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post #2521 of 3788
Thread Starter 
I haven't had any issues with the iris on my W7000. if there is an issue, BenQ support will help, they have good tech support.

DLP link glasses can lose their sync, it all depends on how big the screen is, seating distance, etc. I have 5 different pairs of DLP link glasses. I would say the glasses that kept the best sync overall were the True Depth 3D which are relatively inexpensive. I can walk well behind my seating and the glasses will stay synced @ 18-20 feet from my 142" 2.8HP.
post #2522 of 3788
anyone with a 1.2 or less gain screen watching 3D? do you use dynamic mode?
post #2523 of 3788
The Seymour Xd material is labeled as 1.2 but from tester reports it's closer to 1.0, or so they say. I've watched 4 3D movies so far on my 153" screen and just used the default 3D mode, what ever that is. Because my screen is big the 3D could use a few extra lumens but the image is watchable.

Once your used to the 3D, that usually takes me a few minutes, the effect and the picture is awesome, IMO. I don't see any ghosting or crosstalk, just a good clean picture with a very pleasing 3D effect.

Don't buy Ultra Clear glasses, they don't stay synced very well (as soon as you go from a dark scene to bright, they lose sync) and have a weird colour shift thing going on (cycles through a pinkish to a purple to green to yellow then loses sync). I bought True Depth glasses and they work great. I haven't lost sync with them yet and that includes turning my head (sometimes the head turn causes a bit of a colour shift flicker but it's over rather quickly and I haven't lost sync yet in the split second this effect happens). Still waiting for my Optima ZD201's.
Edited by Crabalocker - 11/10/12 at 12:05pm
post #2524 of 3788
Looking forward to true depth vs zd201 comparison. 153" that is an awesomely huge screen. I'm still wavering between 130 and 140.
post #2525 of 3788
Anyone able know if it is possible to force the W7000 from a 3D to a 2D image? Any if so any way to select the right or left image to be displayed?
post #2526 of 3788
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tallnick View Post

Looking forward to true depth vs zd201 comparison. 153" that is an awesomely huge screen. I'm still wavering between 130 and 140.

the primary difference between the true-depth and the ZD201's is the ability for the Optoma glasses to perfectly block the red flash signal (red tint) equally from both lenses. The True Depth's are a close second but the right eye lets just a hair of the red tint through. This isn't likely to be noticed unless swapping back and forth between glasses.

The True Depth's are better for those that wear glasses since they are larger.

@ CurtisHD - I don't recall seeing any settings to allow the projector to go from 3D to 2D with a 3D source. My 3D network player (Micca EP950) does allow this in the menu and can go back and forth between 3D and 2D.


edit: TrueDepth 3D is the upper left and the ZD201's are the lower right.

w7000v3-0.jpg
Edited by zombie10k - 11/10/12 at 3:05pm
post #2527 of 3788
Looks like the true depth glasses would be more immersive with their bigger lenses. Do you see the frame of the glasses when wearing the zd201's? I hate that.
post #2528 of 3788
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tallnick View Post

Looks like the true depth glasses would be more immersive with their bigger lenses. Do you see the frame of the glasses when wearing the zd201's? I hate that.

I would like if the 201's were larger but the size doesn't bother me since they perform so well. The True depth's are almost 1/2 the price and very good DLP link glasses. It's worth having at least 1 pair of the 201's.
post #2529 of 3788
I bought the cheap Sainsonic dlp link glasses on amazon and they work great, rechargable and the price is right.
post #2530 of 3788
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Originally Posted by curtishd View Post

I bought the cheap Sainsonic dlp link glasses on amazon and they work great, rechargable and the price is right.
cool. anyone else tried these? I have to ship mine to new zealand so the cheaper the better. but definitely don't want them losing sync or screwing with the picture quality.
post #2531 of 3788
I recently had the chance to try the True Depth glasses after calibrating an Optoma HD33 and they worked really well, my eyes are usually distracted by the bulkier glasses but these were less bothersome for me (yet I have no idea why wink.gif).

