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post #10891 of 11118
The signal quality bar is completely useless. It is either 100 or 0, never seen it be anything else!
post #10892 of 11118
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Originally Posted by ejb1980 View Post

Sick day today... LOVE the 16:9 graphics on the Fox 8 noon news. I am hoping for a severe weather crawl to see if that horribly huge graphic that was used previously is gone! Good work, Foxeng. I will give you credit since I "know" no one else there.

Thanks. Not really looking for complements. You can't expect what you don't get!

No, not yet on the weather crawl. All this stuff takes time. We have been working on the graphics for news since February.
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I have heard two older people whine about it today, however, since it's "too small" and has "the stupid HD black bars" on it on their primitive 4:3 sets. The same people complain about football on Fox because if they zoom in on it, the score is cut off. They will get over it.

Funny, we have had the news 16:9 letterboxed on SD/analog for almost 9 months! All we have changed is the graphics. They are just complaining NOW!!!!!?????
post #10893 of 11118
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Originally Posted by ejb1980 View Post

The signal quality bar is completely useless. It is either 100 or 0, never seen it be anything else!

Because it isn't a signal indicator as in signal strength. It is really a combination of signal strength and signal quality, called BER. You can have 100% signal and 0 BER. and no picture. You can reversely have 20% signal, 28 BER and a beautiful HD picture. Those indicators are pretty much useless.
post #10894 of 11118
I don't like constant crawls, like what they do in the Raleigh and Greenville markets... What works for me is just a static image. After a while, the crawl really starts to get annoying, to the point of making my head spin. Everyone is different, so at least you would think stations could mix it up a bit. We have not had near the norm for bad weather this year, so not much to complain about overall anyway. smile.gif When it is day after day is when people start getting fed up.
post #10895 of 11118
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Originally Posted by squirrel 24 View Post

That's really cool.Foxeng. Your URL .

It is a part of Trip's rabbitears.info website. I think he is looking for others to participate to help fill in the areas. It is a HDHomerun tuner running a special program that scans the channels and then sends them to the central website. I don't have it on much of an antenna. I do want to put it on a better antenna that gets 360 and not just a heading of 120 degrees!
post #10896 of 11118
The hd homerun dual tuner looks pretty good might have to check into it.Might be on my xmas list.
post #10897 of 11118
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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

Thanks. Not really looking for complements. You can't expect what you don't get!

No, not yet on the weather crawl. All this stuff takes time. We have been working on the graphics for news since February.
Funny, we have had the news 16:9 letterboxed on SD/analog for almost 9 months! All we have changed is the graphics. They are just complaining NOW!!!!!?????

No, they have been. But the new graphics are different and a little smaller that's something new to complain about. In fairness to them, they are blurry and you can't read some of the smaller type on their TVs. But it's BEAUTIFUL in HD!
post #10898 of 11118
It's just a matter of time till there picture tube goes and they discover that it cost a lot to restore antiques.
post #10899 of 11118
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Originally Posted by squirrel 24 View Post

It's just a matter of time till there picture tube goes and they discover that it cost a lot to restore antiques.

I'm still using a DTV CRT, in addition to an LCD HDTV. I do not consider the CRT as past its prime. It produces a very sharp, very watchable SD picture. It is much superior to a converted SD on an analog set...
I am nowhere near wanting to retire it.
post #10900 of 11118
I have a 27 inchToshiba CRT connected to a Zenith coverter box in a bonus room. Although SD, it does indeed produce a very nice picture. Purchased around 2003 when the CRTs began having flat glass screens, but still a 4x3 full sized TV. Thick in the back. There was a brief period around 2007 when CRTs added digital tuners, then a few years later they stopped production. But in most cases, the converter boxes had better tuners than the built in tuners in these SD CRTs, so I still recommend using a converter box with these TVs. The Zenith and Channel Master boxes were very good, and the Apex and Digital Stream are still sold at Best Buy and Radioshack.
post #10901 of 11118
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

