or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › HDTV › HDTV Programming › 'Survivor: One World' Season 24 on CBS HD
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

'Survivor: One World' Season 24 on CBS HD - Page 9

post #241 of 1025
Dumbest move ever! I now hope that every one of those guys gets voted off one by one. I don't understand why Bill didn't start to align himself with the other "roosters" along with Leif and get rid of Colton or just refuse to go along with giving up immunity.
post #242 of 1025
Quote:
Originally Posted by biker19 View Post

My thoughts were: Leif spilling the beans to Bill was a setup from the get go, along with Tarzan having a fit. The whole thing was set up so Bill would agree to giving up immunity - if Bill had even an inkling that he was going he wouldn't have voted to give up the idol to the girls. Colton has the tribe wrapped around his finger even better than Boston Rob did - well, at least till next week.

I'm not sure about Leif spilling the beans to Bill being thought out ahead of time, but now I'm wondering - was the entire speech at camp about "Leif betrayed us and he has to go" and act just to get Bill to agree to go to TC that night? So all the others stood around and ripped Leif up one side and down the other for Bill's benefit - knowing all along they were actually going to vote bill off? If that's true - it was well played I must say.
post #243 of 1025
These guys make perfect sense. From day 1 it was get rid of Colton he doesn't fit in. Now he is running the tribe. This is one of those situations we really need to see unedited footage.
post #244 of 1025
Quote:
Originally Posted by WaTaGuMp View Post

Did he just call him an annoying little oompa loompa? I cant believe Leif stood there and took it.

He didn't call him that to his face....it was in one of the camera cameos.
post #245 of 1025
Quote:
Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

You think they are that smart .. ??

Yeah, if they had really hatched this elaborate scheme of deception and role playing, the editors completely forgot to show us one single second of them planning it. In fact the lack of interviews implied that the stupidity we were seeing was no more than the stupidity that was happening. It also showed there was no planning going on, just a bunch of idiots forgetting that they're playing a game, not trying to make friends.

The survivors they're casting now are so stupid now that they're voting to have themselves voted off without even being blindsided. Remember when every one of them wanted to go to the end to win a million dollars?

I'd like to thank whoever in the broadcast chain decided that they needed to blur out Alicia's ass drooping out of her hot pants. It was a few episodes too late but at least I don't have to look away from my screen now.
post #246 of 1025
What a bunch of morons. We see the same thing with Colton that we saw with Russell. You get one or two guys willing to impose their will, and they are able to control everything just because nobody wants to become a target. You get 4 or 5 people that are afraid to individually "go against the majority" - but they are their own majority if they'd discuss things with each other.

... I wonder if they required a unanimous decision in order to give away a team immunity?
post #247 of 1025
Quote:
Originally Posted by WaTaGuMp View Post

These guys make perfect sense. From day 1 it was get rid of Colton he doesn't fit in. Now he is running the tribe. This is one of those situations we really need to see unedited footage.

Check out the extra footage at cbs.com. For example you'll find the Matt situation was more complicated -- he really could do math and tried more than what was shown to save himself.

You'll also find out that none of the women knew you had to remove the guts of a chicken before you cook it. They just plucked the feathers off and dropped it into the pot. Where do they find these clueless helpless people?

One good thing about this episode. If the guys had decided to throw the challenge... it would probably still be going on right now.
post #248 of 1025
Quote:
Originally Posted by biker19 View Post

My thoughts were: Leif spilling the beans to Bill was a setup from the get go, along with Tarzan having a fit. The whole thing was set up so Bill would agree to giving up immunity - if Bill had even an inkling that he was going he wouldn't have voted to give up the idol to the girls. Colton has the tribe wrapped around his finger even better than Boston Rob did - well, at least till next week.

Quote:
Originally Posted by scowl View Post

Yeah, if they had really hatched this elaborate scheme of deception and role playing, the editors completely forgot to show us one single second of them planning it. In fact the lack of interviews implied that the stupidity we were seeing was no more than the stupidity that was happening. It also showed there was no planning going on, just a bunch of idiots forgetting that they're playing a game, not trying to make friends.

The survivors they're casting now are so stupid now that they're voting to have themselves voted off without even being blindsided. Remember when every one of them wanted to go to the end to win a million dollars?

