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post #1351 of 1651
Would like to know if we can use other media player firmware like the himedia hd900b or Mede8er MED1000X3D check out this link http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php/topic,8928.0.html look like they got the shutter 3d problem fix.If we can use the other firmware then update with back button with pin hole upgrade with player from cold start. Thanks for all the help.
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Re: Feedback for -- V1.0.3 -- 17Oct 2012 XX OPEN BETA XX for MED1000X3D
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2012, 11:08:28 am »
We think we understand a bit more about what is going on. The video and audio use different clock rates. Depending upon the clock rates both pipelines will only be periodically aligned on a whole number of audio and video packages. These act like bus timing points..and the pipelines are re-syncked. 23.976 is a problem as currently the internal clock isn't generating a value close enough to make the re-syncing transparent. The re-synking occurs ever 40 or so seconds.

The re-synking happens with all video media..but normally the errors are so small you don't notice.


Making the 23.976 clock more accurate is being looked into. The use of 24hz instead of 23.976hz is not the problem. The chips do indeed have a 23.976 mode.
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Re: Feedback for -- V1.0.3 -- 17Oct 2012 XX OPEN BETA XX for MED1000X3D
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2012, 11:08:28 am »
We think we understand a bit more about what is going on. The video and audio use different clock rates. Depending upon the clock rates both pipelines will only be periodically aligned on a whole number of audio and video packages. These act like bus timing points..and the pipelines are re-syncked. 23.976 is a problem as currently the internal clock isn't generating a value close enough to make the re-syncing transparent. The re-synking occurs ever 40 or so seconds.

The re-synking happens with all video media..but normally the errors are so small you don't notice.


Making the 23.976 clock more accurate is being looked into. The use of 24hz instead of 23.976hz is not the problem. The chips do indeed have a 23.976 mode.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2012, 11:15:54 am by jer1956 »

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post #1353 of 1651
Very interesting. I hope this can lead to a fix for that stutter. I would also like to know if other firmware can be run on this. I wonder how that would work since our remotes are different - would our Micca remotes still work if the machine is running Measy firmware?
post #1354 of 1651
tried it..................Micca wont even boot using medi8er firmware............

himedia firmware works just fine....almost better, really !
Edited by isolar801 - 10/25/12 at 12:43pm
post #1355 of 1651
Yeah I wish someone would port the bootloader for HiMedia or Micca to work with the Med8er Firmware. I know they did this for older chipsets.
post #1356 of 1651
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Originally Posted by giddy169 View Post

Yeah I wish someone would port the bootloader for HiMedia or Micca to work with the Med8er Firmware. I know they did this for older chipsets.

That was before Mede8er learned the lesson that they need to lock down their code. Otherwise you have people buying cheaper boxes and not supporting the company that has actually put all the work into the software end. After all, if they don't sell boxes they'll be out of business.
post #1357 of 1651
I just got Debian installed in the Micca EP950 in a chroot on the hard disk. I don't yet know what I am going to use that to do. I used cdebootstrap-static and put that and the few extra files with the debian keyring in the /data directory. I also used an extra busybox to provide sha1sum, md5sum and gunzip for the bootstrapping. The install went smoothly after those were ready. This wasn't too easy to get working yet not really that difficult for anybody experienced with linux. Now I have a lot of extra programs available and could even do some mipsel development if I wanted to work a lot. I can't do very much with the Micca video software because the main programs used for most purposes are monolithic and mysterious. The player still works while I am logged into the chroot so that is nice. So this is probably just a bigger toy.

My next idea is to copy the system from the read-only memory to the read-write memory in /data and then chroot into that. I think that has potential because I couldn't get ldconfig or fsck to work at all in the Micca without a writable /etc directory.
post #1358 of 1651
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Originally Posted by mods41 View Post

I just got Debian installed in the Micca EP950 in a chroot on the hard disk. I don't yet know what I am going to use that to do. I used cdebootstrap-static and put that and the few extra files with the debian keyring in the /data directory. I also used an extra busybox to provide sha1sum, md5sum and gunzip for the bootstrapping. The install went smoothly after those were ready. This wasn't too easy to get working yet not really that difficult for anybody experienced with linux. Now I have a lot of extra programs available and could even do some mipsel development if I wanted to work a lot. I can't do very much with the Micca video software because the main programs used for most purposes are monolithic and mysterious. The player still works while I am logged into the chroot so that is nice. So this is probably just a bigger toy.
My next idea is to copy the system from the read-only memory to the read-write memory in /data and then chroot into that. I think that has potential because I couldn't get ldconfig or fsck to work at all in the Micca without a writable /etc directory.

