly?
I have seen that happen many times on Antenna TV on WNCN. Sometimes the switch to the commercial is so abrupt that it seems to cut out a portion of the program. Is that because they are editing the old TV shows down to make room for more commercials?

This is usually because the local break signal is sent 2 seconds ahead of the actual end of program segment. This is a hold over from the tape days. Usually automation systems will wait that 2 seconds to run the break. Some automation systems may not be set up correctly on dot 2 channels so that the program gets clipped. With video servers becoming the norm at stations, that 2 second pre-roll may or may not be used, depending on the station and the network. At WGHP, we still use the 2 second pre-roll but when our next automation goes on line next year, I suspect the 2 second pre-roll will go the way of the dinosaur.
Edited by foxeng - 9/29/12 at 12:04pm
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For those who care, I installed a Dolby 5.1 encoder on our main HD encoder for non network programming. We are seeing more and more syndicated programming being sent with 5.1. We aren't ready to record in 5.1 yet, we don't have that many syndicated programs available in 5.1 yet, but seem to be coming along. The scripted programs will be the first. We hope maybe next year we will have it all set up, but in the mean time we are getting things set up so when it comes time, the transmission path will be ready. If you hear anything funny on the main channel, that is what is happening. Right now I have it set up for 2/0 with surround but I hope next week to have the upmix to 5.1 running. That is when I suspect I will run into problems! There is so much to set up and double check. I can see why stations in the beginning had so much trouble. I am lucky that there has been so much written it has been a big help.
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Foxeng,

What do you think about sound bars? I've seen some that claim 5.1, but am skeptical. If they are really good, it would be nice to add one in one of my TV rooms that I am using just the tv speakers on now, and they don't sound all that great. I have noticed most shows aired on cable and even local channels are now in 5.1
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Foxeng,

What do you think about sound bars? I've seen some that claim 5.1, but am skeptical. If they are really good, it would be nice to add one in one of my TV rooms that I am using just the tv speakers on now, and they don't sound all that great. I have noticed most shows aired on cable and even local channels are now in 5.1

All I can offer is my opinion. If you need a better sound than the TV, then it is viable.As for 5.1. I wouldn't buy it for that.
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What do you think about sound bars?

Do your research..Try before buying...make sure your Tv has a digital output. to feed it. Some are good , some not so.
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Thanks guys. My TV has optical out, as does my HD cable box. I think I will stick to looking at 2.0 sound bars. I have no experience with them, so I will be going in blind.eek.gif haha
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Get a separate sub... a WORLD of difference. I have a 2.1 set up and i'm COMPLETELY satisfied with it...
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It should be noted that most TVs will not pass-through DD 5.1. Meaning, that if you connect a Blu-Ray, Satellite/Cable Box, etc to a TV and then use the TV's digital output, you will get DD 2.0 or 2.1 and NOT get true DD 5.1. Sources from within the TV will produce DD 5.1 (TV antenna tuner, Netflix on a Smart TV, etc) will produce DD 5.1. So, for a simple set-up, a sound bar will be more than sufficient for most people. With an external sub, as VARTV suggested.
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