Jason
post #2532 of 3788
What screen size are you w7000 owners using? 16:9 or 2.35:1?
And anyone with scope screens: anamorphic lens or manual zoom?
post #2533 of 3788
Anyone hear anything about the W7000+ ? Curious if it is an upgrade over the W7000.
post #2534 of 3788
I have October 2012 build with 1.0 firmware.
Don't use 3D. Any update after 1.0 that will help or hurt 2D?
post #2535 of 3788
Thread Starter 
that's odd to have such a late build with the original firmware. Does it say 1.0 or 1.03?
post #2536 of 3788
Thought it was odd too. October of this year with 1.0.
Contacted Benq and they said updates were for 3D and for a certain DVD player.
What about the black level or iris issue??
post #2537 of 3788
Thread Starter 
the 1.0 -> 1.03 update fixes the 1:1 pixel mapping issue in 2D and 3D, it's a must have update IMO. If you call their support, they will arrange for the return and flashing of the firmware.
post #2538 of 3788
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Originally Posted by ondaedg View Post

Anyone hear anything about the W7000+ ? Curious if it is an upgrade over the W7000.

According to BenQ's own website, using their comparison tool, they are identical. Must be some regional thing, or the "plus" model must have something extra in the box (but the BenQ website doesn't indicate this is so).

You can select and compare them both here:

http://www.benq.com/product/projector/35/262

I figured it would say the + came with glasses or something...but uh...it doesn't. Total mystery.
post #2539 of 3788
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

the 1.0 -> 1.03 update fixes the 1:1 pixel mapping issue in 2D and 3D, it's a must have update IMO. If you call their support, they will arrange for the return and flashing of the firmware.

Talked to higher tech about the firmware.
He said that there are two sold. Current builds (October) will have 1.0.
Earlier builds will have the revised version 1.03
Sounds like they changed some hardware to work with the original firmware.
I know you are in touch with a Benq engineer.
If you can get in touch to confirm that would be great!
You can pm me his number or email if you don't have time.
Thanks!.
post #2540 of 3788
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Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

Talked to higher tech about the firmware.
He said that there are two sold. Current builds (October) will have 1.0.
Earlier builds will have the revised version 1.03
Sounds like they changed some hardware to work with the original firmware.
I know you are in touch with a Benq engineer.
If you can get in touch to confirm that would be great!
You can pm me his number or email if you don't have time.
Thanks!.

definitely let me know if this is true, as I am going to order one soon most likely.
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I just hooked ours up today (bought in July of 2012). It has firmware 1.03 but it squeaks everytime it changes the iris in dynamic black mode. I recall some were complaining about this before the whole firmware debacle.

I also couldn't get it to recognize the motorola comcast cable box we have on HDMI1 (it recognized the denon blu-ray on hdmi2 after I played around with the connector a bit). I'm gonna swap out the cable box tomorrow, hopefully that fixes it.

What I'm wondering is I know many others have the iris issue, but did anyone else have an issue with it recognizing their cable box?

EDIT: nevermind, the cablebox was broken. Swapped it out today and the new one works as it should.
Edited by Ou8thisSN - 11/14/12 at 7:51pm
post #2542 of 3788
I did confirm through another Benq tech that there are two builds with two firmware. Current builds will have 1.00 firmware. Earlier builds should have the 1.03 firmware to fix the mapping issue.
post #2543 of 3788
i got my W7000 back in May. in july, i experienced my first iris failure. i had that unit replaced. i then had to have that one replaced for the same issue. now that replacement is experiencing the same damned thing. i'll be contacting BenQ for another replacement. i'm just curious if anyone else has had this much trouble with theirs or if it's just me. i really really really like the projector, but this will be my 4th unit in 7 months. that seems a bit ridiculous imho.
post #2544 of 3788
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Originally Posted by flyingmunkey View Post

i got my W7000 back in May. in july, i experienced my first iris failure. i had that unit replaced. i then had to have that one replaced for the same issue. now that replacement is experiencing the same damned thing. i'll be contacting BenQ for another replacement. i'm just curious if anyone else has had this much trouble with theirs or if it's just me. i really really really like the projector, but this will be my 4th unit in 7 months. that seems a bit ridiculous imho.

