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post #1111 of 3788
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Originally Posted by Kris Deering View Post

Actually I've had a "correct" one for about a week now and I'm working on a review as we speak. Just FYI.

that's good to hear, i'm sure many are looking forward to your review and Chris Heinonen's as well.

My point of the post is an odd curiosity how other review sites not only missed the HDMI issue during their reviews, but went on to say how sharp the image was compared to other projectors. I spent the better part of 6 weeks hammering away at BQ engineering to show then what was actually happening between HDMI & VGA modes, I don't think the difference is subtle at all if one knows what to look for.
post #1112 of 3788
I saw it right away when they sent me the original projector. It is quite obvious with test patterns. Even with the new FW you have to set the sharpness correctly or obvious scaling artifacts are apparent. Setting it to 0 is not ideal as it introduces obvious artifacts in resolution patterns.
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I think I'm going to wait for lasers (like the just discontinued Mitsubishi 94).
In the meantime I'm going to hang sheets up on the wall and eat Pink Slime burgers.

Kris,
This is a great leadership opportunity to speak with a TI DLP Product Manager VP and publish the facts as a sidebar in Home Theater Magazine.

This years Optoma HD33 and Mitsubishi 7800 do have 1:1 pixel mapping, but their 3D is "dimmer" than the Acer and the... you know who?
The saving grace is the BenQ W7000 uses a more powerful lamp.
If only you measured the brightness of the returned sample to document this admittedly circumstantial evidence.

The other bad trend is VERY bright 2D and VERY dim 3D like the Sony 1000. Not good! Can we have a switch?
post #1114 of 3788
Thread Starter 
the 3D brightness on the W7000 didn't drop after the HDMI fix. I have measurements of the original I had in December, and the current model before/after the HDMI update.
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

The ZD201's are available from at least 1 reputable US website, but they aren't cheap. Maybe AVS can contact Optoma to start selling them?

If we can guarantee at least 50 ZD201 pairs in a power buy, a distributor has agreed to $95/pair pricing. How do we go about doing this? I never did a power buy on AVS. Mods?

I have gotten PMs and we need about 30 pairs more to meet the minimum. Please PM me and I'll continue to keep track until the 50 is reached, I guess. If there is a different way to do this on the forum, please lmk.
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I just ordered from Amazon UK yesterday and the price came down to about $96 a pair including shipping they only have two left and it would've been cheaper if I ordered more.. shipping was $24 and it increased by about a dollar for each additional pair.. Anything over two pairs they will charge you and imported goods fee of about 25 uk pounds which is supposed to be refundable once you receive the order .. I would say Amazon would be an excellent option once they have more in stock
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Is the 2D via HDMI sharpness issue now resolved?
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Originally Posted by sonichart View Post

Is the 2D via HDMI sharpness issue now resolved?

yes it is. BQ is supposed to release the firmware on May 8th for existing owners and AVS's stock should arrive the week of the 15th with the updated firmware.
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

yes it is. BQ is supposed to release the firmware on May 8th for existing owners and AVS's stock should arrive the week of the 15th with the updated firmware.

I got an RMA to fix it, do you think its safe to send in yet?
post #1120 of 3788
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Originally Posted by Ruined View Post

I got an RMA to fix it, do you think its safe to send in yet?

I would... check your PM.
post #1121 of 3788
I haven't received this projector in the mail yet. I was wondering if there was an audio output for speakers?
post #1122 of 3788
No. What were they thinking? Of course lots or amplifier manufacturers stupidly forget to build a projector into their amps. It must be a conspirency.
post #1123 of 3788
Lol ok, so I'm guessing I have to connect my speakers to all my external devices
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Which will probably make it more fun
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 4 View Post

No. What were they thinking? Of course lots or amplifier manufacturers stupidly forget to build a projector into their amps. It must be a conspirency.

In ir8santa's defense, this would make a great outdoor theater projector.
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

yes it is. BQ is supposed to release the firmware on May 8th for existing owners and AVS's stock should arrive the week of the 15th with the updated firmware.

so they will release it for download? Or will all software updates require you send the PJ back to benQ?
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

so they will release it for download? Or will all software updates require you send the PJ back to benQ?

from my conversations with BQ, I would say that the projector has to be returned to their support center in CA for a flash update. Since they said May 8th, current owners should start contacting the support dept for info.

new owners should definitely wait until AVS gets their update stock to avoid having to ship it twice.
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Why not direct from BQ? wouldnt that already have the new software on it? Their direct price is the cheapest ive found! I support AVS in other ways
post #1129 of 3788
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you could buy direct, I'd just want a guarantee that the firmware was updated before it shipped from their warehouse to avoid sending it back.
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Can anyone tell me if the aspect ratio in 3D mode is fixed to anamorphic. I thought when I first installed the projector I saw it say "real" for 3D but when I switch between the different AR modes nothing changes. It will change for 2D however.
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

