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post #10861 of 11118
Watched North Carolinia game saturday appeared to be in HD i know it was 16/9. On WXLV.
post #10862 of 11118
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Originally Posted by SVTarHeel View Post

Haha, maybe I'm not as clueless as I thought... but I'm still frustrated. The problem is that, when I first started thinking through this process 2 years ago, I called multiple TV shops, stereo places and the like. Believe it or not, EVERY ONE of them told me I couldn't/wouldn't get anything with my ancient antenna and that I'd need a new 'digital' one.

Yup... most places don't know or are lying... misinformation is the number one killer of OTA - and people are shocked at how easy it is and how much better it is... Having said that, your DB-4 is much smaller and will do a bang up job - I have the DB-8 (basically two db-4's) and live 60 miles away and receive both Charlotte and GSO stations perfectly.
post #10863 of 11118
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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

For those interested, in about a month, WGHP will celebrate 50 years of broadcasting. It has been quite a ride, even before the station went on the air. The tower was about 3/4 of the way built when they found a crack in the very bottom section and the tower had to be dismantled and restacked. That is why it went on the air in October and not September as was originally plan.

The delay kept "Wide World of Sports", among other programs, off the air in the Triad for several weeks. WFMY had abandoned its ABC shows and filled the time with other programming.

Once on the air, strange things happened,
The first program was an introductory , giving information about the station to the viewers. That was followed by the first station ID, and the first network show. But, the ID did not come off just right.The announcer evidently had forgotten what station he was IDing, and what city it was in. Then the first network show did not air in its entirety.
My favorite was a little while on after this........during the late afternoon Tarzan showing, the movie audio stopped, and, was replaced by a familiar voice, seemingly showing someone around the new station's facilities. Presently, this was heard: "And over there is the audioman, he ain't worth a &%^(#....then audio off, soon restored to Tarzan.
post #10864 of 11118
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Originally Posted by squirrel 24 View Post

Watched North Carolinia game saturday appeared to be in HD i know it was 16/9. On WXLV.

It was. They must be too lazy or incompetent to run syndicated HD. If they can get ACC Network in HD, there's no reason why they can't do the rest.
post #10865 of 11118
Certain areas of the Greensboro market can receive WSOC or WTVD with an outside antenna. Which are much stronger ABC affiliates. I think WXLV exists only for Sinclair to transmit an ABC signal, and not much else.
post #10866 of 11118
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Certain areas of the Greensboro market can receive WSOC or WTVD with an outside antenna. Which are much stronger ABC affiliates. I think WXLV exists only for Sinclair to transmit an ABC signal, and not much else.

I am well aware of that and usually only watch WTVD. But the ACC Network game was not on WTVD. I didn't see it on Fox 50 (WRAZ Raleigh) either, but I found the game on CW22 (WLFL Raleigh), too. Both CW22 and ABC45 (WXLV W-S) showed the game in HD, although WXLV had the annoying thin black line across the top that they always have.
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No black line on WTVD or WSET...



But on WXLV....



I have emailed WXLV about this, and they basically say "that's the way it is."
post #10868 of 11118
I am just glad I can receive ABC again haven't got it since fox took over 8 been a long time since I watched a college game ota on ABC don't know how I do it took a lot of antenna moving but I receive it all the time now a 112 miles away had to tilt antenna pole back about 15* pick it up now full time with signal strength around 80 Winegard ap 8275 preamplifier .But what sealed the deal was a 4 way distribution amp from lowes.
post #10869 of 11118
I looked up Fries on a map. I guess it would be a challenge to receive WSET from there. WSET is not easy to receive, usually only in winter and fluttery OTA here, although my antenna is not the best with VHF and it's not high off the ground. I used to get it a lot better, but the same day maybe two years that WTVD did some antenna work to make their signal better, WSET became harder to receive. Is it possible that there is interference from 2 channels away? And now it's even harder because a couple of "loving" squirrels broke one of my elements. lol

WXLV and WLXI are tough for me, but I can get them clearly if I move the antenna. WXII and WUNL are 99% of the time impossible for me.
Edited by ejb1980 - 9/9/13 at 6:56pm
post #10870 of 11118
Picked Up Wset early one morning not since they have a low powered relay in Wytheville but a mountain comes in to play. Wxii easy up here get all Roanoke stations except Wset.
post #10871 of 11118
No such thing as a Digital antenna most stations are UHF you got what you need.
post #10872 of 11118
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Originally Posted by squirrel 24 View Post

No such thing as a Digital antenna most stations are UHF you got what you need.