Why not unpack the Ollyp firmware that is used for the HD900B and tinker with that smile.gif

Bill
post #1359 of 1651
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

Why not unpack the Ollyp firmware that is used for the HD900B and tinker with that smile.gif
Bill

I tried Olly firmware for a while and was very impressed. There are some very nice features added. I had the same problem with HiMedia, Olly and several Micca firmware installs crashing because of the UPnP tab and decided to keep trying to find the problem on my own.

I am still just beginning to look at the way the player works. So far I have made minor changes in the Micca firmware with very little affect. I suppose I would like to simplify the firmware installation by removing unnecessary bloat instead of adding more things I won't use. There are still a lot of things I don't understand and probably never will. I can look at the changes in the Olly firmware to see where the work was done and that is helpful. I didn't plan to do anything with the user interface where Olly made a lot of changes and where I am still very confused.

I am waiting for the new Micca release of the firmware based on the SDK2 and hope the problem is finally fixed. What I am doing now is just practice and exploration.

I might try Olly firmware again if there is a new version based on SDK2. Olly did a lot of things way beyond my ability and I wonder if he will ever return.

Edit1: My newest idea is to copy the read only /system directory to a read-write /data/system2 and then change the link /etc to /data/system2/etc so that would become read-write. I could relink the /bin, /sbin and /lib directories also. If that works I might be able to unmount the /system directory entirely and link /system to /data/system2 also. That would be tricky. With this approach I wouldn't need to chroot and the player would feel the changes. I can't do anything with a read-only filesystem except rebuild the firmware and that is a lot of trouble.

Edit2: I might have to move the /data/system2 mentioned above to /system or the paths might get confused.

Edit3: The copy of /system worked except I can't unmount or move /system because of the "Device or resource busy" error. I did get a read-write /etc at least so that is progress.

Edit4: Next I want to try to get the Micca to run off my hard disk sdb3 instead of inside the flash disk. That is standard linux ext4 instead of squashfs and yaffsfs and seems to be much faster when I chroot now to sdb3. Maybe pivot root is better than chroot. I think there is a way because flash disks have a lot of problems and compressed file systems have a lot of overhead. I am still learning to do these operations.

Edit5: I haven't gotten pivot_root to work yet. That should do what I want if it works. I am still having problems because so much of the OS is running Android. I just don't want to learn Android so there is a lot I can't do with the Micca.
Edited by mods41 - 10/27/12 at 9:28am
post #1360 of 1651
Crashing UPNP Problem Solved!

This problem seems to have been caused by my LAN setup. The problem with the Micca EP950 crashing when using the UPnP tab seems to have been caused by my Dish Network VIP 211K satellite receiver.

The 211K had found a way to sneak onto the internet and appeared in the UPnP tab along with my Serviio DLNA service. The VIP 211K must have a built in broadband to powerline adapter. The 211K was not connected to the internet with the ethernet connector at all and was only plugged into the 120V AC power. The receiver must have connected to the internet through a nearby Netgear powerline-ethernet adapter used for my Samsung BluRay Player with internet capability. The Samsung was used to connect to the Serviio through the Netgear powerline adapter and my Dlink router.

So both the Serviio and the VIP 211K would appear in the UPnP tab of the Micca and then the Micca would crash when exiting the UPnP tab. Choosing the VIP 211K with the Samsung or the Micca showed no content. I wonder if the VIP 211K was causing some of the problems with the Samsung also.

I used the router to block the VIP 211K by its mac address. Now the Micca has not crashed since then. Selecting the Serviio in the UPnP works properly and exiting the UPnP finally works properly without crashing the Micca. I must have been the only person with this problem. My apologies to Micca for having this problem.

