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You got that right. That is why I think his "character" was designed by the producers. Guys like that don't last on the streets where I come from.

My guess (and I have no real information) is that his parents may have used their wealth to shelter and isolate him from the rest of society when he grew up. Perhaps they were afraid their homosexual son would get picked on in a small Alabama town and that would shatter him. He expects absolute control over who is near him at all times and treats all people like the hired help he enjoyed at home. That sounds to me like a kid who spent a lot of time in his bedroom.

I still want to believe that his behavior is an act and we'll find out he's nothing like this in real life at the reunion, or maybe he'll continue the act. Probst has been dying to cast another Johnny Fairplay villain for years and years and Super Secret Federal Agent Phillip was a step towards casting people with questionable backstories. No one has found any independent information on a Colton Cumbie from Monroeville, Alabama that I've seen so far.

When you can't control the cold or the heat or the food and the only control you have is which people you get rid of, you tend to get rid of the most irritating people first since they are the only irritating thing that you can do anything about.

But what is "irritating" is highly subjective. And highly dependent on who does it. People will excuse all kinds of highly obnoxious behavior from people they like while in the same breath berating trivialities form people they don't like.

In this case, I can't figure out why Bill fell on the wrong side of the line while Colton fell on the right side of the line. Makes me wonder what might have been edited out because Bill certainly seemed a lot more likable than Colton. But perhaps all of Colton's comments in TR will change the equation.

No denying that, hands down the stupidest group of guys I have seen on a show like this. Just amazing they didn't do anything when they had the chance or row him out to sea and.....

Just think... they unanimously chose to vote one of their own members out. This wasn't an alliance within a tribe throwing a challenge to weaken another alliance. This was an entire tribe choosing to weaken their entire tribe with no strategic goal in mind.

Why doesn't one of these knuckleheads start to wonder why the women gave Colton that idol? He's going to extreme measures to destroy the men's tribe and protect the women's tribe, yet these dumb men (as far as we know) haven't begun to suspect that Colton made an alliance with the women in exchange for the idol during the many hours he was spending at their camp. Maybe they figger women ain't smart enough to pull a fast one on 'em like that.

Funny how people were talking about how dumb the women are a few weeks ago. This week they even wisely decided to take the tarp after the reward challenge. Is it any surprise that they found an idol and the men haven't even tried.

Lots of people are declaring Colton the most hated person in the history of reality television. For me, no human being will ever beat Puck from Real World season three.

hes a star in the making....

I can see the teaser for a future episode-"First time on Survivor, a contestant dies in their sleep of natural (?) causes. Who knew Colton need oxygen to sustain life?"

BTW IMO Chelsea the pharma rep aka dealer will win. Probably just wishful thinking on my part.

Nah, sitting back and listening to that kind of crap is one thing, but speaking up in defense of the person saying it is another. Tarzan could have just as effectively "played the game" by saying nothing at all.

Then again he's a weak old man who likely doesn't have a better ally in the game (from his persepctive) than little Queen Colton.

So enough about that for me, and looking forward to seeing both Colton and Tarzan sent home.

Clearly I am not alone in saying this, but this is clearly the dumbest move in Survivor history. The sheer amount of stupidity to give away an idol is amazing. Then to allow yourself to be lead by some one like Colton is mind boggling.

Exactly. That is why I think something isn't on the up and up.

Very disappointed as Survivor used to be the only true reality show. I feel they have gave in and are just poorly directing the players to make these unrealistic calls for a shock value!

Went From the original reality show to as fake as the rest...

I'm not so much annoyed at the guys going to tribal as I am that to this day people are still so stupid as to not see when they are being led and don't get rid of said "leader." How friggin' hard is it to just vote him out or at the very least make him play the idol so he has no more pull?

And what the hell was up with that vote? Only Colton wanted Bill gone and the rest were set on Leif, yet everyone voted for Bill.

Oh, and I don't remember if it was Leif or Bill who said it, but one of them mentioned needing to find an immunity idol. Hey dummy, didn't Colton tell you the women found one and had to give it to the men? Use whatever little brain cells you have to figure out you would have to do the same if you found one as well.

LOL. It's always funny when a new round of "Survivor's fake" cries come out of the woodwork. The show is edited to make things appear how the producers want it to in order to fit their story lines, but the players are acting on their own. Did you know? Man never stepped on the Moon either! It was all a big government conspiracy!



