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post #511 of 601
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

I would count it by this time next year.

November through February is when I'll be watching prices like a hawk.
post #512 of 601
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

November through February is when I'll be watching prices like a hawk.

The "pre-orders" on Provantage and MacMall already have the TC P65VT50 in the mid-2000's.

I'm wondering if it's a mistake. If it's not, Samsung is in big trouble.
post #513 of 601
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Originally Posted by Tempest261 View Post

The "pre-orders" on Provantage and MacMall already have the TC P65VT50 in the mid-2000's.

I'm wondering if it's a mistake. If it's not, Samsung is in big trouble.

You're not kidding! It's got to be a mistake though. I'm not sure how US pricing translates to CN pricing (we always seem to get screwed), but at futureshop.ca, the 2011 TCP65VT30 is currently $3700 CN. It would be quite surprising if the VT50 is less!
post #514 of 601
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Originally Posted by WayneNumm View Post

You're not kidding! It's got to be a mistake though. I'm not sure how US pricing translates to CN pricing (we always seem to get screwed), but at futureshop.ca, the 2011 TCP65VT30 is currently $3700 CN. It would be quite surprising if the VT50 is less!

I wouldn't put it past Panasonic to totally throw a wrench in Samsung and Sony's UPP plans. Think of how many PNxxE8000's will collect dust in the warehouses if these prices wound up being accurate. They'd own the market, for the short term anyhow.
post #515 of 601
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Originally Posted by Tempest261 View Post

The "pre-orders" on Provantage and MacMall already have the TC P65VT50 in the mid-2000's.

I'm wondering if it's a mistake. If it's not, Samsung is in big trouble.

I sure hope so. What Samsung and Sony are trying to do really bothers me.
post #516 of 601
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Originally Posted by Tempest261 View Post

The "pre-orders" on Provantage and MacMall already have the TC P65VT50 in the mid-2000's.

I'm wondering if it's a mistake. If it's not, Samsung is in big trouble.

I wonder how obligated they are to honor that price.
post #517 of 601
I just did live chat and the guy said they would ship it immediately once available. I said if I preorder it now can the price change later , and he said absolutely not. lol I copied the chat to my email, so we will see. Hety last year panasonic messed up and they honored the prices n the gt30. who knows. I got one in just to be safe cause they don't charge till they ship so , why not right.


god bless
post #518 of 601
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Originally Posted by tonyjd40 View Post

I just did live chat and the guy said they would ship it immediately once available. I said if I preorder it now can the price change later , and he said absolutely not. lol I copied the chat to my email, so we will see. Hety last year panasonic messed up and they honored the prices n the gt30. who knows. I got one in just to be safe cause they don't charge till they ship so , why not right.

Provantage charges ~$600 for shipping so the price on the VT50 -- while still good -- isn't so good that I feel the need to jump in and order now.

I am getting more and more tempted to call Chris and Robert and put in a pre-order with one of them, however.
post #519 of 601
Tony, are you referring to MacMall?
post #520 of 601
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post


I sure hope so. What Samsung and Sony are trying to do really bothers me.

It bothers you they are trying to stay in business?

TV divisions in most companies lost money or underperformed.
post #521 of 601
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Originally Posted by Mandrake View Post

Tony, are you referring to MacMall?

Those prices are very low compared to other preorder sites. Is macmall an authorized panasonic dealer?
post #522 of 601
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Originally Posted by Sonyboy View Post

Those prices are very low compared to other preorder sites. Is macmall an authorized panasonic dealer?

You might want to call macmall to verify if they are an authorized dealer. Here is a list - don't know when it was updated:

http://www.panasonic.com/about/view-...-retailers.asp

Panasonic wants to ensure that your experience with our products is outstanding, before, during and after the sale. Whether you purchase from a retail store or online, we want you to have an experience that leaves you completely satisfied; that is the promise of the Panasonic brand. In order to ensure this, we work exclusively with a select group of retailers who have earned the privilege of being an Authorized Panasonic Retailer.

Why buy from an Authorized Panasonic Retailer?

Retailers that are authorized by Panasonic have proven to us that they are committed to delivering a consistently outstanding customer experience, helping you choose the Panasonic product that's right for you. Many can also assist you with delivery and service after you make your Panasonic purchase.

Panasonic includes limited product warranties on its products, but only when the products are purchased from an Authorized Panasonic Retailer. Purchasing Panasonic products from non-authorized retailers can be problematic for you. You may be purchasing product that are counterfeit, used, defective or not designed to properly operate in the United States. We urge our customers to protect themselves by purchasing Panasonic products only from an Authorized Panasonic Retailer, or directly from Panasonic via our website.

The Authorized Panasonic Retailer Difference

When you purchase Panasonic products from Authorized Panasonic Retailers, you can be assured that you are not purchasing products that may have been altered or which don't contain modified serial numbers; purchasing these types of products could void the limited warranty that accompanies Panasonic's products.

In addition, we have been advised that on occasion, non-authorized retailers are offering used Panasonic products as new. As we have no relationship with these companies, if you experience any difficulty with their service, we may be unable to assist you.

Buying Panasonic products from an Authorized Panasonic Retailer, or directly from Panasonic, will assure that you have the best customer experience possible before, during and after the sale.

When you buy from an Authorized Panasonic Retailer, you can be assured that…

...the Retailer is properly trained, so that they can provide the correct answers to your questions
...In many cases, the Retailer can provide assistance to you with the proper setup of your Panasonic purchase
...Authorized Retailers stay informed regarding new technologies, so they can provide information on the latest Panasonic products
...Authorized Retailers have demonstrated a commitment to outstanding customer service and support
...Authorized Retailers can directly contact Panasonic employees, including product managers and customer service team members
...Authorized Retailers receive ongoing product and sales training, ensuring that your purchasing experience is consistently outstanding
...Authorized Retailers have the latest information regarding Panasonic promotions and special offers
...Authorized Retailers will also have access to official accessories for your Panasonic products
...Authorized Retailers only sell factory-fresh Panasonic products with original, unaltered serial numbers
...the full benefits of Panasonic’s limited product warranties will be in effect
post #523 of 601
Before the mods get too angry with all of this price talk, I started this new deals thread that is specific to this 65" VT50 deal.