I'd like to thank whoever in the broadcast chain decided that they needed to blur out Alicia's ass drooping out of her hot pants. It was a few episodes too late but at least I don't have to look away from my screen now.

To tell you the truth I was thinking about this as well. As fhall1 said, I rather doubt that Leif's mentioning to Bill that he was a target was planned, but I think there just might be credence in the rest of it. It simply made no sense that Bill would have voted to go along with the ridiculous plan to give up the immunity otherwise. And instead of showing no confessionals to drop a hint to the audience, maybe that was just to keep the suspense up to the audience, just like the faceless march into Tribal? It seems like they producers may have done it just to play up the wackiness of the men giving up the immunity. At this point I'm glad they look to be making the shakeup next week as it's all gotten a bit too bizarre and surreal. Let's see how some scrambling will affect things.


ron
post #249 of 1025
Quote:
Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

What a bunch of morons. We see the same thing with Colton that we saw with Russell. You get one or two guys willing to impose their will, and they are able to control everything just because nobody wants to become a target. You get 4 or 5 people that are afraid to individually "go against the majority" - but they are their own majority if they'd discuss things with each other.

... I wonder if they required a unanimous decision in order to give away a team immunity?

It appears that was the case, although they managed to conveniently not reveal it to the audience...


ron
post #250 of 1025
Quote:
Originally Posted by biker19 View Post

My thoughts were: Leif spilling the beans to Bill was a setup from the get go, along with Tarzan having a fit. The whole thing was set up so Bill would agree to giving up immunity - if Bill had even an inkling that he was going he wouldn't have voted to give up the idol to the girls. Colton has the tribe wrapped around his finger even better than Boston Rob did - well, at least till next week.

I'm not sure Leif spilling the beans was a setup.

However, I do think the rant against Leif was a setup and Leif knew it. The object was to secure Bill's agreement to the tribal, then blindside him. Obviously EVERYBODY but Bill knew to vote Bill.

Nevermind. I see fhall1 already advanced the same theory.
post #251 of 1025
Thoughts:

A) - Colton's arrogance & "I run the show" attitude will probably get him in trouble.
It would be different if he felt that way, but kept his arrogance for camera interviews only, & manipulated people more covertly ...
However, it seems to have really gone to his head, & he sits on his throne at camp & shoots his mouth off a bit too much ....

B) - I at least understand ( But may not agree), the wanting to go to tribal thing ....
If anyone has watched Survivor, they should know a week could really change attitudes & alliances ...
Tarzan, Colten ect perhaps felt that Bill, (already knowing he's 'out'), & the little guy sympathizing w/ Bill, should not be given a week to re-group & pull the power away from where 'it is now' ... If alliances changed a week later, Both Tarzan & Colten probably felt they could be blindsided ...
post #252 of 1025
Something another person pointed out is the silliness of the men complaining after the women refused to let them use their fishing net. How women are so "emotional" and "illogical". How you can't reason with women. How they're just too damn stupid to understand male logic. Oh those women!

Then the men demonstrate their mastery of logic by giving their immunity to them for free.

At least they could have asked for the net in exchange for it.
post #253 of 1025
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnS-MI View Post

However, I do think the rant against Leif was a setup and Leif knew it. The object was to secure Bill's agreement to the tribal, then blindside him. Obviously EVERYBODY but Bill knew to vote Bill.

One clue was the terrible acting by (I think) Tarzan, telling Leif he did a "baaaaaad" thing in front of everyone like he was scolding a four year old who had been caught stealing cookies.
post #254 of 1025
Quote:
Originally Posted by scowl View Post

Something another person pointed out is the silliness of the men complaining after the women refused to let them use their fishing net. How women are so "emotional" and "illogical". How you can't reason with women. How they're just too damn stupid to understand male logic. Oh those women!

Then the men demonstrate their mastery of logic by giving their immunity to them for free.

At least they could have asked for the net in exchange for it.

Very good point ...
The men could have gotten almost ANYTHING from the women in exchange for No TC ... Use of boat / net, labor, cooking ....
post #255 of 1025
Until I look at the secret scenes and such I'll reserve final judgment but it certainly seemed like they wanted to portray the men as idiots.This was my initial reaction:
Attachment 239806
LL
post #256 of 1025
Quote:
Originally Posted by scowl View Post

One clue was the terrible acting by (I think) Tarzan, telling Leif he did a "baaaaaad" thing in front of everyone like he was scolding a four year old who had been caught stealing cookies.

