Official BenQ W7000 Owners Thread - Page 102

Originally Posted by zombie10k 

Tom, that's good news about getting a quality sample. You can charge the glasses for about 1-2 hours for a quick charge that will get you through your first 3D movie.

benQ released a new pair of DLP link glasses i'm going to try when they are available.

http://www.benq.us/product/projector/3dglasses-d3/

Originally Posted by bcarithers 

Hey Tom,

The PS3 USB ports work fine with the chargers. I would also guess any USB port would also work

Originally Posted by bcarithers 

+1 to Zombie's post...I also am using the TrueDepth and just charged them for about an hour before watching Avatar 3D....the glasses work great! Even my wife was blown away!!!
Just a note on the glasses....if the 3D looks blurry, just click the ON button and that will 'reverse' the lenses...this is also in the instructions that I did not read since I was too excited to watch 3D!!!

I am still wanting to get more colors out of the 3D picture behind the glasses....anyone have any tips on getting a great 3D picture with glasses on?

Originally Posted by mcvaz79 

I just got a nd4 filter and the quality image on a 100" screen with 1.3 gain is great. The "blacks" are improved and I'm very pleased.

Originally Posted by Toe 

Just curious, but why not just tweak the iris in the service menu instead of messing with the filter?

Originally Posted by Tom Monahan 

I noticed on some 3d movies that I' can't adjust color. Since red and green are over saturated, I turned the color down for 2D and it looks much better. The 3d movies that can't be adjusted are annoying

I was surprised to see that the 3d depth is a fair amount less than my 42" LG LED. Enough so I don't get that wow feeling that the LG gives. Is there any adjustment that can be made to increase depth. I have an OPPO 3D player. I checked out Despicable and Tangled. I couldnt adjust color on either of them.

The True Depth glasses have a buzzing sound. It's not there all of the time but is annoying. Any idea why this is?

So far, I must say that 3D on the benq 7000 is a bit of a disappointment:(

Tom

Originally Posted by michaelscott73 

Toe, can you provide some insight on how to better the blacks in the service menu iris settings.
thanks

Originally Posted by Tom Monahan 

I noticed on some 3d movies that I' can't adjust color. Since red and green are over saturated, I turned the color down for 2D and it looks much better. The 3d movies that can't be adjusted are annoying

I was surprised to see that the 3d depth is a fair amount less than my 42" LG LED. Enough so I don't get that wow feeling that the LG gives. Is there any adjustment that can be made to increase depth. I have an OPPO 3D player. I checked out Despicable and Tangled. I couldnt adjust color on either of them.

The True Depth glasses have a buzzing sound. It's not there all of the time but is annoying. Any idea why this is?

So far, I must say that 3D on the benq 7000 is a bit of a disappointment:(

Tom

Originally Posted by Joseph Clark 

I think what you guys are experiencing with the perceived depth difference between the two types of displays is caused by the screen size and seating distance. If you were able to back up far enough with the bigger screen, you'd probably have a similar experience, although I think the extra brightness of the smaller screen also contributes a bit. To test how this works, freeze a shot and move around the screens. You'll see that your perception of what you're seeing changes depending on the angle and the distance. The only way to see what the 3D camera saw is to sit in the "sweet spot" or use an HMD (head mounted display), which should give you the experience of seeing just what the 3D camera saw.

Originally Posted by Toe 

Makes sense and I think you are right. But it still does not explain why the 7000 in my setup with all other variables the same (seating distance, screen size, etc....) is noticeably more impressive subjectively vs either of my JVC projectors for both depth and pop and the only thing I can think of is the ghosting, flicker and motion is so much better on the 7000 that it allows the positive attributes of 3d to show off more. Does this sound like a viable theory Joseph or am I crazy?

Originally Posted by Toe 

I am not an expert in this category, but my only thought was if you are using an ND4 filter to tame light and get better black levels, you could do the same thing in the service menu by dialing back the iris and then you would not need to deal with the PITA ND4 which I would want to remove for 3d to get max light. The practice of taking this filter on/off depending on if you are watching 2d or 3d would get old and I would think doing a quick tweak in the service menu depending on 2d or 3d would be much easier (takes all of ~20 seconds once you know what to do and where exactly to go). For 2d, I dialed back from the default position of 12 to 6 which brought the overall light level in line with my RS45 (which was my goal) and because you drop the overall light output, the black levels do improve (they are still far from great for 2d in particular, especially when compared to my RS45).

