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Receiver crossover settings, and setup

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I have a Poineer 1019ah-k receiver, and have run the MCACC. As I read and do research I see it is MORE detailed then just running the MCACC. Is there anything I can read or someone could tell me to do a "advanced" set-up?

Reciever:
Poineer 1019ah-k

Speakers:
Yamaha NS-555 for my fronts
Yamaha NS-C444 for my center
Yamaha NS-333 for my rear surrounds
Yamaha NS-C444 for rear center
PA-120 sub
post #2 of 15
What where the MCACC crossover results? What don't you like about the results or why don't you like them?
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
I dont know....i just ran the MCACC and went with it. feel like I should be getting a better sound out of my system....
post #4 of 15
Alright that's a start but now we need to know what crossovers MCACC selected for your speakers. You may need to change them. Some information on the subwoofer settings would also be helpful. I have a question. Was it a mistake that you posted a rear center channel? No one does that anymore and I looked at your receiver and it isn't capable of this. How or why are you doing this?
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
na...not a mistake. I have the system upstairs while I am working on the basement, and using a center channel speaker for rear, and in the manual it says I can use the surround back L channel as a single channel. I will check out the xovers and post em
post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 
my speakers are at 100hz. i cant see any setting for my sub....correction, its xover at 100hz

all my speakers are set to small so all the bass goes to the sub.
post #7 of 15
100hz seems a little high for a crossover for all of your speakers. Especially for your mains. I think 60hz to 80hz would be a good starting point. The same for the center. I don't know Pioneer as well as I know Onkyo receivers. If it has an LPF of LFE setting for the sub that should be set to 120hz if possible. I'm sure others will have some suggestions. What is it that doesn't sound good?
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 
The surrounds, "action" sound.....don't seem to "blend/smooth". It just seems like the surrounds are too low compared to the mains...seems "faint"......doesn't seem like the sounds are part of the movie
post #9 of 15
Did you check to see if the speaker distances are correct? What levels did MCACC set for the channel trim levels? You may need to check them with an SPL meter at the LP.
post #10 of 15
I have the VSX-1121, and set it up through the auto MCACC. It set the eq for all the different speakers, (FR FC FL, SR SL, RSR RSL, sub) all over the map. In each freq band, it might be several dbs up or down, sometimes bands right next to each other would be 4bd up and 3db down. When it was all said and done, it sounded "ok"

TBH, I then went in and manually set the eq curve for each speaker based on what sounded good - starting with the classic u-shaped lows up, mids down and highs up, based on what I felt the speakers could handle. It sounds much better to me. Maybe it's just louder. IDK.

I may give MCACC another chance in a couple weeks time.
post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 
how do u adjust and set the eq...i know how to do it but what is the right way to adjust and set it correctly?
post #12 of 15
G'day eurovw89,

I have the Pioneer 919, and had a lot of fun getting the best out of it. Took me a lot of time, and a lot of forums!!

I would first suggest making sure that your sub's crossover (at the sub!) is set at maximum - otherwise you are going to be creating a hole at your crossover frequency.

I also have my tower fronts set with a 100hz crossover - to me this gives the most balanced sound. I have checked with SPL meter and I had a large dip when crossed over at the (usually) recommended 80hz - trust me, whatever sounds best to you IS best.

Its also possible that your sub is set at the incorrect phase setting - if the sub is out of phase that can result in what sounds like "inconsistent" bass, which makes your sub sound weak in certain frequencies - most likely around your crossover!

The best way to check for this is to play a test tone (get them here at http://www.realtraps.com/test-cd.htm) at your selected crossover frequency and put your head between your subwoofer and your front speaker whilst changing your sub's phase switch settings - whichever setting results in louder sound output is the right one!

Good luck and have fun
post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 
thanks guys/girls.....I ran the MCACC again and did some changes....sounds better...not sure what the hell happened before.

whats up with the eq settings, standing wave, etc....looks pretty damn confusing. how should i change, adjust, set them up...or just leave em alone? I read somewhere that you can fine tune each speaker...????
post #14 of 15
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by eurovw89 View Post

thanks guys/girls.....I ran the MCACC again and did some changes....sounds better...not sure what the hell happened before.


whats up with the eq settings, standing wave, etc....looks pretty damn confusing. how should i change, adjust, set them up...or just leave em alone? I read somewhere that you can fine tune each speaker...????

ok i now got rid of the rear center channel. can anyone please explain to me the eq settings, standing wave, etc.....?

Jeff
post #15 of 15
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1112470/official-pioneer-mcacc-thread wink.gif


I used this thread for mine and had substantial improvments. However, after upgrading my speakers since then, I have found MCACC actually makes them sound WORSE.... even with a lot of playing around and optimising with custom settings. Room EQ can be a crap shoot. Depends on your setup.

Said goodbye to the Pioneer and ordered something higher end instead. Good luck.
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