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post #91 of 274
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Originally Posted by OldCodger73 View Post

I'm on the fence on the extended version as I already have the three theatrcal releases. Has anyone double dipped on the extended version and, if so, did you feel it was worth it? I've read the books and realize that last two movies are Fire and Hornet Lite.

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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Yes, well worth it. I sold the 3 separate titles and paid for about 1/2 of the Extended.

I agree. I saw all three of the theatrical versions of the Millenium Trilogy before I got the Extended Edition. The Extended Edition tells the story much more clearly than the theatrical versions did, it seems to me.
post #92 of 274
I watched the original theatres versions. I did rent the extended cut of the first movie. I thought it was a better version. it seem the clarify a few scenes and stuff.

I have not seen 2 and 3 extended cuts. I heard from others that they said it was better.

Jacob
post #93 of 274
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Originally Posted by haineshisway View Post

My guess is that in a blind test no one would be able to tell the difference.

I have the region B version out of Amazon UK and someone else had the recently released US version. Having multiple BR players we could run them side by side on the same HD display. If there is a difference, video-wise, it is hard to see and may not be discernible in running two displays simultaneously. The only noticeable difference was the bit rate that on the region B is 2X the US version, but it does not seem to impact what is seen on screen, meaning that I could not state that I could see a difference in switching between the two BR players. So that the 25GB versus a 50GB disc maybe irrelevant in this case.
post #94 of 274
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Yes, well worth it. I sold the 3 separate titles and paid for about 1/2 of the Extended.

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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I agree. I saw all three of the theatrical versions of the Millenium Trilogy before I got the Extended Edition. The Extended Edition tells the story much more clearly than the theatrical versions did, it seems to me.

so is the pq on the two last movies on the bd extended good enough despite the use of 16mm film?
post #95 of 274
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Originally Posted by IanD View Post

Nope, only by a hardware mod for Bluray and then it isn't region free: you have to manually set it to the region of the disc each time.

On mine it stays at what region you set it until you change it again. No big deal at all as you simply press and hold a button until you hear the beep. WELL worth the upgrade.
post #96 of 274
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Originally Posted by fookoo_2010 View Post

I have the region B version out of Amazon UK and someone else had the recently released US version. Having multiple BR players we could run them side by side on the same HD display. If there is a difference, video-wise, it is hard to see and may not be discernible in running two displays simultaneously. The only noticeable difference was the bit rate that on the region B is 2X the US version, but it does not seem to impact what is seen on screen, meaning that I could not state that I could see a difference in switching between the two BR players. So that the 25GB versus a 50GB disc maybe irrelevant in this case.

How big were your side-by-side display screens?

I'm watching mine on my 24" 1080p monitor up fairly close and see lots of grain on discs 2 and 3. We watched them from 9' away on our 50" 6-year-old 1080i Sony Grand Wega II rear projection TV that has a color alignment problem that's not worth fixing out of warranty, and we could see no major grain - so in some ways it looked a bit better on our less-than-perfect TV.

If you were watching on decent size TVs from normal viewing distance, then it sounds like the concern over 25GB BDs versus 50GB BDs is unnecessary.

Can you tell if that's just grain I'm seeing or if it's digital noise? Some reviewers claim it's noise with artifacts, not just grain.
post #97 of 274
The UK EE has dropped to £17.99 (£14.99 ex-VAT) and I've settled for that as both the Can and US EE will cost me over $60.
post #98 of 274
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Originally Posted by eweiss View Post

How big were your side-by-side display screens?

I'm watching mine on my 24" 1080p monitor up fairly close and see lots of grain on discs 2 and 3. We watched them from 9' away on our 50" 6-year-old 1080i Sony Grand Wega II rear projection TV that has a color alignment problem that's not worth fixing out of warranty, and we could see no major grain - so in some ways it looked a bit better on our less-than-perfect TV.

If you were watching on decent size TVs from normal viewing distance, then it sounds like the concern over 25GB BDs versus 50GB BDs is unnecessary.

Can you tell if that's just grain I'm seeing or if it's digital noise? Some reviewers claim it's noise with artifacts, not just grain.

50" 1080p plasma that has been professionally calibrated. I am sitting about 7 feet away from the screen. It looked fine to me, but there is always the psychological factor of 25 vs 50. As to grain, there is nothing unusual about it, one way or the other, but that's my eyes, meaning that YMMV.
post #99 of 274
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Originally Posted by fookoo_2010 View Post

I have the region B version out of Amazon UK and someone else had the recently released US version. Having multiple BR players we could run them side by side on the same HD display. If there is a difference, video-wise, it is hard to see and may not be discernible in running two displays simultaneously. The only noticeable difference was the bit rate that on the region B is 2X the US version, but it does not seem to impact what is seen on screen, meaning that I could not state that I could see a difference in switching between the two BR players. So that the 25GB versus a 50GB disc maybe irrelevant in this case.

Precisely, and correct. People on these boards see bit rates and 25 and 50 and think those numbers mean something - sometimes they do, but a lot of times they don't, not in a discernable way, which is why I keep saying that in a blind test most people would either simply make a guess and a lot of the time the guess would be wrong.

I think what we're seeing in movies two and three is grain from 16mm - the fact is those transfers look really good, considering they were shot in 16mm - in fact, there is little grain in brightly lit and outdoor scenes - it really shows in the low-light stuff.
post #100 of 274
Where are the audiophiles complaining that the BD-25s have cost them a downgrade to 16-bit instead of 24-bit in the UK?
post #101 of 274
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Originally Posted by msgohan View Post

Where are the audiophiles complaining that the BD-25s have cost them a downgrade to 16-bit instead of 24-bit in the UK?