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post #1361 of 1651
That is an odd problem to say the least, congrats on sorting it out. Strange the the Dish unit showing up caused the Micca to crash, my DTV box shows up and I have never had an issue backing out of my TVersity server.


Bill
post #1362 of 1651
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

That is an odd problem to say the least, congrats on sorting it out. Strange the the Dish unit showing up caused the Micca to crash, my DTV box shows up and I have never had an issue backing out of my TVersity server.
Bill

The Dish receiver is a mystery to me. There shouldn't have been a problem even if the broadband was connected to the router. Maybe they violate the UPnP standard.

I plan to try OllyP firmware again while I am waiting for the newest Micca firmware. I have seen where there are some extras I wasn't aware of before and where Olly has solved some problems that had bothered me. There were numerous errors "init: untracked pid xxx exited" found with my first try and I might try to fix some of those.

I plan to add e2fsck, gdisk and iwconfig. I don't like the android vold automounter so am switching to the /etc/fstab like OllyP for the sata because the vold always mounts my ext4 partitions as ext3. I would also like to tweak the volume labels to sdb1 and sdb4 etc instead of G: and F: etc so I always know what I am doing with my 3TB disk.

I can't get the ad-hoc wireless to work yet with the Setup menu on the Micca. There is no setting for the channel required. I would like to install hostapd to enable the Micca as an access point or wireless nas for use with my notebook when traveling. I think my USB wifi adapter has the Realtek 8191 and so might work in master mode (probably not). Too bad the Micca doesn't have the HiMedia half-size mini PCIe socket because I have an 8192 card I know would work. I don't want to carry around a small router with the Micca.

The Micca seems able to do what I want now. I am going to remove the ntfs formatting because I rarely use Windows. I might keep a small vfat partition for the first partition so I can easily move files to and from Windows if I ever need to do that. I have never had a reliability problem with linux filesystems.

The Micca is just as easy to carry around as my old USB storage and comes with lots of extras.biggrin.gif

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post #1363 of 1651
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

Why not unpack the Ollyp firmware that is used for the HD900B and tinker with that smile.gif
Bill

I went back to the OllyP firmware after having more experience looking at the Micca firmware.

I have fixed a major problem caused by Olly with the latest Olly Mod firmware 1.0.4.20 dated July. I found the problem easily because I tried the same thing and caused the same problem.

Olly removed the Google Buddy Link called gtalk. I also tried to remove gtalk because that was started automatically and could be doing anything behind the scenes. I tried tweaking the Gtalk.script to actually stop the program when asked to start. I found Android doesn't use the script and starts gtalk for it's own reasons. The adbd then monitors the gtalk and causes problems when that doesn't work. The adbd tries to restart the program over and over causing the processes to add up and up. So I re-added the gtalk stuff to Olly's firmware and the problems stopped. Of course the gtalk is now running just as adbd wants.

Instead I used these commands to stop adbd from doing what it wants to do with my machine:
Code:
/usr/local/bin/IMS_Modules/gtalk/Gtalk.script stop
/system/bin/setprop persist.service.adb.enable 0

I suppose I could have left OllyP firmware alone and added the above commands to the custom "Autostart" user commands. Then adbd would only complain until getting turned off during final startup.

Olly did some excellent work on the firmware. I only have a few more things to do...

Edit1: I should probably add another Gtalk.script stop command after the disable adb because I think sometimes the adb might have enough time to start gtalk again before turning itself off. I forget why I did that before when experimenting with the Micca. I don't know what adb is about except things work as far as I have found without that thing doing whatever it wants to do.

Also, I am now running without the RootApp and without the HiMediaDMA programs. I don't see any difference without RootApp and the HiMediaDMA program would cause an error when accessing the wrong address. Maybe that was used by HiMedia for the internal PCIe WiFi card. I don't know except things seem to work fine without both of them taking my resources.

Edit2: Stopping gtalk is a little more difficult than I thought. Stopping the adb works easily. I still have occasional gtalk processes returning. This is going to take some more work to stop gtalk without causing repercussions.

