More Flat Pack Kits Coming. - Page 2

Originally Posted by Erich H 


Of course, changing the .75 like you said will simply make it a 1 cu ft enclosure. I'm sure there will be one of those as well. What exact dimensions were you thinking? A "stubby" 1 cu ft enclosure? Maybe a little bigger so it could be used with some 8" subwoofers as well.

Originally Posted by ASU 

With all the current popularity of the SI 18's and the Dayton 18's was wondering if there was any chance of a 6-6.5 cuft dual opposed flat pack?

Originally Posted by Erich H 

The CNC company has promised me they will be cutting most of the boxes starting this week, and into next week. The dual opposed 18" box will be done, but it's at the end of the run and I'm not sure how many will be made up. I think they come in around 7cuft net. They're mdf. I've got a decent number of Baltic birch samples that we worked on a couple months ago, but I just don't think people will want to pay the premium for it. So right now, it's going to be mdf because that seems to be what most guys have asked me to get made up. It's also easier to finish and smoother all around. And of course keeps the price lower.
There's a good chance for one size to be made out of Baltic birch, and that will be the well braced 4cuft model for the 18" LMS or other overkill woofers. But it uses 1.5 sheets of wood, and after the shipping box and Paypal fees, it will likely be around $150 or more. They haven't given me a definite price yet because I wasn't sure how many were going to be cut. Price varies by how many I can get them to do. But with well over 200 flat packs coming (including the SEOS speaker flat packs), I'm not sure how many of those Baltic birch models I will be able to get made up right now.

Originally Posted by Erich H 

I've got samples in Baltic birch for pretty much everything except the big dual opposed boxes. But after talking with forum members and others asking through emails from the site, I'd guess 85% said they'd rather have mdf to save money and to have the smooth baffles that are easier to finish. Even on the larger boxes, which surprised me.
Some said they would rather have Baltic birch so they can just stain the cabinet and be done. But the cabinets don't have miter joints on the corners, so obviously you can see the plywood layers where the panels meet.
I'll probably still get some Baltic ones made up for the larger single 18" drivers, but it's not going to be a huge number simply due to cost. 20 of them would likely cost around $3000. I'm not sure if I'll get 20 done at first or not. Once they sell, I can always order more. After the initial run and things get worked out and programmed, getting more won't take very long.
If there was a request for at least 10 or so of some specific size or shape, I could likely do it, but I'd have to know pretty soon. The problem is that a lot of people will say what they would like to see done, but most of those people wouldn't actually order anything. And I don't want to be stuck with thousands of dollars worth of boxes that no one really wanted. If you have a different idea, please let me know.

Originally Posted by pgwalsh 

What's the consensus on the dual opposed Dayton 18" HO? Volume etc? I have seen a couple threads, but not many numbers or impressions. I am rather interested in these. I was considering between them and the AE 15 and dual 18" passive design.

Originally Posted by MrSmithers 

Gorilla's are a hair over 7 cubes I believe (after bracing and drivers). I made mine a touch smaller, it's 6.4-6.5 cubes. I think the general consensus has been that anything between 6 and 8 cubes is fine. I went a little smaller due to some of the space/location considerations I had and because I wanted to feel doubly sure about excursion. I think 7 cubes is probably a fine target for a flatpack.

Originally Posted by Erich H 

Does anyone have an 18" SI subwoofer they can send me before the end of next week? Or anyone live near Cincinnati that might have one?

I just need to check and make sure it fits perfectly in a woofer cutout, then I'll send it back. I've got the Dayton 18", and access to the 18" TC Sounds, but not the SI. And I'm not sure I can order one and get it here that fast.

Originally Posted by Erich H 

Yeh, that's why I would really need one to test fit the box. The 4 cuft models, and I believe 3 or 3.5 cuft models are getting started this week. Most of the SEOS and small waveguide boxes were finished up last week and I was told they're going from those directly into the sub boxes. I asked for the 4cuft model to be done first.

I've got all the Dayton RS woofers from 10" up to 18". And the 15" Titanic. I bought the new 10" Ultimax and 12" Ultimax yesterday.

2cuft for 12" Ultimax and maybe the Dayton RS 12" as well.

These are all going to be mdf simply because the price to get that many boxes done in Baltic birch would be too much right now.

Originally Posted by Erich H 

There isn't enough difference between the 4.5 and the 4cuft to warrant doing it. 4.5 cuft is literally only .5" bigger each way.

Originally Posted by Gorilla83 

Erich - What size are the proper screws to mount the DNA360 to the SEOS12? My package had 2 larger screws and 4 smaller ones. The two larger screws fit great, I'm thinking I will pick up 4 more of them. No worries, I can stop at HD tomorrow, just need the right size.

Originally Posted by MrSmithers 

They're M6 IIRC but I can't recall the length.

Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 

Just take the DNA-360 and one of the bolts that fit and then you can match it up. I opened a couple of my DNA-360 boxes and did not see any bolts, so I took the SEOS-12 and the DNA-360 and found bolts to fit. Then when building my third speaker, opened the last DNA-360 box and found the bolts for all three in it.