Just one more "virtue" of BD25s...
post #102 of 274
Are you saying the Swedish Language track in the U.S. version is lower quality than that in the U.K. version? I.e., 16-bit vs. 24-bit?
post #103 of 274
So, maybe stupid question, but are we sure they are shot on 16mm? I heard before/during production they would should those on video (RED or whatever). I'm guessing they changed their minds and went with film?
post #104 of 274
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Originally Posted by Spiritual_Chaos View Post

So, maybe stupid question, but are we sure they are shot on 16mm? I heard before/during production they would should those on video (RED or whatever). I'm guessing they changed their minds and went with film?

You're thinking of the American trilogy, which is being shot with RED Digital Cinema cameras by David Fincher. Those are going to be full 4K RED end-to-end.
post #105 of 274
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Originally Posted by Spiritual_Chaos View Post

So, maybe stupid question, but are we sure they are shot on 16mm? I heard before/during production they would should those on video (RED or whatever). I'm guessing they changed their minds and went with film?

The only question re: discs/movies 2 & 3 of the Swedish version is whether they were shot on 16mm or on Super 16mm - I've read both. But that they were shot on 16mm film of some sort is certain.
post #106 of 274
Super16, I am sure, as it is native to a widescreen aspect ratio. No way were they simple 16mm.
post #107 of 274
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Originally Posted by eweiss View Post

Are you saying the Swedish Language track in the U.S. version is lower quality than that in the U.K. version? I.e., 16-bit vs. 24-bit?

Both tracks are 24-bit lossless on the UK while the US one has 16-bit lossless Swedish with lossy English.

Also carrying 24-bit lossless: the Swedish release (no English) and the Aussie release (Region B, burned-in subs, no dub, slightly higher video rate than UK). The AU has a considerably higher audio bitrate than any of the others even though all are DTS-HD MA.
post #108 of 274
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

so is the pq on the two last movies on the bd extended good enough despite the use of 16mm film?

some help here, please. got to decide whether i should get these before christmas.
post #109 of 274
"good enough" is a subjective decision. The grain in lower-light/indoor scenes may be a distraction or annoyance or it may not bother you at all. Only you can determine this. I think it's probably worth the pre-pub price of between $45 and $50. The only way to make movies 2 and 3 look better is some DNR or other filtering, which would probably hurt the PQ in other ways. So if you want to see the Extended movie, this is probably as good as it'll get.
post #110 of 274
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

some help here, please. got to decide whether i should get these before christmas.

Yes, yes, yes, the transfers are excellent and look like they should - that is the ONLY thing that should concern you.
post #111 of 274
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Originally Posted by eweiss View Post

"good enough" is a subjective decision. The grain in lower-light/indoor scenes may be a distraction or annoyance or it may not bother you at all. Only you can determine this. I think it's probably worth the pre-pub price of between $45 and $50. The only way to make movies 2 and 3 look better is some DNR or other filtering, which would probably hurt the PQ in other ways. So if you want to see the Extended movie, this is probably as good as it'll get.

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Originally Posted by haineshisway View Post

Yes, yes, yes, the transfers are excellent and look like they should - that is the ONLY thing that should concern you.


thank you for the responses!

decided this will be my christmas gift. last i checked amazon was out and i wouldn't get delivery until after christmas.

called 2 b & n and one said sold out and the other said in stock.
drove through mall traffic and go to b & n, and there coputer inventory system is getting buggy and turns out they are sold out. tried bb across the street, 15 minutes travel time, and can't find it and the employees don't even know what i'm talking about.

in despair, i come home and check amazon, and whadddaa know, back in stock. delivery early next week.


by the way i really liked fincher's film
post #112 of 274
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

thank you for the responses!

decided this will be my christmas gift. last i checked amazon was out and i wouldn't get delivery until after christmas.

called 2 b & n and one said sold out and the other said in stock.
drove through mall traffic and go to b & n, and there coputer inventory system is getting buggy and turns out they are sold out. tried bb across the street, 15 minutes travel time, and can't find it and the employees don't even know what i'm talking about.

in despair, i come home and check amazon, and whadddaa know, back in stock. delivery early next week.

by the way i really liked fincher's film

The local B&N's are pawning off the original BD Trilogy. The only Extended Trilogy they have in the stores is the DVD set.
post #113 of 274
If you want more Noomi, she has a major part in the new Sherlock Holmes adventure as their gypsy woman sidekick/guide.
post #114 of 274
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Originally Posted by eweiss View Post

If you want more Noomi, she has a major part in the new Sherlock Holmes adventure as their gypsy woman sidekick/guide.

Worst thing in it, not her fault but the writing.
post #115 of 274
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

Worst thing in it, not her fault but the writing.

Rarely do I find an actor's performance objectable.
Conversely, I rarely find a writer's "performance" acceptable.
post #116 of 274
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Rarely do I find an actor's performance objectable.
Conversely, I rarely find a writer's "performance" acceptable.

She was so underwritten, all the women were
post #117 of 274
the review i read said her talents were sadly "unused".
post #118 of 274
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

the review i read said her talents were sadly "unused".

She stands in the background and pulls faces a lot
post #119 of 274
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

She stands in the background and pulls faces a lot

She was simply put in the movie for name recognition and tickets. There are a lot of people who will literally chomp at the bit to see anything that has their flavor of the month from another movie they liked if they see a person's name on the credits. That's not a sign that she is a bad actress, but it's basically "Morgan Freeman" casting to get profits.
post #120 of 274
I expect she'll have more of a role in Prometheus.
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