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Edited by mods41 - 10/30/12 at 5:01pm
post #1364 of 1651
Very disappointed lately with the lack of information and updates. There isn't a day that goes by that I can turn my EP950 on without it freezing at the boot screen, and having to turn it back off and back on and try again for it to start up. The off-center issue has also not been addressed - so SBS/over/under 3D files continue to have that bar on the lft of the screen. And DVD menus look terrible all squished in a 4:3 image area. What's more puzzling about that is some DVD menus do play 16:9 correctly, and others are squished into 4:3, even though they are clearly meant to be 16:9. The films play correctly, but not the menus.
post #1365 of 1651
More problems.

I have a set of external .idx and .sub files I created through 3D-subtitler, which takes a standard .srt subtitle file and converts it into idx/sub files for correct playback with side-by-side 3D files. It allows you to pick the display color, so I chose yellow.

When I play this file now, it lets me select the new subtitles, but it forces it to display as cyan, not yellow. And for options it only allows me to select offset - all other subtitle options are unavailable for me.

I tested the same files with my WDTV Live player and the subtitles are displayed as yellow. Also, just as an experiment, I made a second set of .idx and .sub files with the same software, and this time I chose white for the color. In the WDTV Live, it was white, and in the EP950 it was also white.

Also, I confirmed that the subs are indeed yellow because when the software creates the subs it makes temporary .png files - and I viewed them in my image viewer and they are certainly yellow. When I created the second set as white subs, the .png files it created were white - so I know the software is working correctly. It's just something about this player that won't display the subs yellow even though they are.

Why is this player forcing yellow subtitles to display as cyan? This doesn't make sense. Yellow subs display cyan but white subs display correctly as white.
Edited by eagle_2 - 10/31/12 at 11:48pm
post #1366 of 1651
Another day, another freeze at boot. No updates.

To add to the list of problems - this unit has a serious issue getting detected through USB 2.0 as a storage device to copy files over USB. Half the time it gets recognized, and half the time it doesn't - Windows won't recognize it, and either the drive just shows up as a letter but no access to the drive, or it pops up a message saying I need to format the drive first. What? If I safely remove hardware from the taskbar and turn it off and back on again, then it will usually show up ready to use and copy, but then sometimes it takes a couple tries. Totally unreliable.

This product is beyond frustrating. I bought this primarily for 3D and it is mostly useless for that purpose, between the off-center issue making sbs unpleasant at best, and the 23.976 bug, and I can't even turn it on at least 50% of the time.

If these issues would get fixed it could be a great player, but sadly I'm doubting more and more that this will ever happen. I've had the player for months and months and it's still got several major issues. This never should have been released in this condition.

And my girlfriend hates the remote - the center control buttons make so much noise that I can't use it after my girlfriend goes to sleep because she can literally hear it from across the room. Will the himedia remote work with this unit, and is it any better? It should work I'm guessing - it's the same unit.
Edited by eagle_2 - 11/1/12 at 3:15pm
post #1367 of 1651
I really think that after 46 pages of problems. Eagle 2 should just give up on this unit......no offense.

I use this for 3D...which looks just fine to me.....and 2D and flac music files......having 40 or so 3D mkv's on one of the six hard-drives I have plugged into it at all times.
I have 4 in a Pro-box, one internal and one hooked into the sata port......I just plug the drives into my pc for file transfers, but I dont doubt that plugging the 950 into the PC causes problems.. you cant expect a 150 dollar machine to be perfect at everything......I also have a Samsung PC Bluray drive plugged in...one of the best things about this unit that few mention.....and it boots fine every time.

My big complaint is the occasional loud screech at the beginning of a song when navigating flac files......

But the biggest plus of the Micca is...........NO CINEVA !! if you are thinking of getting an Oppo or other player.....dont !! A lot of your rips will be useless .......
post #1368 of 1651
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

Another day, another freeze at boot. No updates.
To add to the list of problems - this unit has a serious issue getting detected through USB 2.0 as a storage device to copy files over USB. Half the time it gets recognized, and half the time it doesn't - Windows won't recognize it, and either the drive just shows up as a letter but no access to the drive, or it pops up a message saying I need to format the drive first. What? If I safely remove hardware from the taskbar and turn it off and back on again, then it will usually show up ready to use and copy, but then sometimes it takes a couple tries. Totally unreliable.
This product is beyond frustrating. I bought this primarily for 3D and it is mostly useless for that purpose, between the off-center issue making sbs unpleasant at best, and the 23.976 bug, and I can't even turn it on at least 50% of the time.
If these issues would get fixed it could be a great player, but sadly I'm doubting more and more that this will ever happen. I've had the player for months and months and it's still got several major issues. This never should have been released in this condition.
And my girlfriend hates the remote - the center control buttons make so much noise that I can't use it after my girlfriend goes to sleep because she can literally hear it from across the room. Will the himedia remote work with this unit, and is it any better? It should work I'm guessing - it's the same unit.

