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post #1831 of 3788
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Originally Posted by dolphinc View Post

I also have flat black walls and ceiling and when I watch a film like The Dark Knight or Sin City this produces great blacks, so much that I cannot see the difference between my wall and the blacks on the screen.
What about when you watch a scope movie on a 16:9 screen, do the black bars top and bottom look ok? acceptable? Or if you ever see a 4:3 show on your screen you would see the black bars on the sides.
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On a seperate note, when you watch a 3D movie, does the w7000 go automatically into high lamp mode? can it be change to go into economy? noisy much?
post #1833 of 3788
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Originally Posted by dolphinc View Post

I'll see if my menu lets me change the setting tomorrow and I will post my findings.

Thanks!
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I think that the lamp does automatically go into the high mode but you can change that to economy while still watching 3-D.. I couldn't find a way to turn dynamic black (the iris) on while in the 3-D mode. If you turn it on when not in the 3-D mode it turns off when you go to the 3-D mode and then the button is greyed out. Is this what everyone else notices. I have the 1.03 firmware and the the Benq was built in January. I don't notice any noise but my hearing is not the greatest. Still it's a great picture. I have noticed that rapidly moving scenes while in the side by side 3-d mode from our cable company do seem to lose some syncronization briefly using the True depth 3-d and the optima 201 d-link 3-d glases. I don't notice this in the frame packed mode of blue ray disks.
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Originally Posted by dolphinc View Post

I love this projector so far. I cannot speak for JVC as I never have owned one (Might have bought one if their current line had acceptable 3D) but I do not understand why people say this has weak blacks. I have mine calibrated and I also have flat black walls and ceiling and when I watch a film like The Dark Knight or Sin City this produces great blacks, so much that I cannot see the difference between my wall and the blacks on the screen.
Very happy with my choice! smile.gif

You'd have to see them side by side to see the difference. I have a high powered screen which elevates all light reflected off the screen (including black levels) so when watching a predominantly dark scene (like the first 10 minutes of Underworld Evolution) you can see the advantage of the JVC which has a very dark black floor, even on the HP screen.

Having said that, the JVC cannot crank out 1500 D65 lumens which does a great job lighting up the HP screen. The W7000 also has good perceived contrast in mixed scenes and best in class 3D as reported in the recent reviews from two of our highly regarded members.

Last night I was tuning a new AVR and added another 2 speakers + extra sub. I was looking for content that has a 7.1 HD sound track, so I fired up Tron Legacy 3D on the W7000. The last time I watched this was on my older RS50 last year which was awful with lumen output and the 3D ghosting/flicker was weak as well. It looked excellent on the W7000 last night. Nice and bright on my 142" HP and the 3D was flawless. I was surprised how good the dark scenes looked with the ZD201's.

The W7000 is a master at 3D - zero ghosting, zero flicker. The house was shaking during the light cycle scenes. Great sound track and visuals, it's a shame the story wasn't better.
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This is a screen shot of underworld 3D. Owners will verify the blacks on the BenQ look great in 3D and I agree. This is taken through the left lens of the Optoma ZD201 glasses.

You can also get similar blacks in 2D using an ND filter. This has a similar effect to the 3D glasses in that light output is reduced. This decreases the black floor making the blacks look blacker. Its not a magic wand however and it won't suddenly reveal extra shadow detail or turn it into a JVC projector, but it does make it more cinematic for the darker movies IMO and it makes 2D movies more enjoyable.
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could anyone point me in the direction of an appropriate ND filter for the W7000. seems like something i'd like to try. 2D on my measly 106" can be rather bright sometimes.
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I've been reading the posts about 4x vs 6x color wheel speed with great interest. I was able to get into the service menu & change the color wheel to '3x', which made RBE much less offensive for me (I'm particularly sensitive). But every time the projector loses signal (going in & out of a movie, e.g.), the wheel resets to 2x. So this is rather annoying.

Is there a permanent way to keep the wheel at 3x (6x equivalent)?

Is the only way to do that to always use 'Dynamic' mode?

If so, can 'Dynamic' mode be calibrated reasonably?

At this point I'm thinking of giving up & just going SXRD, but the lack of motion blur on DLP is compelling.

Many thanks in advance for any help!
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Originally Posted by flyingmunkey View Post

could anyone point me in the direction of an appropriate ND filter for the W7000. seems like something i'd like to try. 2D on my measly 106" can be rather bright sometimes.
I don''t know what the filter size would be on this projector, but you might measure it and get a multi-coated Tiffin ND filter or something similar.
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Here is a screen shot from Lord of the Rings. I know that screen shots are tough to gage but this is really close to acurate. The blacks look fantastic throughout the entire film.