Maybe there is something I am missing though that makes using the ND4 worth the hassle?

Originally Posted by mcvaz79 

I tried to close down the iris on the service menu, but the problem is the whole image gets washed out and the colors get very dull. The second problem is that you lose the dynamic black feature, leaving the iris open to a value, that sometimes don't work very well for some scenes. Using a ND filter, definitely gives you darker blacks without washing out the colors, but like you said it's kind of a pain taking it out to watch 3d movies.

Originally Posted by bcarithers 

+1 to Zombie's post...I also am using the TrueDepth and just charged them for about an hour before watching Avatar 3D....the glasses work great! Even my wife was blown away!!!
Just a note on the glasses....if the 3D looks blurry, just click the ON button and that will 'reverse' the lenses...this is also in the instructions that I did not read since I was too excited to watch 3D!!!

I am still wanting to get more colors out of the 3D picture behind the glasses....anyone have any tips on getting a great 3D picture with glasses on?

Originally Posted by wisccheese 

Benq W7000 rated best of sub-12,000 dollar projectors for 3-D. Surprising worse than LG TV, but will say wide variation in 3-D quality. Hugo, I own, is incredible, similar to looking out a window so seems like you are standing there watching the action unfold. For special effects, Journey: Mysterious Island is eye-popping (though goofy movie) with effects coming out and slapping you in the face. Have heard Tangled (though good movie) is not that special for 3-D. Do know bigboys (Zombie, et. al) here use Despicable as test for 3-D. I haven't seen it in 3-D.

True Depth, good, but not as clear as twice expensive Optoma Zd201. But True Depth much more comfortable for lens wearer like me. I have trouble going more than an hour before Zd201's are painful.
Should not have buzzing on True Depth; I have never heard that and don't think anybody here has mentioned it.

Originally Posted by Toe 

Hey Tom, I spent quite a bit of time with a VT50 65" Panny plasma recently and noticed that both depth and pop on some scenes/titles looked a bit different vs my RS45 and 7000 while some things subjectively looked the same. There were some titles where the depth on the plasma actually seemed a bit more pronounced vs what I have seen on my RS40,45 and 7000. On the other hand, pop out like the Potato Cod in UtS, the crab/snake that come out in Sammys Adventure come out of the screen significantly more on my 7000/40/45. The crab in SA I can literally pause that scene at the apex and put my finger up through the crabs claws in my normal seating position, but on the plasma the crab only appeared to be about half way into the room approx and was not close enough to perform this same exercise. Why this is, I dont know but I did notice this and I am guessing just might be due to the difference in screen size (?). Maybe If I got the plasma in the same room as the projectors things would change, who knows. I will say that the 7000 is subjectively more impressive with both depth AND pop out vs either my RS40 or RS45 and again, not exactly sure why. My only thought is maybe due to the COMPLETE lack of both ghosting and flicker it allows the positive attributes as far as depth and pop to be more obvious. Not to mention motion is noticeably better vs the 45 for 3d (with FI engaged) which I am sure helps as well.

Originally Posted by Joseph Clark 

I think what you guys are experiencing with the perceived depth difference between the two types of displays is caused by the screen size and seating distance. If you were able to back up far enough with the bigger screen, you'd probably have a similar experience, although I think the extra brightness of the smaller screen also contributes a bit. To test how this works, freeze a shot and move around the screens. You'll see that your perception of what you're seeing changes depending on the angle and the distance. The only way to see what the 3D camera saw is to sit in the "sweet spot" or use an HMD (head mounted display), which should give you the experience of seeing just what the 3D camera saw.

Originally Posted by Joseph Clark 

I think what you guys are experiencing with the perceived depth difference between the two types of displays is caused by the screen size and seating distance. If you were able to back up far enough with the bigger screen, you'd probably have a similar experience, although I think the extra brightness of the smaller screen also contributes a bit. To test how this works, freeze a shot and move around the screens. You'll see that your perception of what you're seeing changes depending on the angle and the distance. The only way to see what the 3D camera saw is to sit in the "sweet spot" or use an HMD (head mounted display), which should give you the experience of seeing just what the 3D camera saw.

Originally Posted by Tom Monahan 

I can now see why so many of you have a HP screen. At least for me, I like more light output when watching 3D versus watching the same movie in 2d.

Tom