I would suggest a Harmony remote if you've got one. Hopefully, it will solve the remote issues. As far as the other issues, you are at the mercy of HiMedia / Micca since they are the same media player. I used to have hope for this media player, but now I am looking else where. I am hoping either the PCH-A300 or the new Dune media players can succeed where Micca has failed.
post #1369 of 1651
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by isolar801 View Post

I really think that after 46 pages of problems. Eagle 2 should just give up on this unit......no offense.
I use this for 3D...which looks just fine to me.....and 2D and flac music files......having 40 or so 3D mkv's on one of the six hard-drives I have plugged into it at all times.
I have 4 in a Pro-box, one internal and one hooked into the sata port......I just plug the drives into my pc for file transfers, but I dont doubt that plugging the 950 into the PC causes problems.. you cant expect a 150 dollar machine to be perfect at everything......I also have a Samsung PC Bluray drive plugged in...one of the best things about this unit that few mention.....and it boots fine every time.
My big complaint is the occasional loud screech at the beginning of a song when navigating flac files......
But the biggest plus of the Micca is...........NO CINEVA !! if you are thinking of getting an Oppo or other player.....dont !! A lot of your rips will be useless .......

Cinavia is related to 1:1 ISO files. That's the reason why the new media players are not supporting BD ISO files.
post #1370 of 1651
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

Another day, another freeze at boot. No updates.
To add to the list of problems - this unit has a serious issue getting detected through USB 2.0 as a storage device to copy files over USB. Half the time it gets recognized, and half the time it doesn't - Windows won't recognize it, and either the drive just shows up as a letter but no access to the drive, or it pops up a message saying I need to format the drive first. What? If I safely remove hardware from the taskbar and turn it off and back on again, then it will usually show up ready to use and copy, but then sometimes it takes a couple tries. Totally unreliable.

I have had these same problems. Windows doesn't like linux writing to ntfs. I reformatted my disk with a 7.5GB vfat partition because that is more compatible with Windows. The rest of my disk is linux ext4. That also has problems with the Micca.

The Micca uses a mipsel processor and that has a bad hwclock. The disk frequently is mounted saying "mounted with unchecked file system, run e2fsck". The e2fsck is missing from the Micca so I added that and e2fsck frequently says "disk was not cleanly unmounted, check forced" and then " disk was last mounted in 2014, fix?". So the faulty hwclock is being used to mount the disks and the Micca isn't unmounting the disk properly.

I imagine the Micca has a similar problem with ntfs. First, the linux kernel should have been built with a better choice of clocks. The driver for the faulty clock should not have been enabled in the build is my opinion. There are several ways to make a good clock and I expect Realtek failed to do that correctly for the mipsel processor. Next, the Micca uses the Android vold program for auto-mounting the disks. The vold has a very small brain and very big muscles. Many of the programs used for disk maintenance in linux expect an /etc/fstab to exist and vold uses an /etc/vold.fstab instead. So linux doesn't know how to work correctly without the fstab. The vold tries to mount the disk with all of the filesystems known to Android and always chooses ext3 instead of ext4 when the disk is formatted with ext4.

