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post #2551 of 3452
Not sure. The 8500Ub is 2 model years(soon to be 3) previous in the UB line. 8500Ub, 8700Ub, 5010 and soon to be 5020Ub.

It looks like it's probably the TW8100 line???? what ever that was 2 generations ago. So no 3D on my 8500Ub but believe the newest generation model is supposed to be pretty good.

Note: the photos are the same exposure time so the W7000 might be a tad overexposed and the 8500Ub underexposed due to the difference in brightness between the 2 projectors. I'm by no means a professional photographer but the images give you a basic idea of the black level differences between the projectors.
post #2552 of 3452
For 2D there will be a noticeable difference easily seen, even in a none bat-cave environment. Even more so if you move to a JVC. The difference is HUGE for movie watchers!
post #2553 of 3452
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Originally Posted by mishari84 View Post

For 2D movies, is the difference really big to warrant to change W7000 to an Epson model ? I still see many people like Zombie still like 2D of W7000, although he has had many Epson and Sony models

IIRC, the accolades given the w7000 by zombie are for 3d due to the lack of ghosting and flicker, and for 2D for motion, sports, etc... basically praising it for being a good DLP projector. I do not think I've heard him praising the w7000 for black levels... there is a reason he has a dual PJ setup (JVC for darker, non-3D content). Also keep in mind many people run the w7000 with a neutral density filter to knock down the brightness (and black level) a bit... less of a need to do so with a 142" screen wink.gif
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dougri View Post

IIRC, the accolades given the w7000 by zombie are for 3d due to the lack of ghosting and flicker, and for 2D for motion, sports, etc... basically praising it for being a good DLP projector. I do not think I've heard him praising the w7000 for black levels... there is a reason he has a dual PJ setup (JVC for darker, non-3D content). Also keep in mind many people run the w7000 with a neutral density filter to knock down the brightness (and black level) a bit... less of a need to do so with a 142" screen wink.gif

correct, those are the major strengths of the W7000. With darker movies, the Epson or JVC is going to look better. In mixed contrast, HDTV and sports, it's harder to tell because it's bright @ 1500 lumens and has the DLP sharpness and that attracts one's attention.

I still have my W7000, it's not going anywhere just yet. cool.gif
post #2555 of 3452
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

correct, those are the major strengths of the W7000. With darker movies, the Epson or JVC is going to look better. In mixed contrast, HDTV and sports, it's harder to tell because it's bright @ 1500 lumens and has the DLP sharpness and that attracts one's attention.
I still have my W7000, it's not going anywhere just yet. cool.gif

Just yet? Haha, I'm thinking about putting mines up for sale. Still debating, such a good projector. About 3-4 weeks my new toy should be here
post #2556 of 3452
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Originally Posted by Crabalocker View Post

I'm no Zombie but I do own the W7000, 8500Ub and 8350, all lighting up a 153" screen (16:9)
How well does the w7000 do in 3D with such a large screen? What gain is your screen? Wondering if a 1.2 gain 140-150" screen will be too big for good 3D brightness with the w7000.
post #2557 of 3452
tallnick,

It could use more brightness being such a large screen but is watchable. The 3D, once used to it, is fantastic in my opinion. It's a Seymour XD screen rated at 1.2 but think it's really closer to 1.0.
post #2558 of 3452
The only 3D I've ever seen is in the horrible theatres here in NZ. How does the BenQ on your huge screen compare to 3D in your average US theater? Brighter? Sharper from edge to edge? Etc
post #2559 of 3452
Just went to our local store...compared the w7000 to the Epson 9000. Both looked great but I thought the w7000 looked much better the pop and sharpness of the movies just sucked me in. Epson did have slightly better blacks...but not a massive difference really and didnt like that it wasnt as sharp as the w7000. Im not sensitive to RBE so lucky for me lol.

Cheers guys!
post #2560 of 3452
tallnick,

Hard to say unless you had the ability to watch back to back. I don't have measuring tools, only my eyes. The last movie I saw in 3D at the theaters was Spiderman...so it's been a while.