what does it mean/happens when the iris fails? no picture?
post #2545 of 3788
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Originally Posted by Ou8thisSN View Post

what does it mean/happens when the iris fails? no picture?

pretty much no picture. the iris will snap almost completely shut, and you can barely make out an image if your room is dark enough. it'll just snap shut, and i can change inputs and it'll go back to normal. fun times!
post #2546 of 3788
were there any symptoms prior to this happening? On mine, I've noticed 'abrupt' changes in the black levels as the iris changes throughout a movie. I dont even know if that's normal for these projectors with dynamic black levels or not.
post #2547 of 3788
Hi Zombie10k,

Great reviews so far, out of the Epson and BenQ w7000 which one do you like better?. My needs are primarily movies and am going to be getting a large screen 135" to 153" soon too. I do like the sharpness of the w7000 but is there "much" of a difference between black levels between the Epson or BenQ?. That is really the only thing holding me back from getting the BenQ. Im not after JVC blacks but relatively close I guess...but would I notice a big difference on a 153" screen?. JVC and Sony are out of my price range unfortauntely frown.gif

Cheers,
Kevin
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Originally Posted by buddhamus View Post

Hi Zombie10k,
Great reviews so far, out of the Epson and BenQ w7000 which one do you like better?. My needs are primarily movies and am going to be getting a large screen 135" to 153" soon too. I do like the sharpness of the w7000 but is there "much" of a difference between black levels between the Epson or BenQ?. That is really the only thing holding me back from getting the BenQ. Im not after JVC blacks but relatively close I guess...but would I notice a big difference on a 153" screen?. JVC and Sony are out of my price range unfortauntely frown.gif
Cheers,
Kevin

I'm no Zombie but I do own the W7000, 8500Ub and 8350, all lighting up a 153" screen (16x9). What model Epson were you looking at? There is a noticeable difference in blacks when comparing the 8350 and the W7000, which have similar blacks, to the 8500Ub.

I am a little RBE sensitive and find watching a 2+ hour movie tiring on the eyes. I use my 8500Ub for movies. Because of the pixel spacing you can get the screen door effect (SDE) but I don't notice because I sit 15' back from my screen. Deep blacks, to me, are more important than the sweet look of a DLP. I love the look of the skin tones and overall colour of the W7000. It's not that the Epsons look bad or anything it's just the DLP looking ..well...DLP.

The 5020 will produce noticeably deeper blacks than the 3020 and W7000. I'll post a few photos showing the difference with my set up. When watching a letter boxed movie, the black bars have a bit of a grey glow when watching the W7000 and 8350 but pretty much disappears while watching on my 8500Ub (5020 should produce the same effect although it is much brighter than my 8500Ub so the black bars might be more noticeable???). If watching in ambient light the blacks all appear to look similar and the advantage going to the W7000 because of its brightness (in best mode). In a completely dark to a really dimmed environment, the deeper blacks of the 8500Ub really shine, IMO.

W7000


8500Ub




W7000 (notice the black...I mean grey bars)


8500Ub (the deeper blacks gives the image more PoP, IMO)




W7000


8500Ub


Hope this helps a little.
Edited by Crabalocker - 11/15/12 at 9:37am
post #2549 of 3788
I seriously need those blacks now, what's the 3D crosstalk like on the 8500UB (is that the TW6000 in Australia?)
post #2550 of 3788
Not sure. The 8500Ub is 2 model years(soon to be 3) previous in the UB line. 8500Ub, 8700Ub, 5010 and soon to be 5020Ub.

It looks like it's probably the TW8100 line???? what ever that was 2 generations ago. So no 3D on my 8500Ub but believe the newest generation model is supposed to be pretty good.

Note: the photos are the same exposure time so the W7000 might be a tad overexposed and the 8500Ub underexposed due to the difference in brightness between the 2 projectors. I'm by no means a professional photographer but the images give you a basic idea of the black level differences between the projectors.
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