Here you can see where the vold tries to mount the sda disk not present. That is for when there is a disk installed in the external sata port. Here the vold sees there is no disk and then tries every filesystem to mount the missing disk. The same routine continues with the internal disk in sdb. The Micca uses a proprietary ufsd driver to work with the ntfs seen here:
Code:
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
Realtek Bulid-In SATA Driver Rev:SATURN (2011-02-24 15:10)
sata_rtk sata_rtk: version 0.01
sata_rtk sata_rtk: slots 32 ports 1
scsi1 : sata_rtk
ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 irq 4
BGA Package
FAT: unable to read boot sector
ufsd: module license 'Commercial product' taints kernel.
Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
CustomerID = 0x   0
MAC Address from efuse= 0-23-13-2-0-e7
ufsd: driver 8.5 (Sep 19 2011 18:35:58) LBD=ON with delayalloc with ioctl loaded at c0778000
NTFS read/write support included
Hfs+/HfsX read/write support included
Built for: realtek_new_ic_2011-04-29
ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
ata1.00: HPA detected: current 234441648, native 274103470214064
ata1.00: ATA-9: OCZ-VERTEX3, 2.06, max UDMA/133
ata1.00: 234441648 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 0/32)
ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
scsi 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ATA      OCZ-VERTEX3      2.06 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] 234441648 512-byte logical blocks: (120 GB/111 GiB)
sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
 sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3 sdb4
data[0] 0x0 signature[0] 0xbabeface
data[1] 0x0 signature[1] 0xdeadbeef
sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
ufsd: use builtin utf8 instead of kernel utf8
ufsd: failed to mount sda
EXT4-fs (sda): unable to read superblock
...
FAT: unable to read boot sector
ufsd: use builtin utf8 instead of kernel utf8
ufsd: failed to mount sda
EXT4-fs (sda): unable to read superblock
FAT: unable to read boot sector
ufsd: use builtin utf8 instead of kernel utf8
ufsd: failed to mount sda
EXT4-fs (sda): unable to read superblock
...
FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors

This is just a part of the boot-up log concerning the disks and goes on until the Micca/Realtek sees there is a flag on the ntfs or vfat as there always is. So the Micca disconnects the disk and then reconnects repeating the entire routine. I think the flag is because of the bad date or the bad unmounting so the disk needs to be checked. The disk ends up getting used after the second attempt with errors and all. If you are lucky.

I have a lot of files to move onto my 3TB disk. I would expect the file transfers to work better using the network than the USB3. The USB is much faster except then Windows gets to work on the disk if you use Windows and is not happy with the situation. I prefer linux except I frequently get IO errors with the USB so the network might be safer.

I don't know of any good solution. There are better ways to write to the ntfs the Micca does not have. That is NTFS-3G. If you have a large disk the Micca uses the old, probably buggy, parted instead of the gdisk program and the partition table gets errors. There is no built in filesystem checker to make repairs.

I hope these problems get fixed with the expected new firmware on the way. Maybe Realtek plans to continue with the 1186 for a while and decide to fix the firmware. I hope so.

Edit1: Actually, there is a program called ntfsfix located in the Micca /usr/local/sbin and maybe the vold does sometimes cause the program to check an ntfs. That would probably take a long time for a large ntfs disk. I have never tried to run that program and don't know if that is ever used during boot-up. The disks should actually be mounted after the home screen is shown so maybe that is not the same problem. A very long boot could be related to problems encountered during the rcS scripts because when they are finished the Micca goes to the home screen.

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Edited by mods41 - 11/2/12 at 10:21am
post #1371 of 1651
Guys,
can somebody point me to the exact Audio Setup options that I need to enable/change so I can get a 7.1 multi-channel LPCM from DTS-HD MA or Dolby TrueHD?
I tried setting the HDMI output mode to Multi-channel LPCM but all I get from my BD ISO files is 2.0 LPCM and I'm 100% sure that my receiver (Integra DTR-40.3) is capable of receiving multi-channel LPCM because that's what I use from my HTPC.
The reason I'd like to use 7.1 LPCM instead of the raw HD audio stream is that I occasionally get some strange screech/scratch sound and afterwards I either lose my center channel or/and I get strange "tin" like sounds from the other speakers.
post #1372 of 1651
Quote:
Originally Posted by isolar801 View Post

I really think that after 46 pages of problems. Eagle 2 should just give up on this unit......no offense.
I use this for 3D...which looks just fine to me.....and 2D and flac music files......having 40 or so 3D mkv's on one of the six hard-drives I have plugged into it at all times.
I have 4 in a Pro-box, one internal and one hooked into the sata port......I just plug the drives into my pc for file transfers, but I dont doubt that plugging the 950 into the PC causes problems.. you cant expect a 150 dollar machine to be perfect at everything......I also have a Samsung PC Bluray drive plugged in...one of the best things about this unit that few mention.....and it boots fine every time.
My big complaint is the occasional loud screech at the beginning of a song when navigating flac files......
But the biggest plus of the Micca is...........NO CINEVA !! if you are thinking of getting an Oppo or other player.....dont !! A lot of your rips will be useless .......