Brightness is a strange beast because our eyes can adjust very quickly and efficiently to different light situations. If I were to watch the same 3D movie on a high gain screen it will probably be a total different experience than what I'm seeing on my 1.2 gain screen. That being said, once your eyes adjust to the 3D and the brightness level, it appears to be watchable/acceptable, to me. I know this doesn't help much with your trying to understand, your assessment of acceptability but it's all I have. I'm not sure how to type my thoughts properly. Would 3D look better on a high gain screen/more brightness? Yes. But to me, in my current situation (not having a high gain screen to compare), 3D is a total different experience than 2D, I can live with or deal with the fact that the image is not as bright as a 2D movie. The trade off is watching on a 153" screen as apposed to a 120" screen.....cinematically different. (I know cinematically is not a word....I think?)

The picture looks sharp, clean, with no apparent ghosting or cross-talk. It's really hard to figure out peoples expectation levels. If you keep your expectations low, you might be impressed. If your expectations are really high, well...you know.

All I can say is that I like what I'm looking at and I'm happy that the W7000 is part of my 2 projector setup.

Sorry I can't be more help.
Edited by Crabalocker - 11/16/12 at 12:30am
post #2561 of 3452
Crabalocker, that's a great help. Thanks. What throw distance are you at?
Edited by tallnick - 11/16/12 at 2:43am
post #2562 of 3452
I have the projector around 18 feet from my screen, the closest I could get it.
post #2563 of 3452
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Originally Posted by Crabalocker View Post

I have the projector around 18 feet from my screen, the closest I could get it.

So no problems having the w7000 at max zoom?
post #2564 of 3452
What sort of problems are you referring too?
post #2565 of 3452
hi guys, easy question: I am ordering the W7000 and trying to pick out a mount. Any suggestions?

I don't need to adjust or move it once installed. I have a flat ceiling, but have to drop it below my fan (18 a 20"). I've had good experience with Monoprice, so I was looking at http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10911&cs_id=1091102&p_id=3010&seq=1&format=2.

Anyone have any experience or suggest an alternative? I don't mind spending a bit more if it adds anything more than saving 15 min on the install.

Thoughts?
post #2566 of 3452
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Originally Posted by Crabalocker View Post

What sort of problems are you referring too?

sharpness uniformity from center to edges? focus from center to edges? anything at all.
post #2567 of 3452
Not that I picked up on. It seems pretty good to me but I never really checked using any tools. Maybe I'll throw in my Disney WoW disc and try and confirm with my eye.
post #2568 of 3452
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Originally Posted by Crabalocker View Post

Not that I picked up on. It seems pretty good to me but I never really checked using any tools. Maybe I'll throw in my Disney WoW disc and try and confirm with my eye.

If you can't notice it then there's no reason to check!
post #2569 of 3452
Because of my laziness, lately I have taken the ND filter off and turned down the brightness to achieve better blacks, seems to be working for me.
post #2570 of 3452
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Originally Posted by Mizelhike View Post

hi guys, easy question: I am ordering the W7000 and trying to pick out a mount. Any suggestions?
I don't need to adjust or move it once installed. I have a flat ceiling, but have to drop it below my fan (18 a 20"). I've had good experience with Monoprice, so I was looking at http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10911&cs_id=1091102&p_id=3010&seq=1&format=2.
Anyone have any experience or suggest an alternative? I don't mind spending a bit more if it adds anything more than saving 15 min on the install.
Thoughts?

Do most people not ceiling mount their W7000? There doesn't seem to be much info on mounts. Is the Monoprice no good?

Sorry to quote myself smile.gif, I'm just all ready to order and want to make sure there is a mount that will work with the W7000, thoughts?