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I use a 72mm Hoya glass nd4 filter (and a little blu tak)

The end of the focus ring is huge so to get a filter that size would be quite expensive!
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If anyone in the greater Montreal area has this unit, if you don't mind I'd love to see a demo

thank you
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Originally Posted by dolphinc View Post

Here is a screen shot from Lord of the Rings. I know that screen shots are tough to gage but this is really close to acurate. The blacks look fantastic throughout the entire film.
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DolphinC - that looks great!
How did you get it to be 2:35 ratio - are you using an A-lens?
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DolphinC - that looks great!
How did you get it to be 2:35 ratio - are you using an A-lens?

It looks like it's 16:9. Notice the pause button appearing above the film area.
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Originally Posted by Fatshaft View Post

If anyone in the greater Montreal area has this unit, if you don't mind I'd love to see a demo
thank you

I was able to demo one at Quebec acoustic in Blainville. Richard the owner took one out of the box and fired it up for me. They were great to deal with and great prices too. You are welcome to see mine at home in action, but I'm in Ottawa.
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Originally Posted by David44 View Post

DolphinC - that looks great!
How did you get it to be 2:35 ratio - are you using an A-lens?

Thats actually 16:9. But thanks for the compliment! wink.gif
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Originally Posted by dolphinc View Post

Thats actually 16:9. But thanks for the compliment! wink.gif

Whoops - thanks for correcting me. I hate being a rookie...
But very much looking forward to having that type of display in my house!
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If you want to get the best 3D experience with the W7000, go get the Panasonic DMP-BDT500. I was hyped about the Sony DBP-S790 because it has the 4K up conversion. However, that feature is useless for my setup. The 2D picture quality for both of these players are excellence. However, when watching 3D movies on the S790, the image appeared to be smeared or trailing when paired with the Z201 glasses. On the other hand, the Panny's BDT500 looks rich, silky smooth and more depth to the image on the screen. I returned the S790 and am very happy to keep the BDT500 as my primary 3D Blu ray player since I got it on Amazon for $250, same price as the Sony's but with a much higher-end audio chip as a bonus for my music collection.
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Originally Posted by X-2001 View Post

If you want to get the best 3D experience with the W7000, go get the Panasonic DMP-BDT500. I was hyped about the Sony DBP-S790 because it has the 4K up conversion. However, that feature is useless for my setup. The 2D picture quality for both of these players are excellence. However, when watching 3D movies on the S790, the image appeared to be smeared or trailing when paired with the Z201 glasses. On the other hand, the Panny's BDT500 looks rich, silky smooth and more depth to the image on the screen. I returned the S790 and am very happy to keep the BDT500 as my primary 3D Blu ray player since I got it on Amazon for $250, same price as the Sony's but with a much higher-end audio chip as a bonus for my music collection.

Umm... I'm confused as to why the Blu-Ray player would have this large an effect on perceived smearing on the screen. The job of the Blu-Ray player is to just send the alternating left/right images, no?
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Originally Posted by sarangiman View Post

Umm... I'm confused as to why the Blu-Ray player would have this large an effect on perceived smearing on the screen. The job of the Blu-Ray player is to just send the alternating left/right images, no?
The artifacts of the 3D playback from the S790 looked like the effect what you would see on a 3D postcard/poster from one angle to another as the image changes. It happened when I watched Rio 3D and The Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs 3D. However, I didn't notice such artifacts in Toy Story 3D movies.
Edited by X-2001 - 7/20/12 at 3:01pm
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In about three days I'll be the owner of a new w7000, and I just received my 120" electric high contrast gray screen. From the specs and everyone's reviews I'm confident the brightness of this projector is more than enough for this screen. I only have about 8 1/2 feet throw distance so to achieve the whole 120" I plan on using using a 20 x 16" front surface bounce mirror on the back wall.

I bought some true depth DLP Link glasses, but once I received them it seems obvious they are just rebranded versions of the same glasses you see sold under many other names. I notice some color shift in my wd 82738 that I tested them with today, but not as bad as I thought I might. I can live with these for the time being, but does anyone have a recommended high quality DLP Link glasses for this projector, with hopefully a reliable store that has them in stock? When I was looking at DLP Link last, I went as far as purchasing some RealD original DLP Link Glasses before I discovered the MonsterVisions and sent those back. Unfortunately MonsterVisions don't work with this projector. Zd201's are not available anywhere as far as I can tell.