This is where the editing did a disservice to the viewers IMO. Clearly there was much more going on behind the scenes that the audience was not shown, simply to play out the "suspense" of the Big Team Immunity Giveaway. We were only shown that Colton wanted Bill gone and none of the resulting scheming afterward of them apparently hatching a plan to blindside Bill by making it appear that Leif was the target due to his Terminally Massive Transgression of accidentally letting it slip to Bill that he had been a target. The final vote makes it pretty clear that there was a plan in place.


ron

The problem with the editing was that it didn't create any suspense -- it left no doubt that Leif was going home. The only entertainment value we expect to see was watching a bunch of guys justifying doing the stupidest thing in Survivor history. Are they forgetting to boil their water before they drink it?

This editing was supposed to have a "shocker" ending when we saw that Bill was voted out, except it wasn't much of a shocker since Colton wanted him out since the first half hour the season started. Even Bill wasn't shocked.

But if the material to create a suspenseful TC wasn't there, I guess they have to opt for editing up a shocker TC like this one.

^^Opt for editing= scripting......Editing is scripting on survivor especially when scenes are reshot

Worse, give away an idol in exchange for nothing!

Gentlemen... take the spooky immunity idol to the women. Give them a sob story about how you're all starving to death and you need that boat and/or net so badly that you've agreed to throw someone under the bus for it. Tell them it's Jonas because they were counting on him to get the net, but you smart women saw right through his transparent passive-aggressive act (like everyone else who was watching). Or tell them it's Michael because his nasty ax-stealing ways they saw were just the beginning of his back-stabbing ways. If you're getting rid of someone they don't like, they might be willing to reward you for it.

Don't do what they did: tell them that your tribe is falling apart, you need to ditch a guy you don't like, and you hope that you'll do them a solid by taking the idol, pretty please.

Which scenes were reshot in this episode? The only ones I know of in the past have been close ups during challenges and idol discoveries. They were restaged on the same day the actual event happened. They do not change what really happened.

People who have worked on the show have talked about how it's often difficult to create a sensible episode sometimes. They usually have too much of something they don't need while one or two important elements they need are missing. They can't "script" anything because they don't edit episodes until days or weeks after the footage was shot.

I am going to exaggerate to make the point. When they show someone do a head roll or someone having some verbal some reaction to something, many times it took place at 2 in the morning a week before. They then edit that back into some other time and place for effect. In a sense they are changing reality into scripting after the fact. MOst often we are not seeing what is actually going on due to what you mention about difficulty of having more of one and less of another. They do retake shots right at the time and place it happened if the shot was missed...that is scripting regardless if the event happened or not, simply due to the fact it is reshot. It isn't the actual event happening, but a retake of the event and that what is done when people act in plays, movies, etc...they are reenacting scenes, hence scripts. Its just more subtle on survivor and it is only a single digit % of the entire show, but that is enough with editing to make the show seem one way as opposed to another. THis last episode was the pinnacle of how editing/scripting is used on survivor, so much that what many saw and believed to be true most likely wasn't, hence most saying WTF happened and the editing was misleading.

To my eyes the edit was supposed to sustain two question marks: 1) Whether or not the guys would actually give up immunity (as evidenced by them not revealing which team was coming into tribal until they were right there), and 2) to hide the fact that Bill was the actual target. The first one I think was pretty much of a waste because even the edit didn't seem to try to hide it so it seemed a foregone conclusion. On whether Bill or Leif was going home I think they were pretty successful up until the questioning at TC when it became apparent that Bill was out. Based on reactions to the episode many people still thought Leif was going home all they way up until the vote was revealed even. And I think Bill had to have been fooled prior to tribal. Why else would he have ever agreed to go along with giving up the team immunity if he thought he was going home? After the ep you even appeared to think there was no planning at all going on leading up to tribal as well...



It's like the edit was showing the viewers the goings on from Bill and the Women's perspective, since they were the people that the rest of the guys were attempting to pull a fast one on. But since it pretty much came out during the TC questioning anyway, I think it would have been more interesting to have seen some of the planning aspect before tribal instead.


ron

Editing or scripting, it is poorly done.

Like I stated before, these "men" are sad excuses for jock strap wearers everywhere.

Maybe their testosterone level was edited out.

