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post #391 of 435
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Originally Posted by daniels1994 View Post

Yes I do. I don't buy blu ray's anymore (because we all know these discs will be absolete in perhaps 5 years as digital downloading will be the norm) unless the bottom line says 'Must Own". When I mean must own: Picture Qualirty MUST be 5/5, or A+. Prices are too high to pay for discs. This is the absolute reason (and the studio heads have their rear up thier heads) why the growth rate of blu ray is not close to the growth of DVD during it's infancy. Why do you think the studios are trying to shove all these legacy titles in which they should have done at the very begginning of Blu Ray's existance? Because they know full well that the life span of blu ray is nearing the end. Yes blu ray is better than streaming but the reality is the pricing is too high. That article that was published in usatoday.com on August 24th says it all.

Well so at digital movies = worse PQ, worse AQ, no extras, DRM, at higher prices typically...

I don't see this changing anytime soon, and I will continue to buy Blu-Ray until digital improves upon what we have now.
post #392 of 435
Watch this yesterday and was very impressed with the BD. Great movie and score, probably my favorite film score. I actually listened to the overture twice.

larry
post #393 of 435
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Originally Posted by daniels1994 View Post

Yes I do. I don't buy blu ray's anymore (because we all know these discs will be absolete in perhaps 5 years as digital downloading will be the norm) unless the bottom line says 'Must Own". When I mean must own: Picture Qualirty MUST be 5/5, or A+. Prices are too high to pay for discs. This is the absolute reason (and the studio heads have their rear up thier heads) why the growth rate of blu ray is not close to the growth of DVD during it's infancy. Why do you think the studios are trying to shove all these legacy titles in which they should have done at the very begginning of Blu Ray's existance? Because they know full well that the life span of blu ray is nearing the end. Yes blu ray is better than streaming but the reality is the pricing is too high. That article that was published in usatoday.com on August 24th says it all.

I honestly don't quite agree with this. Bluray is pretty much SLOWLY replacing DVDs en masse for all the walmart shoppers, etc. They will probably never need anything better. I find cheap blurays all the time. Give it three more years or so and people will be buying much less of the DVD variety as the prices for most Blurays will be almost exactly the same.

I'm sorry but streaming is garbage for film buffs and doesn't look to change for about 5 years or so. Of course I do it and recognize the future (as in 20 years from now lol).... I agree for us high-end cinemaphiles Bluray will be obsolete in some ways though not all (cost) but this will not be the case for most people. I could be wrong you could be wrong we all could be wrong. Streaming is still pretty low end and it won't make the jump to anything decent for at least 5 years and you still don't own it. And then let's not even talk about streaming 4k because it won't happen for well over a decade in comparable quality to disc.

Really 4K is the holy grail for most of us. Uncompressed or lightly compressed everything. That is definitely going to need a disc format and I will not be nearly as hesitant in buying those discs.
post #394 of 435
Lawrence is here from the UK! Mine arrived a few minutes ago. No Monday Night Football for me tonight. It's Lawrence on my PJ and 100" screen, my KEF Reference Twos (from 1996), center, surrounds, and subwoofers cranked, some popcorn, and my 12-year-old cat asleep in my lap.
post #395 of 435
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Originally Posted by ack_bk View Post

Well so at digital movies = worse PQ, worse AQ, no extras, DRM, at higher prices typically...

While I share your POV, BD does have DRM as well, albeit defeatable.
post #396 of 435
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Originally Posted by Will2007 View Post

Lawrence is here from the UK! Mine arrived a few minutes ago. No Monday Night Football for me tonight. It's Lawrence on my PJ and 100" screen, my KEF Reference Twos (from 1996), center, surrounds, and subwoofers cranked, some popcorn, and my 12-year-old cat asleep in my lap.

Is the cat's name Lawrence? ^_^
post #397 of 435
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

Watch this yesterday and was very impressed with the BD. Great movie and score, probably my favorite film score. I actually listened to the overture twice.
larry

Finally got the UK disc yesterday. I won't have time to watch a 4-hour movie until this weekend, but I did check out some scenes. This Blu-ray is over-the-top brilliant looking. There is so much detail it sometimes looks 3D. You see individual grains of sand in this. In the nighttime scene with Sherif Ali by the firelight, after Lawrence has rested from returning with Gasim, O'Toole's blonde hair looks like spun gold!