I also posted my correspondance with Macmall in chat. I got at least a few of our questions answered.
post #524 of 601
The P55VT50 needs a thread
and the preorder $ is unbelievably nice
post #525 of 601
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Originally Posted by David_B View Post

It bothers you they are trying to stay in business?

TV divisions in most companies lost money or underperformed.

Yep, they did.

UPP, however, is not about raising wholesale pricing at all. It's about raising retail pricing of some select retailers (mostly online dealers who sell near wholesale price)

As such, it will provide no additional profit to TV companies. In fact, if it serves to reduce sales of high-end models (which seems likely given the current pricing vs. last year), it might lower profits.

It's a strange fix for the problem.
post #526 of 601
A very strange fix indeed. From a marketing standpoint, based on sales and profits posted during the past two years, their strategy makes no sense at all, unless they have a hidden agenda.
post #527 of 601
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Originally Posted by andy sullivan View Post

A very strange fix indeed. From a marketing standpoint, based on sales and profits posted during the past two years, their strategy makes no sense at all, unless they have a hidden agenda.

I think that they must have data indicating that the B&M's sell substantial profit and if not protected they will continue to decline. They want to place the lines each year and the retailers hold them hostage to some degree.

TIt will probably free a free for all this fall, regardless.

Just a theory.

- Rich
post #528 of 601
It's simple.

Say I'm Best Buy, and a couple of months ago I get down to brass tacks with Samsung and say something like "we see online prices are 20% below ours, we want a 30% wholesale price decrese this year".

Samsung can't afford to lose this much in sales, or be out of the #1 electronic retailer's store, so this is what they do instead.

Samsung will increase profitability by closing plants with excess capacity, or other things like that.

They can't afford to bleed any more money by continualy lowering prices.

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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

I think that they must have data indicating that the B&M's sell substantial profit and if not protected they will continue to decline. They want to place the lines each year and the retailers hold them hostage to some degree.

TIt will probably free a free for all this fall, regardless.

Just a theory.

- Rich
post #529 of 601
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Originally Posted by David_B View Post

It bothers you they are trying to stay in business?

TV divisions in most companies lost money or underperformed.

Their policy cuts the little guy's ability to compete and profit.

What am I missing?

Edited to take the edge off.
post #530 of 601
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

Yep, they did.

UPP, however, is not about raising wholesale pricing at all. It's about raising retail pricing of some select retailers (mostly online dealers who sell near wholesale price)

As such, it will provide no additional profit to TV companies. In fact, if it serves to reduce sales of high-end models (which seems likely given the current pricing vs. last year), it might lower profits.

It's a strange fix for the problem.

The way I see it is they're trying to compete by preserving a reputation that may or may not be salvageable (in Sony's case especially). I'd say that they have their eye on the wrong ball, especially during these economic times.
post #531 of 601
Just FYI, I'm getting some MINOR fluctuating brightness on my UT50 while watching the Lakers game right now.

It's not happening often, but it's happening.

Not happy.
post #532 of 601
I've had the Panasonic ut50 for a little over a week now, amazing picture, but I can't seem to get the screen bright enough in custom mode, unlike vivid mode where the screen is overly bright, I'd like to find a happy medium if anyone has any suggestions please reply! I also was able to get the 3d glasses for it they were $84, the 3d on this tv is amazing, the picture pops right out of the screen.... I absolute love it ! As far as calibration goes I only did the Disney wow because after buying the tv and the glasses I wasn't looking to spend a lot more, but I was able to get the picture dialed in very nice, besides the brightness of the screen being on the dark side especially in warm 2 set it up with the following settings. Custom. Contrast +75 brightness +57 color+58 tint 0 sharpness +15 color temp normal
post #533 of 601
What does it look like if you take Contrast to 90-95?
post #534 of 601
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Originally Posted by Bobbyh300 View Post

I've had the Panasonic ut50 for a little over a week now, amazing picture, but I can't seem to get the screen bright enough in custom mode, unlike vivid mode where the screen is overly bright, I'd like to find a happy medium if anyone has any suggestions please reply! I also was able to get the 3d glasses for it they were $84, the 3d on this tv is amazing, the picture pops right out of the screen.... I absolute love it ! As far as calibration goes I only did the Disney wow because after buying the tv and the glasses I wasn't looking to spend a lot more, but I was able to get the picture dialed in very nice, besides the brightness of the screen being on the dark side especially in warm 2 set it up with the following settings. Custom. Contrast +75 brightness +57 color+58 tint 0 sharpness +15 color temp normal

Very similar to my settings. I have color at 45.
post #535 of 601
And see what it looks like in Warm2
post #536 of 601
Looks like it brightened the screen a little, actually looks pretty good.... Thanks for the reply !
post #537 of 601
Do you have access to pro settings that allows you to set the panel brightness? If so it should be on Medium.
post #538 of 601
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Originally Posted by Haroof View Post

Very similar to my settings. I have color at 45.

Do you have yours set to warm 2 or normal? to me warm 2 seems to make the sky color a little un natural
post #539 of 601
No I don't think I do, if so I don't know where to find it
post #540 of 601
I have a panasonic but not this model. I can't find a manual online, I see it's actually on the tv- dang.

Anyway, I saw something mentioning an eco mode. Try turning that off and see what happens.

What setting options are available in Custom on this set?
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