Thanks!
post #2571 of 3452
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Originally Posted by j2037 View Post

Because of my laziness, lately I have taken the ND filter off and turned down the brightness to achieve better blacks, seems to be working for me.

eco-mode? or is there a manual brightness control? that'd be awesome.
post #2572 of 3452
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Originally Posted by Mizelhike View Post

Do most people not ceiling mount their W7000? There doesn't seem to be much info on mounts. Is the Monoprice no good?
Sorry to quote myself smile.gif, I'm just all ready to order and want to make sure there is a mount that will work with the W7000, thoughts?
Thanks!
I'm interested in this too, mate. if I find anything out here in nz I'll let you know. otherwise let me know what ends up working for you.
post #2573 of 3452
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Originally Posted by Mizelhike View Post


Do most people not ceiling mount their W7000? There doesn't seem to be much info on mounts. Is the Monoprice no good?
Sorry to quote myself smile.gif, I'm just all ready to order and want to make sure there is a mount that will work with the W7000, thoughts?
Thanks!

well, i used a chief mount..link below from amazon. not cheap but VERY sturdy.. now i'm mounting directly attached to the ceiling as i wanted minimum drop.. this mount does support a drop pole but thats an extra part you'll need to order. anyway i'm very happy with it, as i said its rock solid (probably overkill).

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BVOP6I/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

post #2574 of 3452
Hey 7000 owners, is there some sort of manual iris control in the service menu on this projector to tame brightness even further? I know the 6000 had an option like this from reports, and am wondering if the 7000 has this as well? If someone could check, I would greatly appreciate it! smile.gif
post #2575 of 3452
Thread Starter 
I just found the post with the service menu, i'll check it out next time I fire up the W7000.

secret service menu: 1) press "menu". 2) go to info tab. 3) press up-down, up-down, up-down (with arrows on the remote control) 4) press "enter"
post #2576 of 3452
Can someone post the brightness and contrast setting for 3D please? I calibrated 2D with Disney WoW, but doesnt work with 3D. 3D is dim and increasing contrast fixed it, but I dont want to go too high.
thanks
post #2577 of 3452
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

I just found the post with the service menu, i'll check it out next time I fire up the W7000.
secret service menu: 1) press "menu". 2) go to info tab. 3) press up-down, up-down, up-down (with arrows on the remote control) 4) press "enter"

Thanks Zombie, sounds good.
post #2578 of 3452
This is the same mount I use for both my Epsons and the W7000. http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1460233&Sku=S306-3008

I used a hack saw to cut the pipe to length and cut a piece of plywood to attach the mount to then attached the plywood to my ceiling using 6 lag screws into the joists, then painted the plywood white to match, well camouflage the plywood to the ceiling. Not ideal but works for me.
post #2579 of 3452
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Originally Posted by Mizelhike View Post

Do most people not ceiling mount their W7000? There doesn't seem to be much info on mounts. Is the Monoprice no good?
Sorry to quote myself smile.gif, I'm just all ready to order and want to make sure there is a mount that will work with the W7000, thoughts?
Thanks!

I use a chief rpa mount that I used to use with my now replaced Benq 8710 from 2003. I had to get the chief slbu plate because the mounting screws on the benq 7000 are so randomly placed. I love the chief mount, it is very simple to mount and dismount and offers a lot of flexibility in all 3 axes, which you need when its mounted.

I ordered a plasma screen articulating mounting bracket from monoprice and it wasnt as 'level' through all degrees of movement, so I cannot recommend monoprice mounts. Im very happy with the chief. You'd probably need the RPAU mount.

http://www.amazon.com/Chief-RPA-U-Inverted-Ceiling-Mount/dp/B000BVOP6I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353278434&sr=8-1&keywords=rpau
post #2580 of 3452
Thanks guys. I am going to go with the Mustang mount. The chief mount would be well over $300 by the time I got the extension, which is a bit steep for me.

I am planning 2 lag bolts directly into the joist and two heavy anchors in the drywall. Seems like more than enough for 25 lbs, but if anyone has tried this without success, please let me know.

Ok, off to research DLP Link glasses. Appreciate the feedback! biggrin.gif
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