I haven't given up on this unit because I still believe it could be ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS OUT THERE - if they would just address these well-known issues.

pluses:

- great interface - much better than the WDTV Live - that player is very unpleasant to use, especially if you need to skip to another part of the video - it's painful the way they have you do it. With Micca it's fantastic - almost as easy as navigating a video file with a mouse, just scroll along the timeline
- file support - no player supports every possible file but this player comes as close as any player possibly could - it plays files that the WDTV Live doesn't even know what to do with
- features - tons of features! And full 3D support - one of the primary reasons I got this player.
- Beautiful unit - nice solid construction and beautiful brushed metal finish with nice illuminated touch buttons and screen - white illumination was a nice touch (dislike remote though)
- No Cinavia

that's a lot of praise and I have no problem giving it praise where it is due. It's a very nice unit, but sadly is plagued with bugs, some which are serious:

- known framerate issue with 23.976 in 3D (well known, I know, but just listing it here since I'm listing pluses and minus - and I know they are working on it (but can it actually be fixed?)
- plays video off center - resulting in a nasty side-effect with 3D SBS/over-under viewing (distracting bar on left of screen) - any calibration disc will show this off-center issue
- serious boot issues
- often not recognized by Windows 7 as storage device - needs another reboot to get recognized
- 16:9 DVD menus often displayed as 4:3

I realize that Micca seems to be working on these issues - but seriously, these are pretty frustrating issues - and ones that should never have seen the light of day. Especially the boot issues. This is the only device in my apartment that doesn't start up every time. Just today the player froze on boot 3 different times. To me, it almost seems that Micca has given up on us. I'm grateful that a new alpha firmware was offered a while back, but seriously, this benefits no-one since it has major issues and doesn't even fix the problems. If this was any other product it would be slammed by the public with such bugs - imagine a tv or blu-ray player that you had to start 2-3 times before it would boot properly. Would anybody keep a device like that? Unlikely, it would get returned to the store within a week.

I've been very patient over the months, hoping that eventually these things would get worked out. But after all these months, most of the same issues remain. I'm still hanging on, hoping that they are having some success. I also understand that it's not entirely Micca's fault - the chip manufacturer is certainly to blame as well. But the bottom line is Micca/Himedia and other brands chose to use these chips and advertise the 3D functionality, without the units being fully tested. My belief is that as soon as the chips hit the market, the companies all rushed out to get their players to market, trying to beat each other. I talked to an Iconbit rep before I bought this player, and he told me the Iconbit was the first/only 3D media player on the market, which was clearly a lie since this was already available as well as other units. In the rush to beat each other to market, we were sold units that were essentially still in beta stage. If Micca had taken a bit longer to iron these issues out first, they could have had a home-run with this unit, and not had to do a hardware recall (and it still doesn't boot right).

Anyways, I'm still giving them some credit for trying to iron this out - but as a consumer it's very frustrating to see week after week pass without any resolutions.
Edited by eagle_2 - 11/2/12 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Cinavia is related to 1:1 ISO files. That's the reason why the new media players are not supporting BD ISO files.

Not true - Cinavia also affects blu-ray rips like mkv rips.
post #1374 of 1651
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I would suggest a Harmony remote if you've got one. Hopefully, it will solve the remote issues. As far as the other issues, you are at the mercy of HiMedia / Micca since they are the same media player. I used to have hope for this media player, but now I am looking else where. I am hoping either the PCH-A300 or the new Dune media players can succeed where Micca has failed.

I was hoping maybe a cheap replacement Himedia remote would do the trick but I guess they are the same remote? I know Harmony is said to be great - eventually I would love to get one. I was just in a car accident a few weeks ago and lost my car - just bought a new (used) one - so I'm flat broke for the forseeable future. I have an older learning remote (one-for-all) but it has very limited key commands and then it's difficult to remember which keys are programmed for which Micca keys since there are many keys on the Micca remote that aren't labeled as such on the learning remote.

