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post #91 of 98
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Originally Posted by raven69david View Post

I've got a 52" XBR4 and the SOE was really noticeable for several weeks. After a few months, the effect became less and less noticeable even though my friends/neighbors would be mesmerized by the awesomeness of the picture. I'd guess that you're getting used to it and it's not a problem with the TV, but I may be wrong.
Back OT, I Love the SOE and love to watch BD and HD content with it. I love watching movies as if I'm looking outside of my window. I also like to watch them the way I saw them at the theater so sometimes I just turn off the effect. But 99% of the time I leave the effect on.

I'm almost certain it's not my getting used to the effect. It's nonexistent. A bit disappointing going from a 120hz to 240hz in hopes of a more prominent effect.
post #92 of 98
post #93 of 98
I hate the SOE. It is interpolated crap. Now if it's natively shot high frame rate stuff, that lends itself nicely to nature shows , sports , etc.
You need good lighting, not much fake props. All natural stuff around it. Otherwise your props and sets better be as realistic as possible.
post #94 of 98
almost a year now since I've been watching all my blu rays with the SOE on. it's a preferential thing, I guess. I like it a lot. I can adapt to new technology. most people just can't let go of 24fps because it's what they've been used to.

when the hobbit was showing at 48fps, I forced a lot of my friends to watch that version instead of the 24fps one. They had the same reaction. They said it was a overwhelming and looked different at first but when they got used to it, they said it was very nice to look at.

when I have kids, they will never watch 24fps when they're in my house. I'll train their eyes to get used to faster frame rates than 24fps. biggrin.gif
post #95 of 98
If you like the soap opera effect, then you'll love kinescoped material from the 50s and early 60s. To my eyes both have the same effect.
post #96 of 98
Before i got my Epson 6500UB projector i hated all of the transformers movies...i then poped in TDSOTM an WHOA WTF? Popped in Harry Potter and again WOWZA!

Yea, i like Harry Potter and ALL of my movie collection to look like it was shot on HD video!! Film to me looks like low def compared to the Epsons interpolation.
I watched a John Wayne movie and Logans run and they both look like they were shot yesterday!!! Seemed like the Duke was still alive today!

Honestly at least for me...film should be considered a thing of the past...with the coming of 4k i want to see EVERY crisp detail and not the shadow veil of film.
The transformations in Transformers look so much smoother and 3d like compared to the flatness of film. JMO

I don't want to see what the director intended...i want to see his mistakes that he is trying to hide in film!
post #97 of 98
All,


After about 1.25 years with my 55" 120Hz Hisense LCD, I can say that I am as thrilled with the picture today as I was when I bought it. The SOE has enhanced my viewing pleasure. All other TVs look like garbage compared to the brilliant display of my Hisense. When I visited my cousin over last weekend, I was shocked at the disappointing picture rendered by his plasma display. It is about 4 or 5 years old. I remember how knocked out I was initially by that TV. Now, I'm just looking at it comparing it to my LCD saying to myself, "I'm glad I'm not looking at this everyday."


Thanks,
Babylon5fan
post #98 of 98
I have gone back and forth with this issue until I finally decided to get a 3D enabled TV last weekend.

I loved the 120Hz for HD shows and Sporting events on a 46" Sony LCD and then on a 47" LG LED, but sadly each of those sets met an untimely demise and I found myself looking for a replacement recently. While I was a big fan of the 120Hz / SOE for live material, for films I was more mixed. If I had a movie like Reservoir Dogs (a character-driven piece with little special effects or set pieces) I found it to be pretty much an enjoyable experience and a fresh take on the movie. But films like the Pirates of the Caribbean or other action/outdoor/set-piece driven movies did not seem to work as well for me. I would be wowed at the start and then gradually become very distracted by the appearance and it did not work for me.

Then I brought home the LG 47LM6200 and started messing around with 3D material utilizing the TruMotion 120Hz effect to its fullest. Pixar films like Finding Nemo 3D and Monster's, Inc. 3D were STUNNING. Its may be just the colors and saturation of those films, but whatever it was, it was enough to stop my wife - who HATES movies and technology and home theater - dead in her tracks and she sat down and watched a movie for the first time in years...

The SOE and 3D are an outstanding marriage. I also popped in Avatar 3D and was reminded why I enjoyed the 3D theater presentation of that film so much more than the Blu-Ray 2D home theater version. The level of immersion on Pandora is simply night and day different in 3D than 2D for me. I actually enjoyed the film for the first time since I initially saw it in a 3D theater presentation. I'm really looking forward to a return viewing of The Hobbit in 3D now.

Prior to actually making the leap and bringing home a 3D TV, I was not sold that it was worth it, but for me anyway, the pairing of a pronounced SOE and 3D images is the sweet spot for now.
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