Why not direct from BQ? wouldnt that already have the new software on it? Their direct price is the cheapest ive found! I support AVS in other ways

I've purchased refurbed PJ's directly from BenQ and they did not have the most recent firmware. I had to send the units back to get updated, saying I was displeased was an understatement. The BenQ store is run by another company so it's not a guarantee that you'll get the most recent firmware.
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

Why not direct from BQ? wouldnt that already have the new software on it? Their direct price is the cheapest ive found! I support AVS in other ways

Looks the same to me???
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post #1133 of 3788
Save one for me! One more payday and I can make an order.
Ugh the butterflies in my stomache! My current projector bulb took another nose dive in brightness. Almost 3500 hours on a bulb rated 2000 norm 2500 Eco.
I think I've cheaper out enough and need a new bulb. Preferably a new bulb that comes with a new projector.
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For the record, both the French/Kraine (w7000) and the German/Cine4home (Acer H9500) review sites caught this year's DLP lack of sharpness manifested by lack of 1:1 pixel mapping. Now we learn of an unwelcome twist:

Clarity / Sharpness
The W7000 is equipped with a 0.65-inch DMD chip, it can not match in image detail models equipped with a chip 0.95 inch. Besides fewer DLP projectors have it. The two strongest modes in this area are the ISF Day and Night, without wanting to make bad puns, they offer a gain in sharpness result compared to conventional user menus, movie or standard.

Did the locked-up ISF mode have 1:1 pixel mapping all along?
A similar scheme was used for the Pioneer Kuro Elite plasma displays. They looked best in ISF mode - regardless of whether or not they were calibrated!

So we need the ISF code to do justice for all the owners

http://translate.google.com/translat...Q-W7000-0.html
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Originally Posted by THE DU3C3 View Post

Can anyone tell me if the aspect ratio in 3D mode is fixed to anamorphic. I thought when I first installed the projector I saw it say "real" for 3D but when I switch between the different AR modes nothing changes. It will change for 2D however.

Anyone have an answer?
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For all of you interested in the ZD201, Amazon.co.uk currently has them for $95.91 each if you order 2. If you order 3 or more, they will charge you an import fee which you may or may not get back.

Shipping is priority so you should receive it in 5-7 days.
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Will the W7000 be too bright in 2D (if there is such a thing) on a 100" 1.1-1.3 gain screen at shortest throw (12 ft)?

Thanks
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Yah a bit without the Service Menu IRIS tweak which no-one has gotten into yet AFIK.
It will be about the same as my original setup on the Viewsonic Pro8200 I dealt with it being WAY too bright the first 500 hours or so.

Grab you an ND filter, or do what I did...
Dealing with a projector being too bright isn't too bad, for one you can dial the brightness and contrast and gamma settings way down to combat it some (although never tried this on the Benq), as a result you lose some shadow detail and wash out the image a bit, but it still looks ok (although even then it will probably still be a bit too bright). You can also de-calibrate some of the color saturation or calibrate the colors away from the natural lamp colors to reduce brightness even more (with some side effects).

Depending on how your lamp ages, it will probably be fine at 250-500 hours and at 1000 to 1500 hours likely near optimal in Low Lamp. Too bad this projector does NOT have a 6x color wheel, because I was going to sell the JVC to get this one instead, but now I'm still waiting
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.....lots of great info and I'm not sure if this has been covered, but can this projector "zoom" or fill a 16:9 image on a 2.35 screen (128")? Completely light controled room, dark celings\\floors and with a throw distance of 12-15 feet.
post #1140 of 3788
Not without an A-LENS, a PC (HTPC) digital zoom hack, or a Lumagen or other VP that has this feature. Keep in mind that even with an HTPC the issue is you would need to run your cable through the HTPC if watching cable (or install a cable card in the PC). There are some harder to install options, you could do it with a motorized screen and a motorized shelf, or you could watch keyston'd 16:9 image on a tilt shelf (manual tilt). There are a few other hacked ways. You can walk to the projector and manually switch it.

It cannot do it as easy as the JVC RS-45, the Panny 4000/7000, Lumagen VP, Mits hc3800/hc4000, or the Sony vw95es (hw30 cannot do it)... Those are the only projectors I know of that can do that trick. It is an ignorant goof that ALL projectors do not have digital re-positioning / digital re-scale for 16:9 on a 2.35 screen. It makes no sense and is an oversight of stupidity more than anything else. The digital re-scale is perhaps not quite as good as the motorized zoom, but it's pretty close and all PJ MFR's mise well include it already (I mean come on!).

My suggestion might be to install a second cheapo projector for TV and 16:9 viewing, and perma-setup the w7000 to 2.35 black-bar overflow.
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