More Flat Pack Kits Coming. - Page 5

Create a Kickstarter campaign!! I'm sure plenty of folks would contribute.

http://www.kickstarter.com/

Hmm. Am I (and hometheaterdoc) the only one(s) sitting here thinking.....the money that comes in from selling all of the new 4.0 boxes will go for getting the next run of the smaller ones (the largest at the moment being the 3.0). There may or may not ever be a new 3.5, so it may be 4.0 or nothing (the 3.0 being too small for my 15's). But the 4.0 is available cut for 18" woofers only. Should I just get the 4.0-18 boxes, and make my own baffles? Or did Erich get in some uncut baffles? As Andy Kaufman said (I...don't...know...what...to...do!).

UPDATE!!! Erich responded as I was typing. Thanks Erich!
Edited by BDP24 - 2/10/13 at 2:22pm

Thanks for the PM Erich. Reply sent.

Hi Erich!
Wondering if you will have baffles for Dayton Ultimax 15" DVC driver.
Thanks,

Erich, I'm in for two of the SI 18" subwoofer flatpacks. Just let me know a good time to come by and pick them up. I have sent you a couple pm's but have not heard back. I understand you have a ton to sort through, but I just did not want the boxes to run out. Thanks,

Aug E.

I am guessing it should be ok as per the PE specs the cutout diameter for RS is only 5.8mm more overall than Ultimax.

For those hoping for 3.5 boxes and having my measly request for 4 of them help get them built, I emailed Erich last night and officially rescinded my request for 3.5 boxes for my project.

It was pretty simple logic why I wanted them:

1) cost - the pro cabinet shops that I work with a lot locally for finish work for my installs are expensive for test mule boxes (which is what they would be for me given where I am in the design and testing phase of some big horn speakers). They basically charge very close to what a fully veneered, stained, and lacquered box would be because to them the finish work is very minor. Their time is in getting everything set for the boxes and glue up. Their finish guys and shop setup is crazy awesome and they turn out top shelf furniture and cabinets in no time. It's the setup time with their machines for the boxes themselves that is the pain for them for a single run of a couple items. So Erich's flatpacks, even paying freight shipping, were a good bit cheaper... I'm already waiting on Erich for the SEOS-24 and Iwata-300 horns which are going to need big boxes and not be super cheap to ship to me via Fedex. I figured I'd kill two birds with one stone by getting some flatpacks to test my speaker building ideas with the big horns, and have the flatpacks and big horns shipped via freight carrier on a single pallet.... it would likely mean reduced shipping prices on the flat packs (thus making them even more attractive because of the price compared to local boxes) and less chance of damage for the big horns going the freight route strapped to a pallet versus riding on conveyor belts and letting those wahoo shipping employees potentially wreck the fiberglass horns I've been waiting months and months to arrive. Erich does very nice packing... but that won't help if they drive a forklift through the side of the box (which has happened to at least 3 different packages over the years that I've been shipping stuff... and the other damage I've had to boxes I'm not sure you would believe because, honestly, it makes me shake my head to think about it... It takes Ace Ventura to a new level) more importantly, I'm spending this cash on big horns, high end compression drivers and woofers and speaker boxes to design a couple different big horn designs to satisfy my curiosity with the style of speaker... until I'm sure I'm going to keep any of the options, a raw MDF test mule box for the woofers is all I need. If I keep something, I was thinking at that point I get the pro cabinet guys here in town involved and get a crazy nice finished product... but I could just as easily build these speakers, not like them as much as the stuff I already have, and just sell off the parts and trash the boxes. With the cost differential between the MDF flatpacks from Erich versus my local guys, I felt it worth exploring to get the stuff from Erich and glue them myself rather than risk larger sunk costs on local cabinets if I trash them down the road.......

2) convenience - being CNC'ed, I could glue Erich's flat packs up easily without too many clamps. I gave up speaker building my own boxes years ago and sold off most of my woodworking stuff. Gluing up a couple boxes in the garage with a flatpack that basically only needs masking tape to hold the panels together while the glue is drying is possible... spending a bunch of money to re-buy a bunch of clamps and/or the woodworking power tools and setting up the garage to do it are not in the cards when this is likely a short term, couple of projects fad with me diving back into the DIY thing.

However, I'm also a little bit OCD about project planning and getting these builds finally underway (i've been trying to get these speaker projects started since like March of last year with the AE woofer group buy also holding things up from getting started). With the uncertainty of when or if the 3.5 boxes will be made, I decided to go to the much more known delivery schedule of my local cabinet guys and pay the premium for boxes from them after all. At this point, that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make to get things started sooner rather than wait to see what does or doesn't transpire with this situation. I appreciate all that Erich is doing for the community. But with the AE woofers finally getting close to being shipped and the Poland horns not far off from shipping, I didn't want to have all that stuff here and ready to go and still not have boxes to put the woofers in. Thanks for all you do Erich!

Erich,

Can you please email me the other thing we discussed via email last night to settle up there? I want to get started on that project asap. It's up to you what you want to do on the excess paypal payment situation. But I want to get rolling today if possible. Thanks and thanks for getting through your backlog of email to respond to my inquires on various items!

Erich, understood for sure. When you know if you have any left, a pm will work if you have time. Thanks.

Awesome Work Erich!

As for the extra cost....like many have mentioned before...we don't mind paying the little extra. The amount of time/effort/work you saved many of us is well worth an extra 5 bucks!

Accessories...With these flat packs which ones are you all recommending to go with say the 4cuft ones?

Urlryn

Erich,

Per your note on the extra cost you incurred on getting the sub boxes out, I'm happy to send more money. I ordered two of the 4 cuft boxes. Just let me know if you need an extra $10 or so for my order.

Again, happy to pay it. Just can't figure out how to pay it. With all of the talk of donating to the "Zilch Fund", we never talk about how to donate to you. I recommend you adding a "Donate to Erich" to the site.

Keep up the great work!

Java

Thanks Erich! Just ordered one of the 3 cu ft boxes!

I need 2 flatpacks for my 15" dayton hf. Could the 4 cu ft flatpacks baffke be cutout for them? I think the 3 cu ft are a little too small for the hf.

Huh? The 3.0 is $20 cheaper than the 4.0, $95 vs. $115, right?

Right, but then why not complain that the 3.0 is only $3 less than the 3.5?! All of these boxes are ridiculous bargains. Subtract the cost of how much you'de pay for a sheet of MDF, and the balance buys you a very well designed and beautifully cut sub enclosure. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth! Speaking of the 3.5, have you made a decision on whether or not to do some, Erich?

UPDATE! Ha, so feel better now, complainer? Erich raised the price on the 4.0 just so you'll feel better about the price of the 3.0!
Edited by BDP24 - 2/16/13 at 11:52pm

Any plans for a 1.5 cu ft flat pack to fit between the 1 and 2 cu ft? Personally I want a 12" surround but the 14.25" depth of the 2 cu ft is to deep for surrounds and the 21" height of the 1 cu ft is to short to put ports. Using the height of the 2 cu ft box and the depth of the 1 cu ft box (14.5"x26"x10.75") would yield about 1.5 cu ft. I could always make own box but a flat pack would be convenient.

Hi EricH;
Any new info on date for the 2.25 cu ft sub box for the 12" Ultimax?
My 12" Ultimax driver on the left is looking fwd to a home :

Erich,

With the higher cost on the 4 cuft...how can I pay you for the difference so your not stuck fronting my shipping costs?

Urlryn

+1

I ordered two 4 cu.ft. boxes, so I owe you too Erich. Let me know how I can get you back.

Thank you for your hard work. These flat packs are idea for someone in my situation.