I have a 27 inchToshiba CRT connected to a Zenith coverter box in a bonus room. Although SD, it does indeed produce a very nice picture. Purchased around 2003 when the CRTs began having flat glass screens, but still a 4x3 full sized TV. Thick in the back. There was a brief period around 2007 when CRTs added digital tuners, then a few years later they stopped production. But in most cases, the converter boxes had better tuners than the built in tuners in these SD CRTs, so I still recommend using a converter box with these TVs. The Zenith and Channel Master boxes were very good, and the Apex and Digital Stream are still sold at Best Buy and Radioshack.

It may be that converter boxes had or have, better tuners than some sets did. .I experimented with STB's a little last decade What I saw was a good analog picture. But it had the characteristics of an analog picture. Reds were difficult, and color contrast was poorer than with digital. I did not think converters were worth using.. I'm certain converter boxes were a great option for those who did not want to buy new equipment, but, they haven't been for me.
post #10902 of 11118
Yeah i still have a sd tv with a digital tuner in my wood workshop and it does good, didnt want dust to get on a HDTV. It works good the full screen on Football games is a little outta whack at times.But its nothing to complain with a phone call . I just go in the house and everything is fine in HD . The tv in the workshop has features i wish my HDTV had the guide shows about 10 or 11 hours in advance a clock you can set by current channel time with the mash of a button. The only problem is i dont know where you could get a new one only one i have seen. Its a really good RCA tv.
Edited by squirrel 24 - 9/17/13 at 4:19pm
post #10903 of 11118
If it still works dont retire it, but you can get a HDTV that size cheaper than you could replace the tube in the older one.
post #10904 of 11118
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Originally Posted by squirrel 24 View Post

If it still works dont retire it, but you can get a HDTV that size cheaper than you could replace the tube in the older one.
The plasma TVs are the best bang for the buck bargain. Great pic quality and very good prices now. Even the basic 720p versions look good with an antenna. Panasonic, Samsung, LG models all very nice.
post #10905 of 11118
Yeah plasma kinda faded away for a while hadn't heard much about them since transition but now there back strong .
post #10906 of 11118
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Originally Posted by squirrel 24 View Post

Yeah plasma kinda faded away for a while hadn't heard much about them since transition but now there back strong .
The 51 inch 720p plasma from Samsung is $477 at HHG this week. And I have seen the LG version for $349. Both very nice TVs. And there is a 50 inch Panasonic 1080p plasma at Costco for $599. And both Fry's and Microcenter in Ga. had a 60 inch LG Smart plasma for $699. Great prices on plasma, better pic quality, and definitely best bang for the buck now if you are purchasing a new TV. But if you prefer an LED, you will in most cases pay more except for a knock off brand or possibly a Vizio.
post #10907 of 11118
I can't tune wghp 8.1 over the air. I live in Forest Oaks and can receive all the other networks crystal clear even WXII that's transmitted 45 miles away. My antenna is directed 208 degrees SW, I believe wghp should be at 218 according to antennaweb.org. I'm using a clearstream 2v with an amplifier. I'd appreciate any advice thanks.
post #10908 of 11118
What amplifier are you using? Have you tried without the amp? Amps, inappropriately used, are often detrimental to good reception .

Have you tried multiple antenna locations? TV signals often don't behave the way we want them to so you have go on a hunt for them.
post #10909 of 11118
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Originally Posted by ProjectSHO89 View Post

What amplifier are you using? Have you tried without the amp? Amps, inappropriately used, are often detrimental to good reception .

Have you tried multiple antenna locations? TV signals often don't behave the way we want them to so you have go on a hunt for them.