So, you're coming around to the idea it was likely planned then? Before you sounded like you just thought they were only casting dummies . I agree about the acting though. Tarzan seems pretty transparent in all his attempts at deception. The apparent outrage at the alliance being "betrayed" just seemed oddly out of place and over the top for the nature of the mistake. And all of Leif's, "Aww, shucks, I really messed up, what can I ever do to make it up." talk just kinda seemed said for effect. But if that was what it was, Bill bought it... It was kind of surprising to hear him say to Leif earlier that he apparently hadn't had any inkling that he was a target the previous week. I guess his strange, loopy happiness at that tribal then was born out of ignorance and wasn't a brave front in the face of possibly going home.


ron
post #257 of 1025
I sooo hope they mix the tribes up next week so Colton can get voted out. That would be poetic justice.
post #258 of 1025
The way this whole bizarre scenario played out. I am now starting to think the show is "scripted". It wouldn't surprise me in the least.
post #259 of 1025
This is the weakest male cast in Survivor history.. they are being Alpha'd by Queen Colton. It was just sad watching him tear down Bill like that and everyone else did nothing. That goofy "Tarzan" didn't know which way was up, he's making a speech for equality at the same time backing up Colton who just s*** all over another person for being a poor standup comic.

They had a chance to get rid of Colton too he never would have suspected a blindside and wouldn't have played the idol. If only the rest of the men had any character and courage.. letting someone like that lead them.. they will never live it down.
post #260 of 1025
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean_O View Post

This is the weakest male cast in Survivor history.. they are being Alpha'd by Queen Colton. It was just sad watching him tear down Bill like that and everyone else did nothing. That goofy "Tarzan" didn't know which way was up, he's making a speech for equality at the same time backing up Colton who just s*** all over another person for being a poor standup comic.

They had a chance to get rid of Colton too he never would have suspected a blindside and wouldn't have played the idol. If only the rest of the men had any character and courage.. letting someone like that lead them.. they will never live it down.

The thing of it is though, it's all very easy to sit on our couches and think/say all of these morally correct things when we're not in the game and have nothing at stake. Do you doubt most if not all of them were having serious conflicted feelings at tribal listening to that BS? Based on his little equality eruption I'm quite sure Tarzan really does detest the hatred around him in the world and now in the game. I'm also pretty sure if he had his druthers he'd not have to play a game with Colton as his ally, despite his calls for others to give him a break (which struck me as simply kissing up to garner favor down the road if necessary). He likely didn't plan or envision it that way but that's the situation he's found/gotten himself in. That's part of the game. And it's also what makes Survivor interesting to watch. People find themselves in positions they normally wouldn't be in and doing/saying things they normally wouldn't. Seeing how people react to those situations is the interesting thing. They really are little self contained social experiments in many ways.


ron
post #261 of 1025
That was the weirdest Survivor episode I've ever seen. How bizarre.
post #262 of 1025
Quote:
Originally Posted by R11 View Post

So, you're coming around to the idea it was likely planned then? Before you sounded like you just thought they were only casting dummies .

I'm now convinced that it was planned but I feel cheated that they purposely edited out the planning, I guess to make it surprising which it wasn't.

I'm not convinced they're not dummies though. There was no reason for Bill to choose to go to tribal council. Even if Bill was so stupid to be completely convinced that Leif was getting the ax for telling him he was next, Bill shouldn't have agreed to go to TC -- Leif was trying to help him! Leif was his only slim chance of getting into an alliance at that moment and Bill knew he would be next anyway.

Same thing for the remains of the muscle alliance. Do they really think that choosing to vote someone from their tribe off would lead to good things for them in the future? That's what Michael or Jay (I get them mixed up) said.

Anyone who had seen the old seasons knows a tribe swap is coming pretty soon and that will change everything. It's also rare for alliance members to vote off fellow members before another alliance has been Pagonged. The whole vote-off-Leif thing sounded suspicious enough to pass on.

