'Survivor: One World' Season 24 on CBS HD - Page 29

Contrast that with this year where instead of two wackos, you've only got two people with basic intelligence and strategic common sense .... and one of them was the wacko Colton.

I think the show needs to go back to its roots of the first several years. Now it's more like a beach party w/ limited refreshments and food.

Still waiting for the first person to severely cut themselves swinging a machete at a coconut held in their hand.

Yes, we all did. She has had chronic heart problems since she was a child.


The question is whether or not they're casting people who are provably not physically and/or mentally able to cope with the stress they'll be subjected to in order to compete with other contestants. Kat not only had a heart condition (she says she'll need another operation soon) but even a rudimentary interview would have shown she was not going to handle being on Survivor thus had absolutely no chance of winning. You think there is no way to predict this but do you really think you would have had no clue that woman-child had no chance of winning Survivor? There are countless methods to judge a person's ability to cope with stress which employers use every day.

I know that reality game shows are not bound by any ethical laws like other professionals are so they're free to do anything to anyone who signed a contract as long as they don't break laws. I just wonder if they're casting unqualified contestants so we can enjoy watching them fail and mentally collapse instead of casting smart people so we can watch them compete. After casting Jimmy Johnson in Nicaragua resulted in a big yawn, the show has cast some lunatic or pea-brain every season to get people talking about the show again. Watching seasons 1-7 was so much more fun than watching the dopes they're casting now.

But say that her preexisting heart condition caused her to collapse during a challenge. Would you say "more power to her"? I'd say "what morons cast a person with a heart condition?"

I know a college basketball player who was minutes from dying because she had a undiagnosed heart condition. Her team had to perform CPR on her to save her life.

Well .... it's nice to see somebody willing and proud to risk the lives of their fellow travelers on the road ....

... Perhaps one should think twice before posting???? ... just sayin' ...

You're right. I should have been more specific in saying he played the best strategic game. Yes, I know it's an overall thing with strategy and social, but to me strategy holds more weight than social. That's why I felt he deserved it more than Natalie who did nothing but look cute and ride his coattails.


But that's neither here nor there. I'd like to get everyone's thought's on this quote I made previously.

@Tom Imp, you may have a point about Alicia. I think the audience generally dislikes her, but I don't think we've seen much evidence that the other players dislike her. She seems to have had times where she's been contentious and relatively annoying at tribal counsel though.

The cruelty that Alicia (and Colton) displayed with Christina can't be an isolated incident. If you have that level of meanness in you, it's hard to hide. Then again, Alicia could be this season's Sandra Diaz.

When Kim was going over strategy with her sister she said that Alicia would be a good candidate for final 3 because no-one likes her and she is delusional (that she is liked?)

Also before the moron men's team gave up immunity to get rid of Bill, Alicia was probably the one to go. As mentioned above, I can't believe her vicious streak against Christina is an isolated incident.

It's not that you do it ... it's that your willing to admit it in a public forum ... and yes all those "people" in cars are even more dangerous to those around them.

It's kind of like saying, "Hey guys, I have a six pack and get behind the wheel every day." ... I'm not sure that's something to be "boastful" about.

Just watched all of the Ponderosa videos. One of them really made me think, they wouldn't be in the situation they are in if they didn't make the idiotic move of going to tribal and lose one of their numbers. Jonas is going to town making Sushi etc.

Ponderosa videos? Are these on the CBS site or something?

I haven't really followed the "out of show" content that CBS has been doing - mostly because it usually fails after one try...

Yes.

http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/

I still remember back in the early days of the show when TRUE celebs (like Kobe) wanted to go on the show! NOW that would still be awesome and would kick the ratings back up!

This week's council will go down as one of my top 3 favs ever!

Only two people with basic intelligence and strategic common sense? Really? I think you underestimate a number of the players this season.




No, you may not have known about it but many of us (including the producers) knew about Kat's heart issues long before the show started. Since you are ignoring the point of my post you replied to so I'll say it again, all the players undergo health screening prior to being cast on the show. They knew full well about Kat's past medical history and determined it was NOT a problem or they wouldn't have cast her, just like they didn't with JJ before he got himself into better health and condition. Bringing this red herring "issue" up as some kind of slam against the producers is just silly.

As far as her mental outlook goes, as I said before, I think many viewers underestimate the stress of the situation being in the game and the producers can never really tell exactly how a particular person will react until they are out there. I'm quite sure they don't purposely look for candidates who will fail. For one thing when ever someone quits it creates problems for them in their production, and beyond that I have no doubt that they have a higher ethic than that (unlike some of the other more raw, sensationalistic reality shows).

I don't think they do full blown personality testing but I know they do have all the candidates go through several Q&A interviews designed to try to determine whether they would be good contestants or not. My impression has been that they look for a cross section of players to try to maintain some interesting viewing, often looking for bigger, interesting personalities as opposed to the quiet types. But that obviously doesn't always work either as some of them turn out dull anyway and others end up being way over the top loonies...