I tuned the channels without an amplifier. I only added an amplifier later which eliminated the pixellation and signal interruption. I haven't tried multiple locations yet just rotated the antenna in various directions. The funny thing is I can get 8.2 crystal clear but can't tune 8.1 at all, aren't they broadcast from the same tower?
post #10910 of 11118
If you get 8-2, you should get 8-1. They are same signal...
post #10911 of 11118
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Originally Posted by jamawass View Post

I tuned the channels without an amplifier. I only added an amplifier later which eliminated the pixellation and signal interruption. I haven't tried multiple locations yet just rotated the antenna in various directions. The funny thing is I can get 8.2 crystal clear but can't tune 8.1 at all, aren't they broadcast from the same tower?
Yes same signal from RF35. So must be a glitch with the TV tuner. Try rescanning. You should get both 8.1 and 8.2 .
post #10912 of 11118
You can also try manually inputting 35 into your tv.

Are you using the Directv AM21 tuner? That thing hates WGHP, rescan until you get WGHPDT not WGHPSTA. WGHPSTA doesn't work anymore, as of a few weeks ago (at least for me!)
post #10913 of 11118
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Originally Posted by ejb1980 View Post

You can also try manually inputting 35 into your tv.

Are you using the Directv AM21 tuner? That thing hates WGHP, rescan until you get WGHPDT not WGHPSTA. WGHPSTA doesn't work anymore, as of a few weeks ago (at least for me!)

Mine still does.
post #10914 of 11118
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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

Mine still does.

I was just coming here to post that WGHPSTA is shoing on my AM21 again and it works. I give up trying to figure that thing out.
post #10915 of 11118
I just noticed that WFMY 2-2 is different now. First, it is the WeatherNation network. Second, it's is 16:9 SD, including the local spots.
post #10916 of 11118
Just like WSET 13.3
post #10917 of 11118
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Originally Posted by ejb1980 View Post

I just noticed that WFMY 2-2 is different now. First, it is the WeatherNation network. Second, it's is 16:9 SD, including the local spots.

Yep, The Weather Nation looks OK. Some boxed and WS ads, too.seem OK.. However, WFMY throws the CBS Morning Show on .2 on Saturdays. The conversion from HD to WS SD produced a picture I would term ugly.. I do not believe I've ever seen a digitally produced program look so bad...........
I do not think the bit allocation is sufficient for a program such as the CBS MS full screen....................................
post #10918 of 11118
When WGHP shows things on 8-2 in SD widescreen, it looks great. WTVD runs two HD channels at the same time (ABC HD on 11-1 and LWN HD on 11-2 - and LWN SD on 11-3) and both HD channels look ok, although 11-2 isn't the best. WFMY is doing something wrong. Am I the only one that thinks WFMY sounds funny, too? Their audio is "hollow" like it's not a true 5.1 and has A LOT of bass compared to most other channels (local and national). I rarely watch WFMY and whenever I must, I remember why.
post #10919 of 11118
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Originally Posted by ejb1980 View Post

When WGHP shows things on 8-2 in SD widescreen, it looks great. WTVD runs two HD channels at the same time (ABC HD on 11-1 and LWN HD on 11-2 - and LWN SD on 11-3) and both HD channels look ok, although 11-2 isn't the best. WFMY is doing something wrong. Am I the only one that thinks WFMY sounds funny, too? Their audio is "hollow" like it's not a true 5.1 and has A LOT of bass compared to most other channels (local and national). I rarely watch WFMY and whenever I must, I remember why.
I don't now about the sound.
But as to the video on WFMY .2, less than 9 percent of its stream is gong to that service, at least at last report. The best part of its stream is going to the video on its full HD ,1 service. Weather. Nation is mostly static or slow moving graphics, so, the low bitrate is not too much of an issue. But it is not appropriate .for close views of people, or rapid motion. I'm not sure anyone is watching on Saturday mornings, so it may not matter.
post #10920 of 11118
I just checked and WFMY is running about the same bit rate on their .2 that we do on ours. Not sure what they are doing, but something isn't right. Their video looks pretty bad. If they are doing any D/A A/D conversion, that would cause problems.
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