Most are UHF, but there are digital VHF RF signals. None in the official Greensboro market, but there are three main ones for the northern parts from neighboring areas:

RF 3, PSIP 15-X, WBRA PBS Roanoke
RF 11, PSIP 11-X WTVD ABC Durham
RF 13, PSIP 13-X WSET ABC Lynchburg

There is an RF 11 in the Charlotte area, too.
post #10873 of 11118
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Originally Posted by squirrel 24 View Post

Picked Up Wset early one morning not since they have a low powered relay in Wytheville but a mountain comes in to play. Wxii easy up here get all Roanoke stations except Wset.

W05AA-D is in Roanoke on Twelve O'Clock Knob. Not Wytheville. I'm sure there are plenty of people in the New River Valley that wish WSET had a translator in that area.

- Trip
post #10874 of 11118
The new Arsenio Hall Show looks like they may be sending a Dolby Digital audio signal. In testing the signal, they listed a Dolby PID for surround, but there was never a Dolby signal on it. Just regular PCM and it had no audio. So not sure if they plan on doing Dolby or not. If so, it would be the first syndicated show we receive that would be sending Dolby on a regular basis.

And you also may have noticed with our new news graphics package, it is all based on 16:9 and not 4:3. We have decided that 4 years of 16:9 is long enough to be framing for 4:3. We are now framing newscasts and commercials we produce for 16:9. We send a letterbox AFD code for 4:3 viewers so they are getting the full picture letterboxed. There is still lots of 4:3 framed 16:9 but we can't do anything about those. I had said in 2009 it would be about 5 years before you see widespread 16:9 framing. It has begun.
post #10875 of 11118
Here is a URL you might be interested in. It is a real time listing of stations I am or have received in the past.

Just something to goof around with.

http://m.rabbitears.info/index.php?request=tvdx_one&tid=10399A8B&tno=0
post #10876 of 11118
WPDE. That's a hard one for me.
post #10877 of 11118
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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

And you also may have noticed with our new news graphics package, it is all based on 16:9 and not 4:3. We have decided that 4 years of 16:9 is long enough to be framing for 4:3. We are now framing newscasts and commercials we produce for 16:9. We send a letterbox AFD code for 4:3 viewers so they are getting the full picture letterboxed. There is still lots of 4:3 framed 16:9 but we can't do anything about those. I had said in 2009 it would be about 5 years before you see widespread 16:9 framing. It has begun.
Same thing has happened up here in SE VA... The NBC, FOX, and ABC stations have already done this...
post #10878 of 11118
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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

The new Arsenio Hall Show looks like they may be sending a Dolby Digital audio signal. In testing the signal, they listed a Dolby PID for surround, but there was never a Dolby signal on it. Just regular PCM and it had no audio. So not sure if they plan on doing Dolby or not. If so, it would be the first syndicated show we receive that would be sending Dolby on a regular basis.

And you also may have noticed with our new news graphics package, it is all based on 16:9 and not 4:3. We have decided that 4 years of 16:9 is long enough to be framing for 4:3. We are now framing newscasts and commercials we produce for 16:9. We send a letterbox AFD code for 4:3 viewers so they are getting the full picture letterboxed. There is still lots of 4:3 framed 16:9 but we can't do anything about those. I had said in 2009 it would be about 5 years before you see widespread 16:9 framing. It has begun.

Great news on both fronts.
post #10879 of 11118
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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

Here is a URL you might be interested in. It is a real time listing of stations I am or have received in the past.

Just something to goof around with.

http://m.rabbitears.info/index.php?request=tvdx_one&tid=10399A8B&tno=0

This would be a pleasant casual pursuit were it not for the PSIP IDs that fill up tuner memories..
I don't do much DXing anymore. Sometimes I'll gave a go at VHF, as my tuners are mostly clear of stations there.
I've had a few analog bounces from north and south of our borders recently.\
Rarely, I'll get WSET, WNCT, WSPA or WLOS which are all digital VHF .
To go exploring UHF, I'd have to dump my tuner memory, as most of that band is locked up in real or virtual channels.
post #10880 of 11118
There is a lptv relay in Wytheville it is ABC but it is not WSET it is WKPZ a relay of WKPT ABC affilate. I live here i know its there source W9WI.com/TV Database.
post #10881 of 11118
That signal is long gone. It was sold to WLFG and later deleted by the FCC.

