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post #211 of 754
Not long after Jaws came out and I saw it umpty billion times in the theater, we did a family vacation that included Martha's Vinyard and I was so thrilled to roam the island on which Jaws was filmed.

This summer, the week after the Jaws Blu-Ray is released and we have a "Jaws" party at my place, my family is vacationing at Martha's Vinyard...my son loves the movie and it's a total nostalgia trip (plus, I love Martha's Vinyard and Cape Cod). Can't wait!

Can I get my official Jaws Nerd button, please?
post #212 of 754
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I sincerely hope this is just a result of over and re-compressed YouTube quality, but even at 1080p, geez...

I'm as skeptical about this release as anyone, but to use a youtube clip as evidence of excessive DNR is the height of absurdity.
post #213 of 754
YouTube applies DNR to everything in some fashion or another to hide compression artifacts, so you shouldn't worry too much. If the grain is fine, you'd never see it in a YouTube clip anyway. I'm still hopeful.
post #214 of 754
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Originally Posted by Strevlac View Post

I'm as skeptical about this release as anyone, but to use a youtube clip as evidence of excessive DNR is the height of absurdity.

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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post

YouTube applies DNR to everything in some fashion or another to hide compression artifacts, so you shouldn't worry too much. If the grain is fine, you'd never see it in a YouTube clip anyway. I'm still hopeful.

I agree that YouTube quality is infamous; nonetheless, here's another clip with a 1080p viewing option on the nbcunient channel where film grain can be seen, even from a precarious height.

Jaws should look wonderful on Blu-ray, and I still expect it to.
post #215 of 754
Quint on aintitcool has seen the restored theatrical print, and is pretty much beside himself with joy: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/55963
post #216 of 754
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Quint on aintitcool has seen the restored theatrical print, and is pretty much beside himself with joy: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/55963

Can't wait to see this. Looks like all Uni has to do is refrain from trying to "improve" it for the home video crowd when they master the Blu-ray.
post #217 of 754
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Originally Posted by Greg_R_STL View Post

Quint on aintitcool has seen the restored theatrical print, and is pretty much beside himself with joy: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/55963

Let's hope the Blu-ray production makes it past the DNE/EE workstation without stopping.
post #218 of 754
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Let's hope the Blu-ray production makes it past the DNE/EE workstation without stopping.

Exactly. That's why I said theatrical print, because I was thinking the same thing. Hey, even if they screw up this blu-ray, they now have a new print for a double dip...
post #219 of 754
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Exactly. That's why I said theatrical print, because I was thinking the same thing. Hey, even if they screw up this blu-ray, they now have a new print for a double dip...

At the very least, we'll have something to look forward to for the 4K BDXL version.

Of course, if Universal thinks "grain management" is needed for 1080p, I can't only imagine what they'll do to "manage grain" at 4K.
post #220 of 754
The theatrical digital presentation of BTTF had DNR and EE too so I wouldn't be suprised if Universal baked them in at that stage.
post #221 of 754
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The theatrical digital presentation of BTTF had DNR and EE too so I wouldn't be suprised if Universal baked them in at that stage.

So did Jurassic Park, and The Thing, and Animal House....
post #222 of 754
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So did Jurassic Park, and The Thing, and Animal House....

Oh yeah... My optimism feels all shallow now.
post #223 of 754
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Oh yeah... My optimism feels all shallow now.

It could all be perfect, shame their past inspires no confidence.
post #224 of 754
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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post

Oh yeah... My optimism feels all shallow now.

It shouldn't. If the theatrical digital prints of all of those re-releases had DNR/EE issues and the Jaws digital print doesn't, that's an indication of potential progress. It's no guarantee but, if anything, it's reason to be optimistic, not pessimistic.
post #225 of 754
I'm very excited for this release. Jaws is one of those films I've been waiting for on Blu-Ray and I'm happy it's coming out this year. This film along with E.T. are the 2 films I'm looking forward from Universal Studios Home Entertainment this year 2012. I also hope on the Blu-Ray for Jaws that the original mono mix of the film is on the blu-ray I think the 7.1 will be good but their was areas of the 1st Jaws re mix for the dvd back in 2000 I did'nt like it's not a bad re mix just not perfect. Anyways looking forward to the release of Jaws on Blu-Ray Disc on August 14th.
post #226 of 754
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Originally Posted by Greg_R_STL View Post

Quint on aintitcool has seen the restored theatrical print, and is pretty much beside himself with joy: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/55963

I'm not sure why anyone would care what Quint or anyone at AICN thinks about anything.
post #227 of 754
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Originally Posted by Strevlac View Post

I'm not sure why anyone would care what Quint or anyone at AICN thinks about anything.