My only complaint is that I wish the curtain raiser overture and the main titles were separated with a chapter stop. Indeed, I wish all movies with overtures had chapter stops in that exact place. I am grateful to have overtures, entr'actes, exit music, etc in these roadshow films; and if I am watching the entire film, I will watch with all those bells and whistles. But if I want to just jump to the main title, I find it annoying to have to FF through the overture. Not a complaint about this disc; just something I wish the studios would do with all roadshow films.
post #398 of 435
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Originally Posted by 18 Brumaire View Post

Finally got the UK disc yesterday. I won't have time to watch a 4-hour movie until this weekend, but I did check out some scenes. This Blu-ray is over-the-top brilliant looking. There is so much detail it sometimes looks 3D. You see individual grains of sand in this. In the nighttime scene with Sherif Ali by the firelight, after Lawrence has rested from returning with Gasim, O'Toole's blonde hair looks like spun gold!

Your mail service must be as bad as mine. My copy from Amazon UK just showed up yesterday as well (ordered before street date). I agree wholeheartedly about the transfer and restoration. Having seen every video version since VHS multiple times over the years, this Blu-ray is truly like seeing the film for the first time. Stunning video of a stunningly photographed film.
post #399 of 435
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Originally Posted by eric.exe View Post

Xylon posted some comparisons here: http://www.xylonhd.com/home/2012/9/14/lawrence-of-arabia-comparison-pix.html

Would be nice to see full bitrate HDNet in there

I lost several HD broadcast copies from the great Seagate hard drives crash of 2010.
post #400 of 435
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Originally Posted by Xylon View Post

I lost several HD broadcast copies from the great Seagate hard drives crash of 2010.

Same here; but I just don't remember it looking this great on HDNet. Fortunately, I have been able to re-record much of what I lost. Sadly, the stuff from the VOOM channels is lost forever...
post #401 of 435
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Originally Posted by mhafner View Post

I have seen "LOA" in 4K DLP and also "Samsara".
Before the Lawrence screening there was a 20 minutes or so comparison of the 4K versus a reel of a 70mm print of the Harris restoration (e.g. >= 4th generation material), courtesy of a collector, I think. The comparison was for "insiders" (e.g. word of mouth among 70mm buffs and projectionists plus tech forum, no announcement in the cinema or newspapers).… The BD of this should be top demo material.


I am really enjoying the currently ongoing and very vivid discourse on film preservation politics and strategies at the German film projectionists forum based on the LoA BD edition compared to the experience of recent DCP 4K screenings in cinemas:

http://www.filmvorfuehrer.de/topic/14035-lawrence-of-arabia-in-4k/page__pid__175837__st__160#entry175837

Not forgetting to mention that Michel is an active participant in these discussions…

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post #402 of 435
So, why did this thread die? I watched this classic yesterday and was blown away by the reference quality PQ! It's definitely the best catalog title on Blu-ray to date.
post #403 of 435
Nothing bad to say about film or disc = Dead thread
post #404 of 435
This disc is simply astonishing in terms of what a fantastic job Sony did on the restoration and transfer to BD! Simply fantastic in every way. The box set is ridiculously cool. Absolutely love the artwork that they chose. The book is great, love the idea of giving us an original 70mm film frame, separate CD with the score, etc.

I have a ton of extra features to wade through.

Watched this with my two daughters, ages 10 and 13. Wasn't sure what they would think, but they enjoyed the film a great deal, especially my 13 year old. She simply could not understand how some people think the film is "boring". Warmed my heart to hear her say that! cool.gif

I guess I can finally remove "Lawrence on Blu-ray!" from my avatar.

The wait was indeed worth it! eek.gif
post #405 of 435
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

Nothing bad to say about film or disc = Dead thread

Perhaps you're right...if so, that's sad, incredibly sad!
post #406 of 435
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

Nothing bad to say about film or disc = Dead thread
Watching it in 4K projection didn't help my interest in the blu-ray either...
post #407 of 435
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

Nothing bad to say about film or disc = Dead thread
It looks amazing no doubt, but I still think The Sound of Music is the best looking 70mm film on Blu-ray.