- Trip
post #10882 of 11118
I picked it up back in July when I point my vhf antenna to the north there is hardly any stations that way except WVVA All I have to do is point the antenna that way it comes in on analog not digital . And it is WKPT. Pick up a lot of strange stuff on the mountain in the spring picked up a digital station out of South Dakota didn't even scan tv just showed up .Elevation makes you throw everything your told about dtv out the window .
Edited by squirrel 24 - 9/11/13 at 7:23pm
post #10883 of 11118
That's really cool.Foxeng. Your URL .
post #10884 of 11118
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Originally Posted by difuse View Post

This would be a pleasant casual pursuit were it not for the PSIP IDs that fill up tuner memories..
I don't do much DXing anymore. Sometimes I'll gave a go at VHF, as my tuners are mostly clear of stations there.
I've had a few analog bounces from north and south of our borders recently.\
Rarely, I'll get WSET, WNCT, WSPA or WLOS which are all digital VHF .
To go exploring UHF, I'd have to dump my tuner memory, as most of that band is locked up in real or virtual channels.

LG TVs let you "manual tune" which goes through each RF signal. When I scroll through there, it will not use the stored PSIP, only what it tunes in at the time. Greatest feature of the TV in my opinion!
post #10885 of 11118
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Originally Posted by ejb1980 View Post

LG TVs let you "manual tune" which goes through each RF signal. When I scroll through there, it will not use the stored PSIP, only what it tunes in at the time. Greatest feature of the TV in my opinion!

It does seem appealing.
I wonder if OTA television will be viable long enough for me to take advantage of such a feature in a few years.
The FCC seems absolutely determined to reduce the number of UHF TV channels.
I might not want to bother with TV in a few years.
post #10886 of 11118
Sick day today... LOVE the 16:9 graphics on the Fox 8 noon news. I am hoping for a severe weather crawl to see if that horribly huge graphic that was used previously is gone! Good work, Foxeng. I will give you credit since I "know" no one else there.

I have heard two older people whine about it today, however, since it's "too small" and has "the stupid HD black bars" on it on their primitive 4:3 sets. The same people complain about football on Fox because if they zoom in on it, the score is cut off. They will get over it.
post #10887 of 11118
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Originally Posted by ejb1980 View Post

Sick day today... LOVE the 16:9 graphics on the Fox 8 noon news. I am hoping for a severe weather crawl to see if that horribly huge graphic that was used previously is gone! Good work, Foxeng. I will give you credit since I "know" no one else there.

I have heard two older people whine about it today, however, since it's "too small" and has "the stupid HD black bars" on it on their primitive 4:3 sets. The same people complain about football on Fox because if they zoom in on it, the score is cut off. They will get over it.
Yes, sir.
There is nothing like getting sick and hoping for dangerous weather.:cool.gif
I am thinking on that LG tuner, still.
post #10888 of 11118
You need an LG model that has Smart TV in order to have full menu interface with complete program info and channel guide. Last year some of the entry level models had this complete feature but not this year. Plasma or LED. Which I believe begins with the 5700 models and above in both categories. But the plasma PN6500 does not have it this year. Only 5700 plasma. But all LG models allow direct tuning and manual add channel with the actual RF number which is indeed very nice. Or if you can still find last years PA6500 or 5500 plasma it will have the complete program info.
post #10889 of 11118
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

You need an LG model that has Smart TV in order to have full menu interface with complete program info and channel guide. Last year some of the entry level models had this complete feature but not this year. Plasma or LED. Which I believe begins with the 5700 models and above in both categories. But the plasma PN6500 does not have it this year. Only 5700 plasma. But all LG models allow direct tuning and manual add channel with the actual RF number which is indeed very nice. Or if you can still find last years PA6500 or 5500 plasma it will have the complete program info.

I think just having a tuner that ignored the aliases would be good.
Sometimes the aliases hurt my head.
If I punch in "35" , I don't like the TV telling me I actually punched in "8"
Or, if I go to the highest number channel, I get told I went to the lowest.
post #10890 of 11118
LG signal meter lets you enter the actual RF channel and then in a sub bar will show the remapped channel. Very good feature. Also the upper models give dual meters showing both signal strength and signal quality.
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