Why wouldn't we care to hear an opinion from someone who has actually seen the 4k restored digital print of Jaws. He is one of the few that has seen it as well as all of its other various incarnations so he has a good reference for comparison. It is his favorite movie and has it seen many, many times and even he saw details he had never seen before. He likes the movie so much that he uses one of the characters from Jaws as his pen name. So I think his opinion carries quite a bit of weight and if it didn't look right I think he would be the first to yell and scream about it.
post #228 of 754
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Why wouldn't we care to hear an opinion from someone who has actually seen the 4k restored digital print of Jaws. He is one of the few that has seen it as well as all of its other various incarnations so he has a good reference for comparison. It is his favorite movie and has it seen many, many times and even he saw details he had never seen before. He likes the movie so much that he uses one of the characters from Jaws as his pen name. So I think his opinion carries quite a bit of weight and if it didn't look right I think he would be the first to yell and scream about it.

Because AICN reviews normally rave over the DNR covered discs
post #229 of 754
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

Because AICN reviews normally rave over the DNR covered discs

Fair enough. I would think seeing it on the big screen would make any defects in quality stand out. I have been trying to find other reviews of it from Cannes but can't find any yet. I'll keep looking...
post #230 of 754
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Originally Posted by Greg Flowers View Post

Fair enough. I would think seeing it on the big screen would make any defects in quality stand out. I have been trying to find other reviews of it from Cannes but can't find any yet. I'll keep looking...

Most critics rightly review the film not the quality of prints normally.
There may be a few, I am seeing it on the 15th if that is any help.
post #231 of 754
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

Because AICN reviews normally rave over the DNR covered discs

Keep in mind, Harry is the one who does disc 'reviews'. Enough said there.

Quint is just about the biggest Jaws diehard there is. If you read the article, aside from being very happy with the picture, he mentions being bothered by the omission of a single line of background dialogue. This is a person who knows Jaws very well. His review tells us that at least, the blu ray has a solid source to begin with.
post #232 of 754
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Originally Posted by Greg_R_STL View Post

Keep in mind, Harry is the one who does disc 'reviews'. Enough said there.

Quint is just about the biggest Jaws diehard there is. If you read the article, aside from being very happy with the picture, he mentions being bothered by the omission of a single line of background dialogue. This is a person who knows Jaws very well. His review tells us that at least, the blu ray has a solid source to begin with.

Not everyone hates DNR, there are apologists out there and on here for EVERY DNR disaster of a disc.
post #233 of 754
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Originally Posted by Greg_R_STL View Post

Keep in mind, Harry is the one who does disc 'reviews'. Enough said there.

Quint is just about the biggest Jaws diehard there is. If you read the article, aside from being very happy with the picture, he mentions being bothered by the omission of a single line of background dialogue. This is a person who knows Jaws very well. His review tells us that at least, the blu ray has a solid source to begin with.

'Quint' liking it proves nothing bout the re-mastering nor how the Blu will end up.
Him seeing things he has never seen B4 in a film he is said too have seen many times all so does not bode well.
What?!?! They weren't there B4??? He wasn't paying attention all the other times???
That could turn out too be digital sharping.
We just don't know.
post #234 of 754
Side question:
has anyone seen the Jaws films on Cinemax/HBO lately? Are they using new masters that have the proper aspect ratio?
post #235 of 754
Do HBO or Cinemax EVER show any recent transfers in 2.35:1? The last one I remember seeing in ~2005 when I briefly had HBO was Titanic, and I figured that was because it was a transfer from shortly after that movie was released.
post #236 of 754
Recorded Jaws off Cinemax last night and it isn't OAR and doesn't look like a new master, because it has white specks throughout the opening moments; will watch the rest later today.
post #237 of 754
A few years ago I dvr'd Jaws in 2:35 AR recorded off of the Universal HD channel. It looked decent but just a little better than the upscaled dvd version. I compared the two scene for scene on a 110 inch screen using a decent 720p projector several years ago. I had all six Star Wars movies recorded from HBO that were also in the original 2:35 AR that were much better than the upscaled dvds. The cropped 1:85 version of Jaws from HBO and Cinemax are an abomination... I still have all of those and many other movies in HD that aren't on Blu Ray on an external hard drive but I can't watch them because I don't have DISH anymore.
post #238 of 754
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Sitting in my local cinema waiting for it to start now, will post impressions after
post #239 of 754
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Oh dear
post #240 of 754
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Oh dear

That doesnt sound good...frown.gif
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