Just listened to the portion of the EW podcast where they interviewed Bill on the phone about his booting (from about 9 min-23 min). He sounds a bit wishy washy in his explanation, but says he thought the group plan was Leif, but that he thought he had talked several others into blindsiding Colton instead. Said once he got to tribal and no one stood up with him on it, he still figured it probably was just going to be Leif then. Doesn't sound like he was expecting to go either way. As far as why he agreed to the immunity in the first place, he said he figured he'd be likely to go the next week anyway (even saying something about thinking the tribe was capable of throwing a challenge to do it?....), so he figured he'd try to go out with a bang by attempting to get Colton out instead right away.

The most interesting thing were his comments about why he thought people were letting Colton stay in control, which was that he felt they just didn't care as long as it wasn't them on the block. I think he's right on that. I'm sure many of them would like to see Colton out because he's so unlikable, but as long as they're safe for the time being and off the radar it just hasn't been the priority.

http://pdl-stream.timeinc.net/EW/pod...3_08_12_dl.mp3


ron

I don't think this show is scripted; rather, those guys really are THAT stupid. Amazing that they can make it through their lives...

Yes, that's the "shocker" edit. I suddenly have this theory that all Survivor episodes have to be edited to either start the TC giving the viewer no idea what will happen, or end in a "shocker" ending if they don't have enough conflicting footage to confuse the view enough before the TC starts. They'd rather start it with confusion but they'll take the shocker if they have to.


Here's what I don't understand. Bill was toast before the TC started. Why continue the charade of Leif getting voted out in the TC? Why not say Leif messed up, the alliance forgives him, we're going to boot Bill, and nothing will change that... so let's vote! If anything could be accused of being scripted, it's the two hours of TC where they desperately need something interesting to fill the end of the episode.

"Say, guys? This "Bill's gone" talk won't give the viewers anything they'll want to watch. Could you pretend that you might not vote Bill out for a few minutes? And, Tarzan, could you tell America your views on racism from a dumb white guy perspective? Thanks!"

What happens? Do they get dragged behind a pick-up by homophobic animals?

Your apparent attitude disgusts me.

I dislike Colton very much also, but his sexual preferences have nothing to do with it. I don't like him because HE is being shown as a bigoted self aggrandizing ass-hat.

Do you really think he wouldn't behave the same way (including the constant eye rolling and neck rolling and other "mannerisms") if he wasn't ultra-gay?

But sometimes when there's a particularly outspoken player (some might say undisciplined), like say Brandon Hantz, that does happen. He always just came out and said what was going on even if his team mates would have rather he hadn't. Usually though, my guess is that because they have been attempting to blindside someone, they probably want to see it through all the way to the end so they can sit there and watch the poor sucker deflate as the votes are read .


ron

Plenty of straight people are serial eye rollers. So you're saying you hate him just due to his mannerisms then? His flamboyance doesn't really bother me. It's the fact that he's an elitist, stuck up little jack ass that does it

Edit: meant to add, the new ep promo touting Colton as "the new Super Villain" controlling things doesn't bode well. And the ep title this week (A Bunch of Idiots) just throws gas on the fire


ron

What really intrigues me is the need for the unanimous vote. Did the tribe go to the producers and ask if it had to be unanimous or did they concoct that to see how many wafflers they had on their tribe ? Maybe I missed something here that wasn't shown or I haven't read it yet.
Mike and Jay weren't convinced but they were part of the old Frat Boy alliance that was being targeted so their consent makes sense.
Was this the worst Survivor move ever? Maybe, maybe not. Usually that discussion is over a move that results in a person getting blindsided or a whole tribe getting Pagonged. In this case the intended target went home.
I'm still conflicted about the edit but Bill was toast before this episode since he was going after Matt. I think the edit and the whole episode was to show what dbag Colton is and set him up for his downfall but we'll see.
With a tribal swap looming tomorrow should be interesting.

The previews they started airing imply that Colton is going to thrive in the mixed sex tribes. I hope that isn't the case. The merge is certainly better for the frat boys, snce the misfits were going to pick them off one by one.

The women didn't seem all that enamored with Colton when he was lounging around their camp all the time so I hope they have the smarts to blind side him when they get the chance.

What about Colton constantly rolling his tongue around his lips? It bugs me and I don't think it's a gay thing. I've never seen any of the gay men I know do that.