There is an awesome illuminated deluxe remote for this unit and the Himedia 900B - I saw it on an online store from Asia - fully illuminated and way better buttons - but it's apparently only for Asia - no English markings. I asked in this thread about it way back and Jack said maybe they would look into it as a future accessory - I would buy one of those in a second if it was priced reasonably.
Edited by eagle_2 - 11/1/12 at 11:50pm
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

Not true - Cinavia also affects blu-ray rips like mkv rips.

Very true, Eagle 2...............Cinavia is rearing its ugly head quite a bit lately........even if you recode to aac the Cinavia cant be broken.......this mainly affects disc-based players like Samsung Blu-Rays, etc.
I agree that with a little effort this unit could be much bettter
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Is it possible for a future update for the info feature to display the correct framerate when hitting "info"? When playing 23.976 files the framerate is listed is 23.98.

Also, when watching a video file - if I want to skip to the next file in the folder, I hit the >>I key on the remote, but then it pops up a message saying "press >>I again to skip to next file". Is there a way to make that not happen? It's very annoying to have to hit the same button twice every time I skip to the next file. I really should only need to do this once to skip to the next file.
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

Is it possible for a future update for the info feature to display the correct framerate when hitting "info"? When playing 23.976 files the framerate is listed is 23.98

its the only media player in the world (that im aware) that have the correct frame rate (23,97hz) in BD 2D but the info is wrong showing 28.98
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I was waiting for the new Micca firmware and found a custom firmware made by CS in Romania. OllyP lists CS on his site. The newest CS is based on HiMedia 1.0.4.20.

I have just installed this firmware and everything seems fine. There are some extra apps in the Premium section also. This could be my new favorite. I haven't tried the Android. So far so good.

This is the place except the file is hard to find:
http://www.mediafire.com/hd900#0865gaot7r6b8

Look for file HiMedia_HD900-1.0.4.20-byCSv1.5.rar or click here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?g68vqhpzvl1yrsc

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post #1379 of 1651
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Originally Posted by mods41 View Post

I was waiting for the new Micca firmware and found a custom firmware made by CS in Romania. OllyP lists CS on his site. The newest CS is based on HiMedia 1.0.4.20.

I have just installed this firmware and everything seems fine. There are some extra apps in the Premium section also. This could be my new favorite. I haven't tried the Android. So far so good.
This is the place except the file is hard to find:
http://www.mediafire.com/hd900#0865gaot7r6b8
Look for file HiMedia_HD900-1.0.4.20-byCSv1.5.rar or click here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?g68vqhpzvl1yrsc
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Thanks smile.gif That is a noticeably bigger image file too. I am gonna try it out.

Bill
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

Thanks smile.gif That is a noticeably bigger image file too. I am gonna try it out.
Bill

So what do you think?

The install.img is very large indeed. There are many additions to the premium apps and also a lot of extras in the interface and even ffmpeg and ipkg in the /opt directory. There is a jukebox and a lot more I haven't tried. The amazing part is everything seems to work perfectly. I have looked at some of the work done and there is a lot of customization. CS must be a coding wizard. I think this firmware is a masterpiece.

I found the way to change the weather display in the home menu. First I tried my location in the weather.com app and the accuweather app without affect so I searched for my location at weather.com and found the code needed is at the last part of the URL. That just needs to be entered in the MISC directory for weather location. Unfortunately, I haven't found any instructions for using all of the extras and there are a lot included. I am looking inside the firmware to look at the code for clues. This seems to be made by CS for his own use and he was nice enough to make this available.

The system logs show no problems running the firmware. I disabled the HiMediaDMA program and the RootApp so far and everything is fine. The coding by CS looks very professional compared to the amateurs at Realtek/HiMedia. I have a lot to explore and learn so I can add my own item choices like the channels instead of some of the Eastern Europe choices. I believe there is a lot of potential here with the firmware designed in a way to allow the user preferences to be added and give just what might be wanted by anybody.

This firmware is certainly at the top of my top ten.
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