Bill wasn't doomed until he agreed to give up tribe immunity.
post #263 of 1025
Quote:
Originally Posted by scowl View Post

I'm now convinced that it was planned but I feel cheated that they purposely edited out the planning....

It didn't strike me while watching it "live" last night that it was planned, but watching it on the DVR with my wife tonight (she watches Idol on Wednesday) with that thought in mind it was pretty obvious that it was . . .
post #264 of 1025
Quote:
Originally Posted by scowl View Post

I'm now convinced that it was planned but I feel cheated that they purposely edited out the planning, I guess to make it surprising which it wasn't.

I'm not convinced they're not dummies though. There was no reason for Bill to choose to go to tribal council. Even if Bill was so stupid to be completely convinced that Leif was getting the ax for telling him he was next, Bill shouldn't have agreed to go to TC -- Leif was trying to help him! Leif was his only slim chance of getting into an alliance at that moment and Bill knew he would be next anyway.

Same thing for the remains of the muscle alliance. Do they really think that choosing to vote someone from their tribe off would lead to good things for them in the future? That's what Michael or Jay (I get them mixed up) said.

Anyone who had seen the old seasons knows a tribe swap is coming pretty soon and that will change everything. It's also rare for alliance members to vote off fellow members before another alliance has been Pagonged. The whole vote-off-Leif thing sounded suspicious enough to pass on.

Bill wasn't doomed until he agreed to give up tribe immunity.

Yeah, a lot of those guys don't seem to be thinking much. It was one thing to band with Colton to cut down the rooster group numbers and gain the solid advantage, but you would think they would see that he's got some stability/control issues and turn right around and at least make an attempt to flush his idol to keep him under control. It's become clear that he's not rational and could decide to go off on any of them at the drop of the hat.

I agree about feeling like the audience got jobbed by the edit on the whole thing too. I can understand what they were probably thinking since blindsides happen often and no team had ever given up immunity before. But I would have much rather seen the behind the scenes wheeling and dealing going on before tribal instead of the "big reveal" that wasn't of any consequence anyway.


ron
post #265 of 1025
Do you guys really think this show is not scripted? I mean there is no way what happened would have really happened without a script.

Since when does one queen have so much influence over a whole tribe of men? That just doesn't happen. Real men would have got together and voted pretty panties right out and not looked back.
post #266 of 1025
^ As has been mentioned before, things are a lot different when you are hungry, hot, cold, stressed living in a jungle than in the comfort of your couch.
post #267 of 1025
DUMBEST TRIBE EVER!!

Colton is officially the most irritating contestant..as if he wasn't weeks ago!

I have a Survivor first idea: kick Coloton off and bring back Russell! Russell, who is now my 2nd all-time least fav contestant, was much less abrasive than Mr. Monroeville! Quit denying your racism Mr. Rainbow Warrior! UGH!


Quote:


Do you guys really think this show is not scripted? I mean there is no way what happened would have really happened without a script.

and Michael didn't reallllly fall into the fire in Australia. Its allllllllllllllllll rigged. Yawn.
post #268 of 1025
How is Colton still alive? Not in the game, but in life?
post #269 of 1025
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dooder View Post

Do you guys really think this show is not scripted? I mean there is no way what happened would have really happened without a script.

Since when does one queen have so much influence over a whole tribe of men? That just doesn't happen. Real men would have got together and voted pretty panties right out and not looked back.

Plus they know he has the immunity idol, for whatever reason that always changes people and they fear to vote the person with the idol.

I do not think it is scripted. If it was, I think it would of gotten out by now and reported. Someone would of spilled the beans by now and the show would of gotten in trouble because being scripted would mean they are not a reality show.
post #270 of 1025
Quote:
Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

Plus they know he has the immunity idol, for whatever reason that always changes people and they fear to vote the person with the idol.

I do not think it is scripted. If it was, I think it would of gotten out by now and reported. Someone would of spilled the beans by now and the show would of gotten in trouble because being scripted would mean they are not a reality show.

Well if is not scripted, even small parts of a story line, these has to be the dumbest men in America. The thought of a drama queen running these "men" is an embarrassment to every male walking this earth. They should be ashamed to face their families after this travesty.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: HDTV Programming
AVS › AVS Forum › HDTV › HDTV Programming › 'Survivor: One World' Season 24 on CBS HD