Apparently mgkdragn's point didn't catch with you. People undergo medical treatments to make themselves better. Just because someone has had medical conditions treated/repaired doesn't mean they can't function normally again. Are you trying to say anyone who has suffered any kind heart treatment should never drive on public roads? About five years ago I had a stent put in one of the arteries in my heart and two weeks later I hiked an eight day, 47 mile, 10,000' elevation gain/loss solo pack trip with 70 lbs on my back. Amazingly enough, I'm still able to drive myself around to this day


Based on the program guide blurb for tonight, it sounds like someone's going to get "creative". Wonder who that would be?




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You have to wonder why the other women are willing to go to an F3 with Kim. Are they happy with 2nd and third place money or are there things we don't know about Kim that might lead to her losing? So far she seems to be well liked and it is hard to say how those men will vote since they basically put themselves on the jury.
As far as Kat goes,I thought she was kinda goofy and immature but certainly not a basket case like blubbering Hantz was last season. I had no problem with her competing with her physical condition. Keith from last season had a pacemaker and it didn't seem to be a big deal.
Maybe Tarzan will cross-dress tonight.

Just not that interesting.

Tarzan screwed himself. Amazing how Kim was able to basically tell Chelsea she may have to be cut loose, and Chelsea was cool w/it. Christina... wow.

Sabrina really showed her strength tonight at TC, better watch out for her.

Wrong. But apparently you missed my point.


Well, I'm sure that will be a great consolation to the family that gets wiped out when his heart explodes at 70mi/hr and he and his Harley become an uncontrolled missile on the 405 (Theoretically speaking.) But I'm glad that you and he are overcoming your personal challenges. The rest of us will just have to remain hypervigilent.

PS: Did you know that pilots have to pass an annual physical (and probably random drug/alcohol testing depending on commercial vs. private) to retain their licenses? Are we saying that flying is inherently more dangerous than driving on surface highways? Because the statistics don't support that assumption. Are you saying we should let 85yr old recovered stroke victims with afib continue to drive ... indeed, where do we the line. Just saying.

I had to do a double take when I saw christina, wow she looked amazingly hot. Didn't even recognize her. And Kat looked gorgeous after a night at ponderosa.

Poor tarzan, he went to far trying to play everyone. Do you think at ponderosa the guys are sitting there wondering how they all got voted out? What a bunch of idiots.

Christina: Absolutely . . .

Kat: She looked classy, but still has no class . . .

Blame that one on "Hey, let's give away immunity to the girls" . . .

Yeah I can't wait for the reunion show and watching Jeff call out Colton for that decision.

No. No, no, no.

Christina is much closer to Sandra IMHO. She seems to have adopted the "anybody but me" strategy that Sandra played nearly perfectly, to win, twice.

Alicia seems to be playing the "I'm in charge" strategy Russell played to non-winner status, twice.

Are you a former contestant in this game? How would you know if viewers are underestimating the stress? Unless you have played or are somehow closely involved with producing the show, you could just as easily be overestimating the stress. How are you so sure that producers don't look for candidates who will fail? After all, the losers are often times more interesting than the winners.


I guess that depends on your definition of "full blown personality testing". I have a family friend who is a psychologist and consulted for Mark Burnett Productions for years. The final round of casting involves psychological evaluations. It is definitely more than just a simple casting Q&A.

most definitely

They at least get the standard batch of psychological and personality tests (IQ, MMPI-2, etc.). It's not clear these days what they do with the results of these tests. Since they don't have to follow ethics, I figure they only use them on getting an appealing cast, not on how well the cast members will hold up during the show.

In the early seasons the producers were worried that someone would mentally collapse or sabotage the game or do something they hadn't predicted (there is a book on the first season that goes into great detail about this). They were absolutely freaked by Greg's bizarre behavior during the first season. They couldn't tell if he was playing around for the cameras (talking into the "coconut phone") or the stress had induced real schizophrenic symptoms. He didn't cooperate with the producers when they asked him what the hell he was doing. They didn't like him mocking their show when he got voted off and they thought his "pick a number" jury question was him again mocking their supposedly serious television game show. Their goal of testing future cast members (at least at that time) was to make sure that no one like Greg ever got on their show ever again.

After that season they did everything they could to cast predictable and reliable (or at least obedient) people who understood the show, would follow the producers' directions and wouldn't cause trouble. As the seasons have gone by, it looks like they've taken more risks in casting people. Maybe they've gotten really good at screening out potential ax murderers (Colton is still alive) or the cast is under a lot less stress. Their goal now is probably to screen out quitters like Naonka and Blue Kelly since they suck for ratings. Or maybe they've taught cast members how to fake an appendicitis if they want to quit.