...ok I'll go put my flamesuite on
post #408 of 435
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Originally Posted by eric.exe View Post

It looks amazing no doubt, but I still think The Sound of Music is the best looking 70mm film on Blu-ray.
...ok I'll go put my flamesuite on

Don't worry, I'm leaving my flame gun in its holster. smile.gif

Having said that, I DO believe LAO is the superior transfer. I never noticed any anomalies except for a fleeting instance of banding in the desert sky and brief occurrences of softness (in scenes with blowing desert sands). In TSOM you had sporadic shots of what I would call "color wavering" and inconsistent flesh tones, along with a number of soft focus shots.. Don't take this wrong, for I still believe TSOM is "demo" material, but LOA is a notch higher and should be designated as "reference" quality.
post #409 of 435
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Originally Posted by djoberg View Post

I never noticed any anomalies except for a fleeting instance of banding in the desert sky

I think you are probably referring to a few scenes where there is what looks like banding that is inherent in the source material. It is present on every 70mm presentation that I have seen. I think it is print damage from heat if I recall correctly (but not sure).
post #410 of 435
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

I think you are probably referring to a few scenes where there is what looks like banding that is inherent in the source material. It is present on every 70mm presentation that I have seen. I think it is print damage from heat if I recall correctly (but not sure).

That makes sense Rob; in fact, at one point I did consider that it might be print damage, but I was under the impression that the restoration was absolutely flawless so I dismissed the idea.
post #411 of 435
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Originally Posted by djoberg View Post

That makes sense Rob; in fact, at one point I did consider that it might be print damage, but I was under the impression that the restoration was absolutely flawless so I dismissed the idea.

It is flawless in that there are no flaws with the restoration, but they cannot help they conditions they shot the film under.
post #412 of 435
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

It is flawless in that there are no flaws with the restoration, but they cannot help they conditions they shot the film under.

That makes sense.
post #413 of 435
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

This disc is simply astonishing in terms of what a fantastic job Sony did on the restoration and transfer to BD! Simply fantastic in every way. The box set is ridiculously cool. Absolutely love the artwork that they chose. The book is great, love the idea of giving us an original 70mm film frame, separate CD with the score, etc.
I have a ton of extra features to wade through.
Watched this with my two daughters, ages 10 and 13. Wasn't sure what they would think, but they enjoyed the film a great deal, especially my 13 year old. She simply could not understand how some people think the film is "boring". Warmed my heart to hear her say that! cool.gif
I guess I can finally remove "Lawrence on Blu-ray!" from my avatar.
The wait was indeed worth it! eek.gif

I feel like I've been waiting for this post from Rob for about 7 years. ^_^
post #414 of 435
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

The wait was indeed worth it! eek.gif

So now the question becomes, how long will we wait until LAWRENCE is available in 4K? With both TAXI DRIVER and BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI available right now with Sony's new 4K television, I can't imagine LAWRENCE will be very far behind.

I hope.wink.gif
post #415 of 435
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Originally Posted by chirpie View Post

I feel like I've been waiting for this post from Rob for about 7 years. ^_^

I'll bid 6 years! wink.gif I think it's been that long since Sony promised to release Lawrence....
post #416 of 435
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Originally Posted by Rachael Bellomy View Post

I'll bid 6 years! wink.gif I think it's been that long since Sony promised to release Lawrence....

And they more than delivered! cool.gif
post #417 of 435
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

And they more than delivered! cool.gif

.....yeah, but I still feel like stiffing 'em on the tip for stranding me in the Cafe Blu for all that time! wink.gif
post #418 of 435
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

Watched this with my two daughters, ages 10 and 13. Wasn't sure what they would think, but they enjoyed the film a great deal, especially my 13 year old. She simply could not understand how some people think the film is "boring". Warmed my heart to hear her say that! cool.gif
I guess I can finally remove "Lawrence on Blu-ray!" from my avatar.
The wait was indeed worth it! eek.gif

Hear hear ! smile.gifbiggrin.gif
post #419 of 435
Wish every catalog titles looked like this.eek.gif
post #420 of 435
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Originally Posted by lgans316 View Post

Wish every catalog titles looked like this.eek.gif
+100000
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