Anyways, I'm happy to join the thread and looking forward to the W7000. I'm moving to this from an Optoma HD20 and a white pull down screen which essentially amounted to horrible black levels and waves in the screen.
Edited by MikeArms24 - 7/20/12 at 6:19pm
post #1852 of 3788
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Originally Posted by dolphinc View Post

I noticed over the past week the price on the W7000 has gone up over $300 on many sites. I bought mine 2 weeks ago new for $1949 and now the same site has it for $2300 and several other site are also on the rise. Is there a shortage supply or is BenQ getting ready to announce a replacement?

I just bought mine from an amazon seller who said they can only offer the $1945 promo price on weekends. It looks like they have stock available on their website but no longer on Amazon. Either way, they are PCNation and they have excellent customer service. They held my projector and sold it to me for $1945 even when the only price you could find was +/- $2300 everywhere else.
post #1853 of 3788
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Originally Posted by MikeArms24 View Post

In about three days I'll be the owner of a new w7000, and I just received my 120" electric high contrast gray screen. From the specs and everyone's reviews I'm confident the brightness of this projector is more than enough for this screen. I only have about 8 1/2 feet throw distance so to achieve the whole 120" I plan on using using a 20 x 16" front surface bounce mirror on the back wall.
I bought some true depth DLP Link glasses, but once I received them it seems obvious they are just rebranded versions of the same glasses you see sold under many other names. I notice some color shift in my wd 82738 that I tested them with today, but not as bad as I thought I might. I can live with these for the time being, but does anyone have a recommended high quality DLP Link glasses for this projector, with hopefully a reliable store that has them in stock? When I was looking at DLP Link last, I went as far as purchasing some RealD original DLP Link Glasses before I discovered the MonsterVisions and sent those back. Unfortunately MonsterVisions don't work with this projector. Zd201's are not available anywhere as far as I can tell.
Anyways, I'm happy to join the thread and looking forward to the W7000. I'm moving to this from an Optoma HD20 and a white pull down screen which essentially amounted to horrible black levels and waves in the screen.

You can get the ZD 201's from Amazon UK.
post #1854 of 3788
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Originally Posted by MikeArms24 View Post

I just bought mine from an amazon seller who said they can only offer the $1945 promo price on weekends. It looks like they have stock available on their website but no longer on Amazon. Either way, they are PCNation and they have excellent customer service. They held my projector and sold it to me for $1945 even when the only price you could find was +/- $2300 everywhere else.

That's a strange policy. I bought mine directly from Amazon for the same price you paid. Great deal IMO.
post #1855 of 3788
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Originally Posted by dolphinc View Post

You can get the ZD 201's from Amazon UK.

Thanks Dolphinc, Sounds like it might be worth it. Not too bad after all, $110 shipped.
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Originally Posted by MikeArms24 View Post

Thanks Dolphinc, Sounds like it might be worth it. Not too bad after all, $110 shipped.

I have ordered several things from Amazon UK and the experiance has always been good. Takes a few days longer to receive, but sometimes the prices are lower than here in the states.
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I'm glad I got that deal on my w7000, it's the weekend again and it looks like the average price is still over $2300.
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Originally Posted by MikeArms24 View Post

I'm glad I got that deal on my w7000, it's the weekend again and it looks like the average price is still over $2300.

I noticed that to. I love this projector, image is stellar. I am glad I got it when I did because it's over $400 more than I pad and for some reason that makes the picture look even better. wink.gif
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www.expansys-usa.com is where I got my optoma zd201 3d glasses. Do come from UK though. I'm one not totally happy with them, though. Performance is very good. (Coraline was bad, but don't know why? Tin, Tin and Imax Hubble excellent), but if wear prescription glasses may not fit well. For me after half hour have pain because have pushed over regular glasses. If you don't wear prescription glasses, is all good.
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Originally Posted by wisccheese View Post

www.expansys-usa.com is where I got my optoma zd201 3d glasses. Do come from UK though. I'm one not totally happy with them, though. Performance is very good. (Coraline was bad, but don't know why? Tin, Tin and Imax Hubble excellent), but if wear prescription glasses may not fit well. For me after half hour have pain because have pushed over regular glasses. If you don't wear prescription glasses, is all good.

I wear glasses and I use the True Depth glasses and love them I have had zero issues when watching 3D.
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